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The climbing bit? I like it when he sort of strolls nonchalantly along, and standing on top of the lift, but it's not a big standout for me.
Yep. Hard to believe they weren t real.
Not one scene in TWINE is better than anything in Thunderball. Thunderball is a masterpiece, TWINE is a below par Bond film IMO.
I have always contended that Jaws' appearance in the alley is one of the creepiest, most suspenseful scenes in the series, mostly because Gilbert decided to forego soundtrack music and just let the natural sounds play out. It was a master stroke . And I am always asking, "Why is this scene in this film!" LOL
I've always loved that whole sequence, including how you can spot Jaws tracking them throughout the crowd before they get to the alleyway. It's like an even more creepy version of Black Orpheus.
Yes that is when the film becomes lame. The best parts are obviously in Vegas.
With DAF, one can't expect a coherent, compelling ending. It's par for course. If there is a Bond film that we can conclude was written and made under the influence of the mighty herb, it's DAF. LOL
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There is just something about this film that annoys me and I can never quite put my finger on it.
It can't be the silliness because I like the most silly of the series, MR.
It can't be the missed opportunity of a revenge follow up to OHMSS because the series is full of missed opportunities.
I don't find the action set pieces particularly thrilling, especially the oil rig. The best bit is the alley way stunt and even that is ruined for no good reason. (There were crowds everywhere for crying out loud)
I don't like Tiffany case or the lazy edit that renders Plenty's death nonsensical.
The whole film feels dirty and grubby and un-Bond like. It has the worst Letter, yep even worse than John Terry.
I could go on and on.
But they are very different: one sticks to the formula (but in a perfect way: I love GE), while SF is far away from the bond formula (imo). SF is so beautifully to watch that it couldn't be at the bottom even without any score/dialogue. I prefer GE, though.
Made that look like it was your opinion there!
I dunno, I actually laughed at that. And the cruise ship ending does look very studio-bound and cheap, although it is quite nice to have a little epilogue like that in one of these.
Never thought of that, but yeah, Sam Bond was such a fantastic Moneypenny IMO, and for that to be her last scene was truly a disservice as you put it.
Bit of an overreaction! It was a gag and it made me laugh: it did its job.
Mr Wint showing pleasure because Bond is putting something near his bum has never made me laugh, quite the opposite to be honest.
That post made me laugh! Remembering the DAF ending. It’s light hearted. But naturally deemed offensive nowadays.
The last thing Bernard Lee's M does is watch Roger shagging a lady in a space shuttle. You can't really worry more about the characters being respectfully treated in Bond than enjoying the gags: it's all silly stuff.
Because it's crass, yeah. I'm sure many people found it offensive at the time too. 'Ho ho he's a homo so he likes stuff in his bum'- that's a crap joke no matter how you look at it. I think Bond films are very rarely dated by anything (I don't care about flares or sideburns or old cars) but that's a big one.
But yeah, 'it's PC gone mad etc.' Yawn.
I'd put Goldfinger with those two as well. Hugely popular Bond titles among massive audiences, but has a loud subset of Bond fans who don't understand the appeal/hype and sort of rail against it.
I think this is true for ANY film that is massively popular to have notable dissenters.
Reminds me of this clip from This is the End where Jay Baruchel admits he hates the movie Forrest Gump.
It just has the most studio shot feel out of all of the recent films, and even Q’s workshop has the feel of the dreadful 90’s BBC show “Bugs” with some strange primary coloured plastic device on the table behind. That scene is saved by Desmond and Pierce’s dialogue.
M’s office and the lighting, hair, costume and colour scheme are horrid, as are the naff black on black outfits of Sean Bean throughout, and why do they have to make all the Russian characters have at least 3 names?
I’ve worked with Russians for years, they don’t walk into a room and introduce themselves that way!
I also can’t help but feel sorry for Pierce, when it came to dire special effects ( the falling into the plane is on a par with the tsunami kite surf in DAD) . I can’t see past this in the PTS, or the Sevenyaya attack. Whilst Derek Meddings’ models and miniatures are superb, the explosions all have a whiff of Thunderbirds to it and the entire film is ruined by Eric Serra’s hideous soundtrack. The car chase music is a true nadir.
(For anyone who thinks differently, hear the OST Drive in St Petersburg and be very glad someone had the sense to employ an orchestra for the final cut!)
I am a sucker for escapism in this franchise and whilst some of the ham acting and dialogue in TND is some of the worst in the series, the look, the stunts, editing and set design all work together to give it a real sense of a globe trotting adventure.
The PTS is strong and entertaining, the Devonshire attack is threatening, the Germany party and news building escape and Saigon set pieces are well edited and suspenseful and the Gupta character has real menace. Robinson is decent as staff and Moneypenny is excellent. But the real thing that makes it so much more compelling than GE is how populated feel the film has.
I’ve always felt that the films work best when Bond is in a packed environment which either has to react to him, or he has to adapt to, as a spy should do.
There seems to be so few people and extras in any of the scenes and the locations only add to it feeling sparse and empty, including the entire St Petersburg sequences (which of course large amounts of were all done on set in Leavesden).
If you look at the entire film after the PTS, it’s nearly all scenes with a maximum of 6 people in each shot, compared with TND which has at least a stronger blend of dialogue taking place in a more populated environment, and makes it more relatable to the audience. Even the crew on the stealth ship look likes each of them has a role, and this works.
I think this helps make TND an easier watch for the neutrals from start to finish, and is a little similar to QOS, which I find improves after each viewing. The pace is fast, the locations and set pieces are strong, the villain is weak, but it’s quite good fun on the whole and if you’re not trying to follow the plot forensically it’s not bad.
Unlike GE. I thought it back in the cinema in 1995, and I haven’t changed my opinion since. It’s aged very badly!
I do agree about Meddings' models, incidentally- when John Richardson did modelwork you genuinely couldn't tell they were models. The crash of the toy aeroplane into the Severnaya dish shouldn't really have gone into the film.
It is funny watching it now and seeing stuff like modelwork and burned-in captions, which really do make it feel like an old film from the last century, even though in my head I sort of think of it as one of the 'new' ones too.