Live And Let Die vs Tomorrow Never Dies - By the Elements

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  • In categories, LALD defeats OP 10-7 with one tie. And in total points, LALD again wins, 124-108. Considering that I reckon LALD is rather underrated and I scarcely rate OP at all, I'm gratified by these results.

    Here are how the categories break down:

    PTS: 11-2 OP
    Title Track: 13-0 LALD
    Title Credits: 12-1 LALD
    Main Villain: 6-6 Tie
    Main Bond Girl: 9-3 LALD
    Overall Plot: 13-0 OP
    Dialogue: 12-1 LALD
    Score: 8-5 LALD
    Settings: 13-0 OP
    Action: 8-5 OP
    Humor: 9-4 LALD
    Cinematography: 13-0 OP
    Benign Bizarre: 13-0 LALD
    Suspense: 12-1 OP
    Minor Characters: 13-0 LALD
    Glamor: 13-0 OP
    Henchmen: 11-2 LALD
    Ally: 10-3 LALD
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    LALD is like a Bee Gees record: on the surface it seems quite tacky and gaudy, but upon closer look it really is a gem. Underrated indeed, including formerly from this Bond fan as well.
  • Here's a somewhat random comparison--but then I'm an aficionado of the random--YOLT versus QOS. I have no idea what to expect, and that should make it fun.

    PTS: YOLT
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: QOS
    Main Bond Girl: QOS
    Overall Plot: QOS
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: YOLT
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: YOLT
    Suspense: QOS
    Minor Characters: QOS
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: YOLT

    I don't actually hate QOS, and I certainly don't love YOLT, but you'd never know it by looking at my selections.
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    PTS: YOLT
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: YOLT
    Main Bond Girl: YOLT
    Overall Plot: YOLT
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: YOLT
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: YOLT
    Suspense: YOLT
    Minor Characters: YOLT
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: QOS (I do really like Tiger but Wright is great as Leiter and QOS needs to win one round at least)
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    PTS: YOLT
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: YOLT
    Main Bond Girl: YOLT
    Overall Plot: YOLT
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: YOLT
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: YOLT
    Suspense: YOLT
    Minor Characters: YOLT
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: YOLT

    A clean sweep for YOLT. QOS came close for Suspense but that's it.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    PTS: Quantum Of Solace
    Title Track: You Only Live Twice
    Title Credits: You Only Live Twice
    Main Villain: Quantum Of Solace
    Main Bond Girl: Quantum Of Solace
    Overall Plot: Quantum Of Solace
    Dialogue: You Only Live Twice
    Score: You Only Live Twice
    Settings: You Only Live Twice
    Action: You Only Live Twice
    Humor: You Only Live Twice
    Cinematography: You Only Live Twice
    Benign Bizarre: You Only Live Twice
    Suspense: Quantum Of Solace
    Minor Characters: Quantum Of Solace
    Glamor: You Only Live Twice
    Ally: You Only Live Twice
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    edited November 2013 Posts: 7,314
    PTS: QoS
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: YOLT
    Main Bond Girl: QoS
    Overall Plot: YOLT
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT (QoS is actually my favorite Arnold score but he can't beat the master)
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: QoS
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: YOLT
    Suspense: QoS
    Minor Characters: YOLT
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: YOLT

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    PTS: YOLT
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: YOLT
    Main Bond Girl: YOLT
    Overall Plot: YOLT
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: YOLT
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: YOLT
    Suspense: QOS
    Minor Characters: YOLT
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: YOLT

    This one was pretty easy
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    PTS: QoS
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: YOLT
    Main Bond Girl: QoS
    Overall Plot: YOLT
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: QoS
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: QoS
    Suspense: YOLT
    Minor Characters: QoS
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: YOLT
  • PTS - YOLT
    TT - YOLT (Nancy Sinatra against the awful Keys and White crap ?!)
    TC - YOLT
    MV - YOLT
    MBG - QOS
    OP - YOLT
    DIAL - QOS
    SCORE - YOLT
    SETT - YOLT
    ACTION - QOS
    HUMOR - YOLT
    CINEMA - YOLT
    BB - YOLT
    SUSPENSE - QOS
    MINOR - YOLT
    GLAM - QOS
    ALLY - YOLT

    YOLT wins it by 12 - 5
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    PTS: QoS
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: QoS
    Main Bond Girl: QoS
    Overall Plot: QoS
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: QoS
    Action: QoS
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: QoS
    Benign Bizarre: QoS
    Suspense: YOLT
    Minor Characters: QoS
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: QoS

    QoS, wins this. Although i rank YOLT quite high too!
  • edited November 2013 Posts: 6,396
    MrBond wrote:
    PTS: QoS
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: QoS
    Main Bond Girl: QoS
    Overall Plot: QoS
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: QoS
    Action: QoS
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: QoS
    Benign Bizarre: QoS
    Suspense: YOLT
    Minor Characters: QoS
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: QoS

    QoS, wins this. Although i rank YOLT quite high too!

    Oh my word! One of the greatest cinematographers of our time beaten by "Shaky Cam Man". Deary me.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    PTS: QoS
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: QoS controversial, I know
    Main Bond Girl: QoS
    Overall Plot: QoS
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: YOLT
    Humor: QoS
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: YOLT
    Suspense: QoS
    Minor Characters: QoS
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: QoS
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    MrBond wrote:
    PTS: QoS
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: QoS
    Main Bond Girl: QoS
    Overall Plot: QoS
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: QoS
    Action: QoS
    Humor: YOLT
    Cinematography: QoS
    Benign Bizarre: QoS
    Suspense: YOLT
    Minor Characters: QoS
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: QoS

    QoS, wins this. Although i rank YOLT quite high too!

    Oh my word! One of the greatest cinematographers of our time beaten by "Shaky Cam Man". Deary me.

    I just find QoS to have a good cinematography. It has a huge range of colours and it is just well shot. Granted, there's shaky cam. But i can live with that.
  • royale65 wrote:
    PTS: QoS
    Title Track: YOLT
    Title Credits: YOLT
    Main Villain: QoS controversial, I know
    Main Bond Girl: QoS
    Overall Plot: QoS
    Dialogue: YOLT
    Score: YOLT
    Settings: YOLT
    Action: YOLT
    Humor: QoS
    Cinematography: YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: YOLT
    Suspense: QoS
    Minor Characters: QoS
    Glamor: YOLT
    Ally: QoS

    Humor in QOS? But there's so little of it!

  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    @Perilagu_Khan - exactly!

    Seriously, what little humour QoS did have, it done it well.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    royale65 wrote:
    @Perilagu_Khan - exactly!

    Seriously, what little humour QoS did have, it done it well.

    It had subtle and dry humour which worked well in it's own context!
  • Well I expected YOLT to win this one handily, but not for the Japanese vehicle to absolutely massacre QOS, yet that's what it did.

    YOLT won in categories 13 to two with two ties.

    In overall points, the margin was every bit as stark as YOLT raked in 125 votes to QOS' 45. Zowie.

    Here is what the categories looked like:

    PTS: 5-5 tie
    Title Track: 10-0 YOLT
    Title Credits: 10-0 YOLT
    Main Villain: 6-4 YOLT
    Main Bond Girl: 7-3 QOS
    Overall Plot: 6-4 YOLT
    Dialogue: 9-1 YOLT
    Score: 10-0 YOLT
    Settings: 9-1 YOLT
    Action: 6-4 YOLT
    Humor: 9-1 YOLT
    Cinematography: 9-1 YOLT
    Benign Bizarre: 8-2 YOLT
    Suspense: 6-4 QOS
    Minor Characters: 5-5 tie
    Glamor: 9-1 YOLT
    Ally: 7-3 YOLT
  • Up now, Gun versus AVTAK.

    PTS: Gun
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: Gun
    Main Bond Girl (Goodnight, not Anders in Gun): Gun
    Overall Plot: Gun
    Dialogue: Gun
    Score: Gun
    Settings: Gun
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: Gun
    Cinematography: Gun
    Benign Bizarre: Gun
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally (JW vs. Chuck Lee): Gun
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: Golden Gun
    Title Credits: Golden Gun
    Main Villain: Golden Gun
    Main Bond Girl: AVTAK
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: AVTAK
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: AVTAK
    Cinematography: Golden Gun
    Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally (JW vs. Chuck Lee): AVTAK
  • Posts: 6,396
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: Gun
    Main Bond Girl (Goodnight, not Anders in Gun): Gun
    Overall Plot: Gun
    Dialogue: Gun
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: AVTAK
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: Gun
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally (JW vs. Chuck Lee): Gun
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited November 2013 Posts: 17,801
    PTS: TMWTGG
    Title Track: TMWTGG
    Title Credits: TMWTGG
    Main Villain: TMWTGG
    Main Bond Girl: TMWTGG
    Overall Plot: TMWTGG
    Dialogue: TMWTGG
    Score: TMWTGG
    Settings: TMWTGG
    Action: TMWTGG
    Humor: TMWTGG
    Cinematography: TMWTGG
    Benign Bizarre: TMWTGG
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: TMWTGG
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally: TMWTGG

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2013 Posts: 13,355
    PTS: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Title Track: A View To A Kill
    Title Credits: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Main Villain: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Main Bond Girl: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Overall Plot: A View To A Kill
    Dialogue: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Score: A View To A Kill
    Settings: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Action: A View To A Kill
    Humor: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Cinematography: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Benign Bizarre: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Suspense: A View To A Kill
    Minor Characters: A View To A Kill
    Glamor: A View To A Kill
    Ally: A View To A Kill
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    PTS: TMWTGG
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: TMWTGG
    Main Villain: TMWTGG
    Main Bond Girl: AVTAK
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: TMWTGG
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: TMWTGG
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: TMWTGG
    Cinematography: TMWTGG
    Benign Bizarre: TMWTGG
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: TMWTGG
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK
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    PTS: A View To A Kill
    Title Track: A View To A Kill
    Title Credits: A View To A Kill
    Main Villain: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Main Bond Girl: A View To A Kill
    Overall Plot: A View To A Kill
    Dialogue: A View To A Kill
    Score: A View To A Kill
    Settings: A View To A Kill
    Action: A View To A Kill
    Humor: A View To A Kill
    Cinematography: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Benign Bizarre: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Suspense: A View To A Kill
    Minor Characters: A View To A Kill
    Glamor: A View To A Kill
    Ally: A View To A Kill
  • PTS: A View To A Kill
    Title Track: A View To A Kill
    Title Credits: A View To A Kill
    Main Villain: A View to A Kill
    Main Bond Girl: A View To A Kill
    Overall Plot: The Man with the Golden Gun
    Dialogue: A View To A Kill
    Score: A View To A Kill
    Settings: A View To A Kill
    Action: A View To A Kill
    Humor: A View To A Kill
    Cinematography: A View to A Kill
    Benign Bizarre: The Man With The Golden Gun
    Suspense: A View To A Kill
    Minor Characters: A View To A Kill
    Glamor: A View To A Kill
    Ally: A View To A Kill
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    PTS: TMWTGG
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: TMWTGG
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: TMWTGG
    Overall Plot: TMWTGG
    Dialogue: TMWTGG
    Score: TMWTGG
    Settings: TMWTGG
    Action: TMWTGG
    Humor: TMWTGG
    Cinematography: TMWTGG
    Benign Bizarre: TMWTGG
    Suspense: TMWTGG
    Minor Characters: TMWTGG
    Glamor: TMWTGG
    Ally: A View To A Kill

    One of my favourites (TMWTGG) against the film that lies on place 23. This was easy.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    PTS: TMWTGG
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: AVTAK
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: TMWTGG
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: AVTAK
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: TMWTGG
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK

    Easy for me. As you may know, View's one of my favourites. AVTAK-14
    TMWTGG-3
  • Posts: 1,970
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: TMWTGG
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: TMWTGG
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: TMWTGG
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: TMWTGG
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: TMWTGG
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: TMWTGG
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    PTS: AVTAK (barely)
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: TMWTGG
    Main Bond Girl : AVTAK (again, barely)
    Overall Plot: TMWTGG
    Dialogue: AVTAK
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: TMWTGG
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: AVTAK
    Cinematography: TMWTGG
    Benign Bizarre: TMWTGG
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamor: AVTAK
    Ally : AVTAK
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