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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Going back to revisit It (2017) was such a blast. Definitely my favorite adaptation. The cast is so perfect and I love beyond just the horror there are great moments with comedy, coming of age, and other dramatic beats.

    A particular favourite of mine as well. Glad to hear others like it; even if a movie like that isn't scary, it can still be fantastic, and the cast and everything else make it that.

    A real Stephen King adaption where the real villains are the adults.

    Most of the "horror" bits honestly make me laugh because of how funny the sped-up Pennywise looks, but meant in the best possible way. Yes, that's just the thing too, is that Part 2 was doomed to be inferior because just having the children and their dynamic is so much better for the story IMO. I still haven't read the full novel, but I imagine again the children segment is better?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Going back to revisit It (2017) was such a blast. Definitely my favorite adaptation. The cast is so perfect and I love beyond just the horror there are great moments with comedy, coming of age, and other dramatic beats.

    A particular favourite of mine as well. Glad to hear others like it; even if a movie like that isn't scary, it can still be fantastic, and the cast and everything else make it that.

    A real Stephen King adaption where the real villains are the adults.

    Most of the "horror" bits honestly make me laugh because of how funny the sped-up Pennywise looks, but meant in the best possible way. Yes, that's just the thing too, is that Part 2 was doomed to be inferior because just having the children and their dynamic is so much better for the story IMO. I still haven't read the full novel, but I imagine again the children segment is better?

    The first half of the book is much better than the conclusion IMO. It's why I'm not all that fussed about the second film. The first is good enough on its own.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    THE GOOD
    • Halloween Ends
    This is the polarizing film of the season. I like this one, as I have stated before. The story of Corey is really good; it's almost a return to Carpenter's Christine rather than to Halloween. As a Halloween film, it's lacking in spades, but that doesn't make it a bad film.

    I have no idea what this means, but you definitely have my curiosity piqued with more Christine than Halloween.

    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Going back to revisit It (2017) was such a blast. Definitely my favorite adaptation. The cast is so perfect and I love beyond just the horror there are great moments with comedy, coming of age, and other dramatic beats.

    A particular favourite of mine as well. Glad to hear others like it; even if a movie like that isn't scary, it can still be fantastic, and the cast and everything else make it that.

    A real Stephen King adaption where the real villains are the adults.

    Most of the "horror" bits honestly make me laugh because of how funny the sped-up Pennywise looks, but meant in the best possible way. Yes, that's just the thing too, is that Part 2 was doomed to be inferior because just having the children and their dynamic is so much better for the story IMO. I still haven't read the full novel, but I imagine again the children segment is better?

    The first half of the book is much better than the conclusion IMO. It's why I'm not all that fussed about the second film. The first is good enough on its own.

    I haven't read the book all the way through, but the early 90s miniseries was the same way: the parts with the kids were more interesting than the parts with the adults. So I imagine that was probably a fundamental issue with the story as written by King. The adults don't have much to do except kill time once they return to Derry.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero
    We have Corey Cunningham in the film, a boy who has his own share of unfortunate mishappenings to deal with, just like Arnie Cunningham (no relation) in Christine. Without spoiling anything, there is an evolution in the character not unlike Arnie's. My mind went there almost instantly.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Going back to revisit It (2017) was such a blast. Definitely my favorite adaptation. The cast is so perfect and I love beyond just the horror there are great moments with comedy, coming of age, and other dramatic beats.

    A particular favourite of mine as well. Glad to hear others like it; even if a movie like that isn't scary, it can still be fantastic, and the cast and everything else make it that.

    A real Stephen King adaption where the real villains are the adults.

    Most of the "horror" bits honestly make me laugh because of how funny the sped-up Pennywise looks, but meant in the best possible way. Yes, that's just the thing too, is that Part 2 was doomed to be inferior because just having the children and their dynamic is so much better for the story IMO. I still haven't read the full novel, but I imagine again the children segment is better?

    I think it is, and also significantly more messed up.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero
    We have Corey Cunningham in the film, a boy who has his own share of unfortunate mishappenings to deal with, just like Arnie Cunningham (no relation) in Christine. Without spoiling anything, there is an evolution in the character not unlike Arnie's. My mind went there almost instantly.

    Ah okay, spiritual cousins it sounds like.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Tobin Bell is returning yet again as Jigsaw:

    https://deadline.com/2022/10/tobin-bell-to-reprise-role-as-jigsaw-killer-in-next-saw-film-1235153421/
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited October 2022 Posts: 7,593
    How many times has he died and reappeared in those films? Saw 1 and even 2 were brilliant I thought.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    How many times has he died and reappeared in those films? Saw 1 and even 2 were brilliant I thought.

    Agreed. Too many ham-fisted flashbacks to justify his continuous appearances.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Nice, now it will be worth watching again X) Spiral was an absolute dumpster fire. And I say that even by post-Saw II standards. Only VII / 3D gives it a run for its money. To try to attempt a ranking now we're on the topic...

    1. Saw
    2. Saw II



    3. Saw VI
    4. Saw III
    5. Saw IV
    6. Jigsaw
    7. Saw V
    8. Saw 3D
    9. Spiral

    I and II are all one needs if they want to see all the best the series had to offer. Pretty solid horror films right there. III onwards becomes too soap-opera-y and torture-porn-y, taking away from what made the first two so cool. Though not "good," I found VI pretty easily the next best one for its interesting political messaging. Personally, I would just love for them to go out with one that's shockingly good and call it a day with 10 total films, which obviously won't happen but would be nice.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Saw was one of my best horror movie experiences which totally surprised me at the time. It was a time where a twist ending was something fresh and not often seen before.
    I've never seen more than the first three and it seems I didn't miss anything.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,251
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Nice, now it will be worth watching again X) Spiral was an absolute dumpster fire. And I say that even by post-Saw II standards. Only VII / 3D gives it a run for its money. To try to attempt a ranking now we're on the topic...

    1. Saw
    2. Saw II



    3. Saw VI
    4. Saw III
    5. Saw IV
    6. Jigsaw
    7. Saw V
    8. Saw 3D
    9. Spiral

    I and II are all one needs if they want to see all the best the series had to offer. Pretty solid horror films right there. III onwards becomes too soap-opera-y and torture-porn-y, taking away from what made the first two so cool. Though not "good," I found VI pretty easily the next best one for its interesting political messaging. Personally, I would just love for them to go out with one that's shockingly good and call it a day with 10 total films, which obviously won't happen but would be nice.

    Spiral was insanely bad. It was terrible. I'm all for the old "trying something new", but Chris Rock and Sam Jackson were gunning for something that wasn't Saw, not even remotely.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I kind of want to watch Spiral now after hearing how bad it is.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I kind of want to watch Spiral now after hearing how bad it is.

    It's horrible. From what I recall from my last marathon of the series (which was the first time I finally got to see Spiral), it put some of the other, more official installments that I thought were bad in a more positive light. I'd say Spiral is the worst of the lot, hands down, with a twist that couldn't have been more obvious and poorly telegraphed.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I kind of want to watch Spiral now after hearing how bad it is.

    It's horrible. From what I recall from my last marathon of the series (which was the first time I finally got to see Spiral), it put some of the other, more official installments that I thought were bad in a more positive light. I'd say Spiral is the worst of the lot, hands down, with a twist that couldn't have been more obvious and poorly telegraphed.

    Not only that. Rock and Jackson were all "whasup, yo?"... in a Saw movie. Also, Spiral is neither scary, shocking or particularly violent. Lastly, I don't like Rock, never have, never will. He annoys the crap out of me. His constant BLAAHBLAAHBLAAH! is the most infuriating "acting" I have ever seen. I can't stand the pitch of his voice, or his exhausting ramblings. This is not the right man to play the lead part in a Saw film. Or any film. Stick to your stand-up, Chris.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I kind of want to watch Spiral now after hearing how bad it is.

    It's horrible. From what I recall from my last marathon of the series (which was the first time I finally got to see Spiral), it put some of the other, more official installments that I thought were bad in a more positive light. I'd say Spiral is the worst of the lot, hands down, with a twist that couldn't have been more obvious and poorly telegraphed.

    Not only that. Rock and Jackson were all "whasup, yo?"... in a Saw movie. Also, Spiral is neither scary, shocking or particularly violent. Lastly, I don't like Rock, never have, never will. He annoys the crap out of me. His constant BLAAHBLAAHBLAAH! is the most infuriating "acting" I have ever seen. I can't stand the pitch of his voice, or his exhausting ramblings. This is not the right man to play the lead part in a Saw film. Or any film. Stick to your stand-up, Chris.

    It's not just me then who holds absolutely no love or appreciation for Chris Rock and his work, especially as an actor. Excellent.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I kind of want to watch Spiral now after hearing how bad it is.

    It's horrible. From what I recall from my last marathon of the series (which was the first time I finally got to see Spiral), it put some of the other, more official installments that I thought were bad in a more positive light. I'd say Spiral is the worst of the lot, hands down, with a twist that couldn't have been more obvious and poorly telegraphed.

    Not only that. Rock and Jackson were all "whasup, yo?"... in a Saw movie. Also, Spiral is neither scary, shocking or particularly violent. Lastly, I don't like Rock, never have, never will. He annoys the crap out of me. His constant BLAAHBLAAHBLAAH! is the most infuriating "acting" I have ever seen. I can't stand the pitch of his voice, or his exhausting ramblings. This is not the right man to play the lead part in a Saw film. Or any film. Stick to your stand-up, Chris.

    It's not just me then who holds absolutely no love or appreciation for Chris Rock and his work, especially as an actor. Excellent.

    Chris Crock.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    He was the worst thing in DOGMA for me. The worst! And that's saying a lot, considering the fact that this is a Kev Smith film with a poop monster in it and Alanis Morissette playing God.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    He was the worst thing in DOGMA for me. The worst! And that's saying a lot, considering the fact that this is a Kev Smith film with a poop monster in it and Alanis Morissette playing God.

    Do you want to smack him?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    Posts: 3,155
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    He was the worst thing in DOGMA for me. The worst! And that's saying a lot, considering the fact that this is a Kev Smith film with a poop monster in it and Alanis Morissette playing God.

    Do you want to smack him?

    Who, James Corden? Always. Or at least put him in a chokehold. Or...oh, you meant Chris Rock...oh, ok, carry on...cough.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,251
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    He was the worst thing in DOGMA for me. The worst! And that's saying a lot, considering the fact that this is a Kev Smith film with a poop monster in it and Alanis Morissette playing God.

    Do you want to smack him?

    He hasn't said anything about my wife, has he? HAS HE?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Who, Corden? I bet he has, Darth. I bet he's said all kinds of sh-, er, oh - we're on about Chris Rock again, aren't we? I'll, er, see myself out...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Who, Corden? I bet he has, Darth. I bet he's said all kinds of sh-, er, oh - we're on about Chris Rock again, aren't we? I'll, er, see myself out...

    My wife happens to be a fan of James Corden's. 😉
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Never watched Gavin & Stacey. But I always forget that the insufferable bell end was in an episode of Doctor Who series 5 (2010). An otherwise excellent series across the board, until episode 11, The Lodger.

    I'm not married, but can I still get in line to smack him?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited October 2022 Posts: 3,155
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Venutius wrote: »
    Who, Corden? I bet he has, Darth. I bet he's said all kinds of sh-, er, oh - we're on about Chris Rock again, aren't we? I'll, er, see myself out...

    My wife happens to be a fan of James Corden's. 😉
    Yeah, but only because she hasn't heard what he's been saying behind her back... ;)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited October 2022 Posts: 8,231
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    @DarthDimi when he hears....
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
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    @DarthDimi when he hears....

    Good one! 😄😄
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I just watched Society (1989) for the first time and holy cow, this was my exact cup of tea! While I didn’t take any of the fantastical imagery and content at face value, the practical effects were absolutely marvelous and a brilliant way to disgustingly illustrate the “rich sucking the poor” so to speak. It was like Eyes Wide Shut meets The Thing. Paranoia-soaked, entertainingly acted, constantly intriguing. I loved everything about it!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm a bit late to the party but I finally got to see Nope this week and I loved it. I loved Get Out but hated Us so I was hoping I'd at least fall firmly in the middle on this new one and just like it, but it really delivered beyond my expectations. It's like Jaws of the sky in a lot of ways. Masterful stuff.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I just watched Society (1989) for the first time and holy cow, this was my exact cup of tea! While I didn’t take any of the fantastical imagery and content at face value, the practical effects were absolutely marvelous and a brilliant way to disgustingly illustrate the “rich sucking the poor” so to speak. It was like Eyes Wide Shut meets The Thing. Paranoia-soaked, entertainingly acted, constantly intriguing. I loved everything about it!

    Saw that when it came out, and remember liking it. Pretty bizarre as I remember.
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