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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    The Human Centipede - Full Sequence has been banned from being shown in British cinemas.

    http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=19471

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    It's annoying to learn that they still ban films for such reasons. 2 Girls 1 cup anybody? Furthermore, if Six is concerned with bringing home a few bucks, he won't explore the scatological stuff in too graphical a manner. People can handle blood and guts but faeces is something most people will righteously object to. I loved the first film and I'm interested in the second one. I pray that they somehow bring back Dieter Laser (no, he's not a porn actor although the name might imply something like that ;;) ).
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I heard about this. I'm expecting them to slap the long dormant 'video nasty' tag on those films. I haven't seen THC, but with all the hooha surrounding it, I must say it's piqued my curriousity.

    And on an unrelated note, thanks to some really helpful chap or chapette...



    That saves me from having to see the entire film, just for 32 seconds. Can't wait for Retribution, though. The return of Jill (/Sienna). ^:)^
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Courtesy of the blog of which i'm about to post a link to, we've get a set visit... make that a set invasion of the Piranha sequel, Piranha 3-DD...

    *there are some spoilers included*

    http://craiglgooh.blogspot.com/2011/06/set-invasion-piranha-3-dd.html
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Thanks MajorDSmythe - I haven't seen Piranha 2010 yet... Will do tomorrow I think !! :-bd
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I though Piranha was good sleazy fun. The fact it had Elisabeth Shue was the icing on the cake. I hope Piranha 3-DD will also be good sleazy fun, but at least it does have Danielle Panabaker. I'm sold one more. B-)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    More info on the next TTCM:

    http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/25124

    Interesting that this is not only going to bypass the remake, it's prequel, as well as the sequels to the original film, and declare itself the original sequel.

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    Does anyone remember that little low budget brit horror from 2008? The one with the mercs, the nazi zombies and the underground outpost? I am of course, talking about Outpost, a film that I was (and still am) a fan of. Outpost 2 has been on the cards for a while, and it was looking like it was never going to start shooting. I'd even forgotten there was going to be a sequel until recently, I went to the Black Camel site, just in case there was news, and I found this:

    After wrapping a successful shoot at the start of April, Black Camel Pictures is pleased to announce that Outpost: Black Sun is in post-production. The film stars Catherine Steadman (The Tudors, The Inbetweeners) and Richard Coyle (Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, Going Postal) as Lena and Wallace as they battle to prevent the undead Nazi army marching across Europe. Join our Facebook group for updates, competitions and general chat by clicking here.


    Heading over to their facebook page I found:

    James Mollett: Is this going straight to dvd?
    Outpost 2: Black Sun Hell no! - theatrical in the UK early 2012


    I'm not sure if a sequel was/is needed, but one thing is certain, on the strength of the original, i'll be first in line come release day.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I'm going to do a bit of shamless plugging now, all in th esake of adertisement. I'e just uploaded another list to my Listal page. Why am I posting it hear, I hear you ask..... ok, I don't but i'll tell you anyway. This one is a list of my favourite horror characters:

    http://www.listal.com/list/horror-movie-maniacs

    I think there's a few more I can add, if I can think of them.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    More info on the next TTCM:

    http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/25124

    Interesting that this is not only going to bypass the remake, it's prequel, as well as the sequels to the original film, and declare itself the original sequel.

    -----

    Does anyone remember that little low budget brit horror from 2008? The one with the mercs, the nazi zombies and the underground outpost? I am of course, talking about Outpost, a film that I was (and still am) a fan of. Outpost 2 has been on the cards for a while, and it was looking like it was never going to start shooting. I'd even forgotten there was going to be a sequel until recently, I went to the Black Camel site, just in case there was news, and I found this:

    After wrapping a successful shoot at the start of April, Black Camel Pictures is pleased to announce that Outpost: Black Sun is in post-production. The film stars Catherine Steadman (The Tudors, The Inbetweeners) and Richard Coyle (Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, Going Postal) as Lena and Wallace as they battle to prevent the undead Nazi army marching across Europe. Join our Facebook group for updates, competitions and general chat by clicking here.


    Heading over to their facebook page I found:

    James Mollett: Is this going straight to dvd?
    Outpost 2: Black Sun Hell no! - theatrical in the UK early 2012


    I'm not sure if a sequel was/is needed, but one thing is certain, on the strength of the original, i'll be first in line come release day.

    Sir, I am very intrigued by the news on TTCM and very happy in fact by the news concerning Outpost 2! Thanks for sharing, Major.

    As for the list of favourites, glad to see you put Dracula on the number one spot! Especially Bela's Dracula. However, I myself require Freddy Krueger and Michael Myers there. ;;)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Ther's a little more news on the TCM film. Get this, not only is the film going to star original Leatherface, Gunnar Hansen but also original Sally, Marylin Burns. How cool is it? B-)

    Re: my list. I can't quite bring myself to put Freddy and Michael amongst my favourites. Though I do have a certain affection for Wes Cravens New Nightmare & Halloween: The Curse Of Michael Myers. Along with Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday, they are brave departures from the norm for their respective series
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I saw this over on B-D.com, and I just had to post it. A chart of all the characters and their deaths from the F13 series, though it doesn't include those from the reboot.

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    Some of those you can guess the film from the pic. :-))
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Looks like our boy Ty West is back with a follow-up to The House Of The Devil. This next project of his is called The Innkeepers and judging by the trailer, I'd say it's one film little old me is excited to watch. How about you guys?

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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    ^ After first hearing the synopsis, I wasn't so sure. But since watching the trailer, The Inkeepers is most certainly on my radar.

    And now for some random ramblings...

    What have I to report? Well, I was disappoited with The Woman (even with the McKee/Bettis combo), and apparantly, Piranha 3DD (AKA the first horror film where Danielle Panabakers character will actually survive) will be released in January 2012. And here's a 30 second trailer:



    "Bring me my legs"

    That has to be up there with Neeson's speech in Taken, and Jackson's speech in Snakes On A Plane.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I will see Piranha 3DD. Try to stop me. :p
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    That makes two of us. If it turns out that Panabakers character dies, I might just go on a rampage. To anyone in law enforcement,I did say might. ;-)


    B-D.com have just released a potentially spoiler packed synopsis of the new Texas Chainsaw film:

    http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/27057

    Interesting idea with it. Rather than follow the remake, it's a direct sequel to the original 1974 film. :-?
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    IGN's Friday The 13th retrospective.

    http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/121/1210937p1.html

    They gave Jason X 5/5. Wait, what? Look, I don't mind Jason X, and it's cheese factor, but 5/5? :O
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    You Hammer fans and all others out there I recommend
    "The Gorgon" 1963
    this movie gave me nightmares and I have refused to watch it ever again. (I was in the Army when I saw it on TV)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    You Hammer fans and all others out there I recommend
    "The Gorgon" 1963
    this movie gave me nightmares and I have refused to watch it ever again. (I was in the Army when I saw it on TV)
    Seen it mutliple times. Nice little film. :)
    That makes two of us. If it turns out that Panabakers character dies, I might just go on a rampage. To anyone in law enforcement,I did say might. ;-)


    B-D.com have just released a potentially spoiler packed synopsis of the new Texas Chainsaw film:

    http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/27057

    Interesting idea with it. Rather than follow the remake, it's a direct sequel to the original 1974 film. :-?
    Looking forward to this!!!
    IGN's Friday The 13th retrospective.

    http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/121/1210937p1.html

    They gave Jason X 5/5. Wait, what? Look, I don't mind Jason X, and it's cheese factor, but 5/5? :O
    I disagree with some of these scores myself, Major. ;;)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 13,978
    I disagree with some of these scores myself, Major. ;;)
    As well as IGN's mistakes. The one that stood out involved Jason Takes Manhattan. According to IGN Jason went from Crystal Lake to Manhattan on one boat. Can they not tell the difference between a small Yacht and a Cruise Liner? But after disagreeing with thier scores, now I think i'm just being picky. ;-)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    That's okay, Major. We are allowed to be picky when dealing with a franchise we have a lot of love for while the franchise doesn't always have a lot of love for us. ;;)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited November 2011 Posts: 13,978
    The crosses we must bare.

    After reading about the new TCM, i've been wondering if a similar kind of film could be made for other horror series that have been rebooted/remade. Say for instance, a new Halloween film (#9), set in 2011. If i'm not mistaken, there is still one member of the Myers family, with whom Michael hasn't caught up with. Could that be done? I'm not a fan of Zombie's two film, so I wouldn't be against another sequel to the original series.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I have no objections. I am a huge fan of Zombie's first H film but the sequel got me angry. So I wouldn't mind a direct sequel. They more or less did the same thing with H2O.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I was thinking more a sequel to Ressurection. Overlooking the remake/remake sequel, and taking it's cue 9 years after Ressurection.

    The same could not be done for F13, if the timeline was to be kept intact. As of 2011, Jason has been frozen in the Crytal Lake Research Facility for 3 years. However, I would like a film to bridge the gap between Jason Takes Manhattan and Jason Goes To Hell or Jason Goes To Hell and Jason X. I think the latter would stand a better chance of happening, as both films are in hous (New Line). I have left out FvJ on purpose, as I find that doesn't quite sit right in the F13 timeline.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    I never found the slasher and blood and gore to be very scary or "true horror"
    The asian films seem to get it right, hence all the remakes of Asian films.
    Don't need blood and gory death to be scary or gross outs.
    Just simple dark shadows, creepy music and something that jumps out once in a while.
    I recommend that new TV series on FX :AMERICAN HORROR STORY
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Slashers aren't necessarily creepy; they're fun in a playful manner. However, sometimes, tension is built well and we do bite our fingernails like madmen. Still, slashers are more about blood, guts and bare chests then they are about hardcore suspense that keeps you awake at night.
  • danslittlefingerdanslittlefinger
    edited November 2011 Posts: 886
    Watching "The Curse of the Demon" 1957. One of the best demon sequences ever.





  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    Watching "The Curse of the Demon" 1957. One of the best demon sequences ever.



    My compliments to you for finding this gem. Curse of the Demon is very good and highly recommended.



  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Exclusive: Jeffrey Combs Looks Back at Re-Animator and Ahead to His Newest Projects

    For those of you who have yet to see Stuart Gordon's superb 1985 Re-Animator and its 1989 sequel, Bride of Re-Animator, allow me to introduce you to Doctor Herbert West, the titular Re-Animator, portrayed by the one and only Jeffrey Combs. What is Combs up to these days? We were lucky enough to catch up with him for an exclusive interview to find out.

    Before we look forward, however, let's take a quick look back at Combs' career:

    Through his seriously questionable research and macabre experiments in Re-Animator, Combs' Doctor West pioneers a serum that brings dead tissue back to life – often with disastrous consequences. Playing a man dangling so precariously on the edge of genius and lunacy -"I will not be shackled by the failures of your God!" - is no cakewalk for any actor, but Jeffrey relished the challenge, turning out one of the most entertaining madman performances in the history of horror cinema, before later reuniting with Bride of Re-Animator director Brain Yuzna for 2003’s slightly disappointing Beyond Re-Animator. Such talents were also noticed and snatched up by one Peter Jackson in his 1996 supernatural comedy The Frighteners. So impressed was Jackson with Combs’ mad cap re-animating antics, he cast him in the role of Milton Dammers, a psychologically fractured FBI agent investigating the occult. With celebrated work in science fiction like regular roles in the Star Trek franchise, Combs' passionate and loyal fan base is not just in horror – apologies to the Trekkies among you for the horror focus here; this is Dread Central after all!

    Now on with the interview:

    Combs tells us of his latest projects, "I voice Ratchet in the Transformers: Prime series, which is way cool. I have a few movies in post right now. Motivational Growth, which is a very creative and heady film about a young man who begins getting advice from the mold that's growing in his bathroom, and Would You Rather, the story of a sadistic gazillionaire who invites a group of very desperate people to his mansion to play a deadly game of 'Would You Rather'. Intense and riveting with great performances by a cast that really brought their A game."

    Over his career Combs has established a large and enthusiastic fan base – we asked him just how he handles being a horror icon.

    "It's very rewarding when people get psyched when they meet me, but honestly, most of the time I am anonymous. A lot of my work is in character or in make-up. I am not my characters. Most of the time I'm just a non-descript suburban dad going to the store to get milk."

    With some of the most acclaimed and celebrated titles in horror cinema getting the reboot treatment these days, it seems merely a matter of time before studio executives turn their attentions to Re-Animator (or any of the Gordon/Yuzna films for that matter). We asked for Comb's view on the matter.

    "I think it speaks to a need for safety. Movies are expensive, and in this down economic climate investors, production companies and studios are reluctant to put their money behind something untried and/or innovative. It's the philosophy of 'the brand'. If a title already has built-in recognizability, the money people feel more secure. But I think there's a real stifling of creativity that goes hand-in-hand with that choice."

    "Yes, I expect every day to hear that Re-Animator will be rebooted. It's only a matter of time. They will convince themselves that they can improve upon the original. Update it. Make it accessible to today's movie-goer. It'll be intensely edited with loads of CGI effects and fail in its capturing of the spirit and verve of the original. Sound familiar?"



    With new actors stepping into such iconic roles – Jackie Earle Haley's turn as Freddy Krueger to name but one – we asked Combs about the prospect of fresh blood stepping into the shoes of Herbert West and if he would ever consider playing West again.

    "Actors don't necessarily know they're stepping into iconic roles. I didn't. I was just doing the best I could under the circumstances with my particular skill set. The iconic stuff comes if all the other elements (and there are many) of the film are fortunate enough to come together as a complete piece of cinema."

    "Last year I saw the stage musical version of Re-Animator directed by Stuart Gordon here in LA. 'Surreal' would be the word to describe my response to seeing it. Very odd to see someone else do a role you are most known for."

    "I would attempt Herbert again, but only if the script explored West at the age I am now, of course, and delved into his past and conveyed that his work has progressed. And..... if they paid me A LOT!"

    He has worked closely with both Stuart Gordon and Brian Yuzna for the Re-Animator films, body-horror classic From Beyond, Castle Freak, Necronomicon: Book of the Dead and was cast in the role of Edgar Allan Poe in the Masters of Horror episode "The Black Cat". We wondered if a mutual love of H.P. Lovecraft brought them all together.

    "I do enjoy working with both of them. They are old friends at this point. Honestly, though, we did not come together because of a shared passion for Lovecraft. They did, I'm sure, but I'm just an actor who went to an audition and was right for a role. I didn't even know who Lovecraft was when I was cast."

    How soon did the success of Re-animator take effect on his way of life?

    "In truth, the initial success of Re-Animator inhibited my career in other genres to some degree, I think. At the time Re-Animator was looked down upon by the industry. It didn't come out of the studio system. It was put out unrated, which gave it an allure for horror fans but was thought by the mainstream industry as not being legit or artful. I seem to recall that some casting directors (mostly women) felt it was cheap, demeaning to women and crass. If a casting director thinks that about your film (without even seeing it), then you aren't going to get in on their casting. I recall some frustration with that at the time. Of course, more Lovecraft and horror projects came my way because of Re-Animator's success, but I really wanted to branch out and do projects in other genres. Have a variety, you know?"


    So what was it like for you the first day on the set of Re-Animator? Must have been a hell of a surprise to make horror cinema history...

    "It was shot in 18 days. That's pretty quick. Didn't really have time to relish in the moment. Do the scene, and on to the next. At the time I truthfully felt that since it was low budget, the chances of it breaking through were diminished. I felt lucky to get the role and get some time on a set so I could explore film acting, which at that point I hadn't done very much of. It was a complete surprise to me that it transcended its humble budget. Even though the movie has made millions, at this point I have made very, very little on the film. Not a new story, I guess."

    On how he would compare his performances in horror to his other roles such as Star Trek:

    "I don't compare them. Each script and each role has its own requirements. I do the best with what I have to work with."

    We asked which of his performances he's most proud of...

    "I have a few favorites. Re-Animator, of course. The Frighteners. Peter Jackson is a deity, and I have the fondest memories of working with him and being in New Zealand. From Beyond was not fun to make, but it was shot in Rome so that was really delightful. I like Love and a .45, which is a fairly obscure lovers-on-the-run film. It wasn't a horror film, and my role was juicy and sassy. "The Black Cat", of course. And who knows.... maybe one of the two movies in post I mentioned earlier will break out. I enjoyed making both of those."

    It seems he doesn’t like to look back at his own work...

    "No, I don't really do that. Every once in a while I catch a glimpse of something on TV, but I generally avoid watching myself. Too self-conscious. Too self-critical."

    Finally we asked if he watches many horror films these days and if there's anything special out there that has caught his attention.

    "I don't generally watch a lot of horror. Like any other genre it can be fabulous and it can suck. I think storytelling has taken a real backseat to graphic assault and methamphetamine editing. Moviemakers aren't interested in character development. They think it takes too much film time. We have to get to the effects. They have a bizarre cerebral film formula they go by. We must have a huge death five minutes into the movie! It's just odd and wrong-headed to me. If you don't have a sense of who the people are in a story, then you have no emotional interest in what happens to them. These days it seems like it's all video game flash. Just set 'em up and knock 'em down as spectacularly as you can without any concern about who they are or where they've come from or what they might be aspiring to. I'm also not a big fan of what I call 'humiliation horror'. Films filled with torture. Boring. Sound and fury signifying nothing."



    Our deepest thanks go to Jeffrey for taking the time to speak with us, and here’s hoping we'll be seeing him gracing genre screens again soon!

    http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/49179/exclusive-jeffrey-combs-looks-back-re-animator-and-ahead-his-newest-projects


    This part was my favourite:
    "I would attempt Herbert again, but only if the script explored West at the age I am now, of course, and delved into his past and conveyed that his work has progressed. And..... if they paid me A LOT!"

    Oh come on, they have to give us another one. BEYOND wasn't bad as such, it just wasn't as good as RE-ANIMATOR or BRIDE. And with Jeff Combs, or not at all.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited January 2012 Posts: 13,978
    In 'The Evil Dead' Remake -- Meet The New Ash!


    Ghost House and Mandate Pictures are going BIG with their casting for their forthcoming remake of Sam Raimi's Evil Dead, which begins lensing this March in New Zealand.

    Bloody Disgusting has learned exclusively that Lily Collins (The Blind Side, Priest, Mirror Mirror) is in final negotiations to play "Mia" in FilmDistrict's reboot aiming for release on April 12, 2013.

    *Update* Mia is the LEAD, and is the female version of Ashley J. Williams (Ash), once donned by Bruce Campbell in the original trilogy. To reveal more would ruin the movie.

    In this version, the story centers on five friends (David, Natalie, Eric, Olivia, and Mia) holed up at a remote cabin where they discover a Book of the Dead with a demonic force unleashed possessing each until only one is left to fight for survival. As we also exclusively reported, there is a drug subplot.

    As previously explained, David is a mechanic and is engaged to Natalie. Mia is the friend who is heading to the cabin to detox; Olivia is her best friend/nurse. Eric, presumably, is the kid who unleashes the demons.

    After a recent overdose, Mia struggles with her new-found sobriety. She begins acting insane, so it comes as no surprise that nobody believes her crazy claims of coyote dogs and trees attacking her!

    Fede Alvarez directs the redo of Sam Raimi's cult classic 1981 The Evil Dead from his own screenplay co-written with Rodo Sayagues. Revisions were done by Oscar-winning writer Diablo Cody.

    http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/27776

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    So there's the new Ash? :-?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Looks like RE:V is coming with full force!

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855325/#lb-vi4042498329
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