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Pre Titles - LTK (this was difficult. Both have superb PTSs)
Title Track - TLD
Title Credits - TLD
Main Adversary- LTK
Main Girl - LTK
Overall Plot - LTK
Dialogue - LTK
Score - TLD
Settings - TLD
Action - Tie (both have some of the best action in the series)
Humour - Tie (both have a sensible amount of humour)
Cinematography - TLD
Benign Bizarre - LTK
Suspense - LTK
Minor Characters - LTK
Glamour - TLD
Ally - LTK
9-6-2 to LTK. That seems about right.
PTS: TLD (Apart from the plane fishing stunt, LTK's is pretty average)
Title Track: LTK (The standard length version is one of my faves)
Title Credits: TLD (both generic, but TLD's is the least)
Main Adversary: LTK (I'm loyal to Sanchez)
Main Girl: LTK by a fair margin, although I still like Kara
Overall Plot: TLD (complex espionage over drug barons thank you very much)
Dialogue: TLD (very close one here)
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD (both are great for action)
Humour: LTK
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: LTK
Suspense: LTK
Minor Characters: LTK
Glamour: TLD (Opera, Vienna Ball (?) etc.)
Ally: TLD (LTK has Leiter/Sharkey as allies, but TLD has Shah/Saunders/Pushkin)
TLD: 10
LTK: 7
Wow- I expected the scores to be tighter, but it's no surprise TLD came out on top. What I like most about this pairing is that no matter what comes second, a Dalton film still wins ;)
PTS: TLD
Title Track: TLD
Title Credits: TLD
Main Adversary: LTK (by a mile)
Main Girl: LTK
Overall Plot: LTK
Dialogue: TLD
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: LTK
Humour: LTK
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: LTK
Suspense: LTK
Minor Characters: LTK
Glamour: TLD
Ally: LTK (when in doubt, go with Felix)
LTK takes it 9-8, which is fitting as it's only a spot or two above TLD on the ol' rankings.
Title Track: TLD
Title Credits: tie
Main Adversary: LTK
Main Girl: TLD
Overall Plot: LTK
Dialogue: LTK
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humour: TLD
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: LTK
Suspense: LTK
Minor Characters: LTK
Glamour: TLD
Ally: LTK
9-7-1 for The Living Daylights.
No, I was intending to wrap up Octopussy vs. You Only Live Twice today and post the new match.
Title Track: LTK
Title Credits: LTK
Main Adversary: LTK
Main Girl: Tie
Overall Plot: LTK
Dialogue: LTK
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: LTK
Humour: LTK
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: LTK
Suspense: LTK
Minor Characters: LTK
Glamour: TLD
Ally: Tie
LTK: 10
TLD: 5
Tie: 2
Still both are my in my top 5, LTK always will be the best in my opinion
PTS: TND
Title Track: TND (neither is particularly inspired, and I've even defended AWTD, but TND still gets the nod)
Title Credits: QoS
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: QoS
Overall Plot: TND (classic Bond vs. jumbled political mess)
Dialogue: QoS
Score: QoS
Settings: QoS (sure, let's go with that)
Action: QoS
Humor: TND (not much to go around in QoS)
Cinematography: TND (take that, shakycam!)
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: TND (Dr. Kaufman carries the day)
Glamour: TND
Ally: QoS
9-8 in favor of Tomorrow Never Dies!
Title Track: TND
Title Credits: QoS
Main Villain: QoS
Main Bond Girl: QoS
Overall Plot: QoS (Can't stand the TND plot at all.)
Dialogue: QoS (By far.)
Score: QoS
Settings: QoS (It's jam packed with Italy, what's not to love?)
Action: QoS
Humor: TND
Cinematography: TND
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: TND
Glamour: QoS
Ally: QoS
12-4, QoS.
PTS: TND
Title Track: TND
Title Credits: QoS
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: TND
Overall Plot: TND
Dialogue: QoS
Score: QoS
Settings: QoS
Action: TND
Humor: TND
Cinematography: TND
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: TND
Glamour: TND
Ally: QoS
11-6 in favour of Tomorrow Never Dies
Title Track: QOS (Another way to Die isn't that bad, I love it.)
Title Credits: QoS
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: TND
Overall Plot: TND
Dialogue: QoS
Score: TND
Settings: QoS
Action: TND
Humor: TND
Cinematography: TND
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: TND
Glamour: TND
Ally: QoS
TND-10
QOS-6
This thread is closed.
Please continue here for the new match up:
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/8571/tomorrow-never-dies-vs.-quantum-of-solace-by-the-elements/p15#Item_434
Title Track: QoS
Title Credits: QoS
Main Villain: QoS
Main Bond Girl: TND
Overall Plot: QoS
Dialogue: QoS
Score: QoS
Settings: QoS
Action: TND
Humor: TND
Cinematography: TND
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: QoS
Glamour: TND
Ally: QoS
QoS - 11
TND - 5
QoS is far ahead of TND in my personal ranking. Both arguably two of the most underrated entries, though I don't think TND is amazing myself.
Title Track: QoS
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: QoS
Main Bond Girl: QOS
Overall Plot: QoS
Dialogue: QoS
Score: TND
Settings: QoS
Action: QOS
Humor: TND
Cinematography: QOS
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: QoS
Glamour: TND
Ally: QoS
Life's tough when you're a Brosnan fan.
Title Track: TND
Title Credits: QOS
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: QOS
Overall Plot: QoS
Dialogue: QoS
Score: TND
Settings: QoS
Action: TND
Humor: TND
Cinematography: QOS
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: TND
Minor Characters: QoS
Glamour: TND
Ally: QoS
Tomorrow Never Dies holds on for a 9-8 victory.
Title Track: QoS
Title Credits: QoS
Main Villain: QoS
Main Bond Girl: QoS
Overall Plot: QoS
Dialogue: QoS
Score: TND
Settings: QoS
Action: QoS
Humor: TND
Cinematography: QoS
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: QoS
Glamour: QoS
Ally: QoS
PTS: TND (one of the absolute best, although QOS is pretty awesome too)
Title Track: TND (I don't 'dislike' AWTD, but it wasn't as Bondian)
Title Credits: TND (purely for the girl with the diamonds on her neck- but I quite like the QOS one. I think it gets an unfair wrap due to its relationship with the theme song)
Main Villain: tie (Carver's dramatic; Greene's a slimy little bastard, and that's what I like most about them)
Main Bond Girl: TND (tough one here as I like them both, but Wai Lin takes the prize because she could kick Bond's ass from here to China)
Overall Plot: QOS (I like its realistic plot, helping bring our universes together)
Dialogue: TND (probably not better, but more enjoyable)
Score: TND (saxophone intro for Hamburg, actually using the Bond theme...)
Settings: QOS (exotic and rich locations are definitely one of its strengths.)
Action: TND (QOS is great, but TND has more traditional Bondian action)
Humour: TND (different kind of humour; takes itself less seriously)
Cinematography: QOS (another one of QOS strengths)
Benign Bizarre: TND (Carver speaks of torturing genitals; Bond plays kiss kiss corpse corpse)
Suspense: QOS (Bond escaping M's goons; Camille's fight with Medrano)
Minor Characters: TND (Dr. Kaufmann is a great minor character)
Glamour: TND (Carver's party)
Ally: QOS (If Bond's hobby is resurrection, then bring Mathis back to life!)
TND: 11
QOS: 5
(1 tie)
I love both films almost equally, so it's a surprise TND wins two-fold.
Title Track: TND
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: TND
Overall Plot: TND
Dialogue: QOS
Score: QOS
Settings: QOS
Action: TND
Humor: QOS
Cinematography: QOS
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: TND (the Kaulfman scene edges it a bit)
Minor Characters: QOS
Glamour: QOS
Ally: QOS
9-8 to TND
Quantum is the stronger film in terms of acting and dialogue, but TND has more re-watch value for me. Both are in my lower tier though.
Title Track: TND
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: QOS
Overall Plot: QOS
Dialogue: QOS
Score: QOS
Settings: QOS
Action: QOS
Humor: QOS
Cinematography: QOS
Benign Bizarre: QOS
Suspense: QOS
Minor Characters: QOS
Glamour: QOS
Ally: QOS
14-3 QOS
Title Track: QOS (Yes, would you believe!)
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: QOS
Main Bond Girl: QOS
Overall Plot: QOS
Dialogue: QOS
Score: QOS
Settings: QOS
Action: TND
Humor: TND
Cinematography: QOS
Benign Bizarre: QOS
Suspense: QOS
Minor Characters: QOS
Glamour: QOS
Ally: QOS
QOS: 13
TND: 4
Title Track: TND (marginally, they're both crap)
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: QOS
Overall Plot: TND
Dialogue: QOS
Score: TND
Settings: QOS
Action: Tie (both have too much, but the action is still fairly good)
Humor: TND
Cinematography: QOS
Benign Bizarre: QOS
Suspense: QOS
Minor Characters: QOS
Glamour: QOS
Ally: QOS
QOS: 9
TND: 7
Tie: 1
Close, but they are far apart in my ranking (TND at #21 and QOS at #14).
Title Track: TND (Barely.)
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: QoS
Overall Plot: QoS (Close call.)
Dialogue: QoS
Score: QoS
Settings: TND
Action: QoS
Humor: TND
Cinematography: QoS
Benign Bizarre: QoS
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: TND
Glamour: QoS
Ally: QoS
QoS 11 TND 6
Title Track: Quantum of Solace
Title Credits: Quantum of Solace
Main Villain: Tomorrow Never Dies
Main Bond Girl: Tomorrow Never Dies
Overall Plot: Tomorrow Never Dies
Dialogue: Quantum of Solace
Score: Quantum of Solace
Settings: Tomorrow Never Dies
Action: Tomorrow Never Dies
Humor: Tomorrow Never Dies
Cinematography: Quantum of Solace
Benign Bizarre: Tomorrow Never Dies
Suspense: Quantum of Solace
Minor Characters: Tomorrow Never Dies
Glamour: Tomorrow Never Dies
Ally: Quantum of Solace
10-7 in favor of TND
Title Track: TND
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: TND
Main Bond Girl: TND
Overall Plot: TND
Dialogue: TND
Score: TND
Settings: TND
Action: TND
Humor: TND
Cinematography: TND
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: TND
Minor Characters: TND
Glamour: TND
Ally: QOS
16-1 In favour of TND, I have always ranked QOS as the worst of the Bond Films and TND is fairly middlish, I'd say about 13th, but it is still vastly superior to that fail of a Bourne movie.