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I disagree. Both are rooted in aesthetics and combine a certain requirement for technical proficiency. Just how subjective their appreciation is, is open to debate.
That's a pretty good observation. I like QOS reasonably well, but it is easily the most downbeat Bond film ever made, and I believe one should never leave a Bond film feeling like one has been horsewhipped for ca. two hours.
Title Track: QOS (AWTD isn't great, but I prefer it to Sheryl Crow any day.
Title Credits: QoS
Main Villain: TND ( Not a huge Carver fan, but miles ahead of Greene.)
Main Bond Girl: QOS (Olga, now if Teri Hatcher was the main Bond girl, may be a different story)
Overall Plot: TND (Kinda hard to follow the plot clearly in QOS, takes several several rewatches, and then I'm still not certain I got all of it.)
Dialogue: TND (Q, Brosnan, just that alone will win it)
Score: QoS
Settings: QoS
Action: QOS (very close, but prefer realism over clearly fake motorcycle and helicopter stunts)
Humor: TND (Was there humor in QOS?)
Cinematography: TND (Some godawful filming in some spots in QOS)
Benign Bizarre: TND
Suspense: QoS
Minor Characters: TND ( Dr. Kauffman, Stamper, FTW)
Glamour: TND
Ally: QoS (Mathis and Felix Leiter, clearly takes the icing on the cake I mentioned earlier)
9-8
Very, very close this one. Quantum of Solace takes it.
PTS: GF
Title Track: GF
Title Credits: GF (irrational love for the GF title sequence, despite its mediocrity)
Main Villain: GF (blow to the out)
Main Bond Girl: GF
Overall Plot: GF
Dialogue: GF
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: GF (close one)
Suspense: GF (laser table & bomb countdown)
Minor Characters: GF (o hai, Jill Masterson)
Glamour: GF (no movie featuring Afghanistan can win here. It's science.)
Ally: GF (battle of the basement Felixes! TLD gets a bump from Kamran Shah, though)
13-4 Goldfinger, for my biggest margin of victory yet.
PTS: GF (I really like TLD but you can't beat the early shots of Sean)
Title Track: GF (no comparison to the bland A-Ha)
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: GF
Overall Plot: GF
Dialogue: GF
Score: GF
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: GF
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: GF
Minor Characters: GF (again no comparison)
Glamour: GF
Ally: TLD (I like Pushkin)
14-3 Goldfinger
Title Track: TLD
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: GF
Overall Plot: GF
Dialogue: GF
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: TLD
Minor Characters: GF
Glamour: GF
Ally: TLD
9-8 Goldfinger wins
Title Track: TLD (A-ha's theme is my second favourite)
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF (no contest)
Main Bond Girl: GF (always been a fan of Pussy)
Overall Plot: GF (much less convulated)
Dialogue: GF ("no, I expect you to die!")
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: GF (both relatively uninspired)
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: GF
Minor Characters: TLD
Glamour: GF
Ally: TLD
Goldfinger: 10
The Living Daylights: 7
PTS: GF
Title Track: GF (Sorry, countrymen)
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: TLD
Overall Plot: GF
Dialogue: GF
Score: GF
Settings: GF
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: GF
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: TLD
Minor Characters: GF
Glamour: GF
Ally: GF
14-3 for GF. Not that TLD is bad, but GF is superb.
Title Track: GF
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: GF
Overall Plot: TLD
Dialogue: Tie
Score: GF
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: TLD
Minor Characters: GF
Glamour: GF
Ally: TLD
Goldfinger: 9
The Living Daylights: 7
Tie: 1
Title Track: TLD
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: GF
Overall Plot: TLD
Dialogue: GF
Score: TLD
Settings: GF
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: GF
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: GF
Minor Characters: TLD
Glamour: GF
Ally: TLD (I'm assuming the ally is Shah)
Goldfinger wins it 10-7
I am a fan of pussy too, but the Maryam pussy is much younger than the Honor pussy.
Title Track: TLD
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: TLD
Overall Plot: GF
Dialogue: GF
Score: TLD
Settings: GF
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: GF
Minor Characters: GF
Glamour: GF
Ally: GF
GF 11 TLD 6
Title Track: TLD
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: TLD
Overall Plot: TLD
Dialogue: GF
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: TLD
Minor Characters: TLD
Glamour: GF
Ally: TLD
TLD wins 11-6.
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Title Track: GF (TLD has an okay title track, but come on, GF is classic)
Title Credits: GF (Nothing special about TLD's; the golden girl in GF was kind of interesting)
Main Villain: GF (Wasn't a big fan of TLD's antagonist(s); Auric is classic and somewhat underrated, too)
Main Bond Girl: TLD (I like Pussy Galore, but Kara Milovy edges her out for me)
Overall Plot: GF (I always forget the plot of TLD, so I'll take the classic here again)
Dialogue: GF (This one could have gone to either, but I just find the character interaction to be more interesting in GF)
Score: GF (Close one again, but I have to give GF the edge here, as it's slightly more catchy for me)
Settings: TLD (Yet again a very close one, but I'll give the edge to TLD; there was a lot of variety there)
Action: TLD (This one's very tough, but I'll take TLD, just because the actual action sequences were typically better - especially the PTS, car chase, and finale. GF has some great action scenes too though)
Humor: GF (TLD has a few good moments of humor, but GF still deserves this point)
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: GF (I could see a case for either being made, but since GF gripped me more, I'll give it the point here)
Minor Characters: GF (Lots of memorable characters in GF, only a couple in TLD for me)
Glamour: GF (TLD wasn't very "glamorous" at all; GF is about gold, so yeah...)
Ally: GF (I like GF's Felix, despite what many others say)
GF - 13 TLD - 4
Goldfinger is just pure, classic Bond; as far as the quintessential Bond film goes, it can't be topped (some might argue for FRWL, but GF was the first to gather ALL the main elements together). The Living Daylights is a solid Bond film, but not legendary like GF IMO. I like both of these, but it's no surprise GF wins most categories for me.
Title Track: GF (But not by much. TLD is underrated here.)
Title Credits: GF (Binder phoned in much of his later work)
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: TLD (Pussy's sex appeal was modest while Kara's chemistry with Bond was excellent)
Overall Plot: GF (TLD is overly convoluted)
Dialogue: GF
Score: TLD (I rate TLD the 3rd best Bond score; GF is not far behind, though)
Settings: TLD (I like Kentucky in 1964, but the Afghan setting was marvelously realized)
Action: TLD (By a wide margin)
Humor: TLD (Neither is exactly a gut-buster supreme)
Cinematography: TLD (The Afghan section makes the difference)
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: TLD (GF should be more suspenseful than it is)
Minor Characters: TLD (I'm hard pressed to recall a memorable minor character for either)
Glamour: TLD (a tossup, but there was just something about Vienna, 1987)
Ally: TLD (Saunders is strong)
TLD: 11
GF: 6
PTS: TLD
Title Track: GF
Title Credits: GF
Main Villain: GF
Main Bond Girl: TLD
Overall Plot: TLD
Dialogue: GF
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: TLD
Humor: GF
Cinematography: TIE
Benign Bizarre: GF
Suspense: TLD
Minor Characters: TLD
Glamour: GF
Ally: TLD
Wow... TLD wins 9-7 with 1 tie.
Title Track: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Title Credits: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Main Villain: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Main Bond Girl: <i>The Living Daylights</i>
Overall Plot: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Dialogue: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Score: <b>Goldfinger</b> (barely)
Settings: <i>The Living Daylights</i>
Action: <i>The Living Daylights</i>
Humor: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Cinematography: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Benign Bizarre: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Suspense: <i>The Living Daylights</i>
Minor Characters: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Glamour: <b>Goldfinger</b>
Ally: <i>The Living Daylights</i>
12 - 5 in favor of Goldfinger. Looks like the "film beloved by the casuals" is actually more loved by me, the die hard. Both are great though.
Title Track: The Living Daylights
Title Credits: The Living Daylights
Main Villain: The Living Daylights
Main Bond Girl: The Living Daylights
Overall Plot: The Living Daylights
Dialogue: The Living Daylights
Score: The Living Daylights
Settings: The Living Daylights
Action: The Living Daylights
Humor: The Living Daylights
Cinematography: The Living Daylights
Benign Bizarre: The Living Daylights
Suspense: The Living Daylights
Minor Characters: The Living Daylights
Glamour: The Living Daylights
Ally: The Living Daylights
17 - 0 for The Living Daylights.
Well thats positiv....
no, I'm above that joke :p
:))
Wow. None of us saw that one coming...
Title Track: The Living Daylights. This is closer but GF is overplayed whereas this gets an incredible amount of flack.
Title Credits: The Living Daylights. This is Binder's best effort of the 80s and certainly better than Brownjohn's.
Main Villain: The Living Daylights. I did this by weighted average. Yes, I have Whitaker very low, but same goes to Goldfinger. Koskov, who I adore, balances things out in favour of TLD. Unfortunately, this is the only category where GF stood a chance.
Main Bond Girl: The Living Daylights
Overall Plot: The Living Daylights. GF's plot is terrible.
Dialogue: The Living Daylights
Score: The Living Daylights. One of Barry's holy trifecta (TB, OHMSS, TLD) against a score where he'd yet to come into his own. GF does still have a great soundtrack though, and I actually own the LP for it.
Settings: The Living Daylights. Six countries and three continents? Yes please!
Action: The Living Daylights. Ice chase and cargo net fight against the tedious Fort Knox standoff.
Humor: The Living Daylights. This was quite close, actually. I think Dalton manages the humour fine though, and the writing is better.
Cinematography: The Living Daylights. The action shots are perfect.
Benign Bizarre: The Living Daylights. Neither film really has it, but why give GF a point for no reason?
Suspense: The Living Daylights. Oh completely. All Goldfinger has is the laser table scene.
Minor Characters: The Living Daylights. Pushkin. Kamran Shah. Even the assassin in the PTS who never speaks a word is one of the most memorable characters in the series!
Glamour: The Living Daylights. What does Goldfinger really have other than a bunch of gold? I find TLD to be very exotic at times.
Ally: The Living Daylights. Oh god, Linder's Leiter is abysmal.
Clean sweep for The Living Daylights.
So on what basis do you give TLD the point instead if neither film has it? Makes no sense.
I figured at that point, the winning film might as well have the point. Besides, I find Whitaker's statues and Necros' personality slightly strange. I don't find anything in GF strange.