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  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    edited January 2014 Posts: 7,653
    NicNac wrote:
    The Godfather is arguably the greatest gangster movie ever made despite Warner Bros rich history of gangster movies, and the fact Godfather Part II and Goodfellas were yet to come.

    And, more pertinently Al Pacino gave a great and understated performance. Al Pacino 'understated'? Who would've thought it.

    But DO NOT miss ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA by Sergio Leone, it is a beatifull and haunting movie as well on the era of the gangter as viewed by a European, and as for the music they do not have much better composers than ENNIO MORRICONE in full stride.

  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    SaintMark wrote:
    NicNac wrote:
    The Godfather is arguably the greatest gangster movie ever made despite Warner Bros rich history of gangster movies, and the fact Godfather Part II and Goodfellas were yet to come.

    And, more pertinently Al Pacino gave a great and understated performance. Al Pacino 'understated'? Who would've thought it.

    But DO NOT miss ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA by Sergio Leone, it is a beatifull and haunting movie as well on the era of the gangter as viewed by a European, and as for the music they do not have much better composers than ENNIO MORRICONE in full stride.

    I have to agree, it is indeed a masterpiece. It's Leone in his full pride and glory, such a shame that it was his last film.

    I would also recommend "Once Upon A Time In The West", such a great movie. It is a real journey.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    MrBond wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    NicNac wrote:
    The Godfather is arguably the greatest gangster movie ever made despite Warner Bros rich history of gangster movies, and the fact Godfather Part II and Goodfellas were yet to come.

    And, more pertinently Al Pacino gave a great and understated performance. Al Pacino 'understated'? Who would've thought it.

    But DO NOT miss ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA by Sergio Leone, it is a beatifull and haunting movie as well on the era of the gangter as viewed by a European, and as for the music they do not have much better composers than ENNIO MORRICONE in full stride.

    I have to agree, it is indeed a masterpiece. It's Leone in his full pride and glory, such a shame that it was his last film.

    I would also recommend "Once Upon A Time In The West", such a great movie. It is a real journey.

    OUATIA wasn't received so well on release, by the critics. It's reputation took longer to grow, and now as you say it's a masterpiece. 'West' is simply glorious.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited January 2014 Posts: 17,804
    Apocalypse Now actually showed killing a buffalo. Coppola just had to sink to death porn for shock value he must have felt he couldn't create artistically. Too bad- it's a good film otherwise.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Apocalypse Now actually showed killing a buffalo. Coppola just had to sink to death porn for shock value he must have felt he couldn't create artistically. Too bad- it's a good film otherwise.

    I see it as more symbolic than Coppola just killing an animal for nothing. I mean, it's Coppola for crying out loud, not some director relying on only shock and awe.
    I see the act as a commentary on brutality and sacrifice. The killing of the buffalo mirrored Willard's killing of Kurtz, who some would argue was a beast/animal and needed put down, and Willard himself sacrificed a great deal to get to Kurtz's camp along the way, losing allies and some of his mind in the process. Kurtz's followers could've been sacrificing the buffalo to appease a higher being, just as Willard was doing by killing Kurtz, which he was obligated to do by his employers. It was hardly a shocking or unnatural act either, as war is all about survival of the fittest where death is not only expected but planned for.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Doesn't matter, it's real death in a motion picture. Could have be FX, but using real death is so much more compelling. We can put real rape in movies too. Real gun wounds. Think about it, reality fiction. Copolla? What, is he God? I don't care if it's Kubrick himself- death porn is the cheap & easy way to shock. And it was used. Screw Copolla.
  • Bradford4Bradford4 Banned
    edited January 2014 Posts: 152
    You don't strike me as very intelligent. You compare the killing of a lousy buffalo to the rape of a human being? Sounds logical to me. It is not "death porn"... you really think the buffalo being sacrificed is there to titillate us? And if you knew anything about the making of the movie you'd know that Coppola had nothing to do with the killing of the buffalo. He filmed a local tribe performing a real ritual.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Way to go to make friends there @Bradford4!
  • Bradford4Bradford4 Banned
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    Sorry chum but Apocalypse Now is one of my favorites and I won't stand by when someone completely misunderstands the intent of a certain scene.

    bien.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Bradford4 wrote:
    You don't strike me as very intelligent.
    My IQ is above average (saw my test score while the guidance councillor was at the loo).
    I've also made movies myself (small ones).
    Your use of the word 'titilate' is curious. I cited shock value, not titilation. The attachment of the word 'porn' to any cinematic material is meant to denote the use of graphic content for it's own sake. Think Star Trek: The Motion Picture's Enterprise fly-over- It's widely regarded as ship-porn. :D
    And to you last point: ENNNNNH, wrong answer Hans.
    Copolla co-ordinated the killing with the indigenous folk (who admittedly were going to do it anyway) so he did have a part to play in the timing of it for the camera's sake.

    Apocalypse Now was a massively awesome cinematic achievement.

    And spoiled for folks like me that hate the taking of life at all, much less in their ENTERTAINMENT, thank you very much.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    chrisisall wrote:
    Bradford4 wrote:
    You don't strike me as very intelligent.
    My IQ is above average (saw my test score while the guidance councillor was at the loo).
    I've also made movies myself (small ones).
    Your use of the word 'titilate' is curious. I cited shock value, not titilation. The attachment of the word 'porn' to any cinematic material is meant to denote the use of graphic content for it's own sake. Think Star Trek: The Motion Picture's Enterprise fly-over- It's widely regarded as starship-porn. :D
    And to you last point: ENNNNNH, wrong answer Hans.
    Copolla co-ordinated the killing with the indigenous folk (who admittedly were going to do it anyway) so he did have a part to play in the timing of it for the camera's sake.

    Apocalypse Now was a massively awesome cinematic achievement.

    And spoiled for folks like me that hate the taking of life at all, much less in their ENTERTAINMENT, thank you very much.

    corrected the starship-porn bit

    ;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    SaintMark wrote:

    corrected the starship-porn bit

    ;)

    Heh, thanks. At Trek websites we usually leave out 'star' because we all know what we mean. :\">
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,127
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Apocalypse Now actually showed killing a buffalo. Coppola just had to sink to death porn for shock value he must have felt he couldn't create artistically. Too bad- it's a good film otherwise.

    I see it as more symbolic than Coppola just killing an animal for nothing. I mean, it's Coppola for crying out loud, not some director relying on only shock and awe.
    I see the act as a commentary on brutality and sacrifice. The killing of the buffalo mirrored Willard's killing of Kurtz, who some would argue was a beast/animal and needed put down, and Willard himself sacrificed a great deal to get to Kurtz's camp along the way, losing allies and some of his mind in the process. Kurtz's followers could've been sacrificing the buffalo to appease a higher being, just as Willard was doing by killing Kurtz, which he was obligated to do by his employers. It was hardly a shocking or unnatural act either, as war is all about survival of the fittest where death is not only expected but planned for.

    I also thought it was a powerful and deeply symbolic scene. For Coppola using cheap tricks for mere shock value, people should watch his pseudo-Dracula, the most arrogant movie I ever watched.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    chrisisall wrote:
    Doesn't matter, it's real death in a motion picture. Could have be FX, but using real death is so much more compelling. We can put real rape in movies too. Real gun wounds. Think about it, reality fiction. Copolla? What, is he God? I don't care if it's Kubrick himself- death porn is the cheap & easy way to shock. And it was used. Screw Copolla.

    I fail to see the big deal as it serves a greater purpose and *spoiler*, animals die (circle of life and all that).

    How do you like Copolla's directing style in The Godfather by comparison?
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    That horse's head was a real one, by the way.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,804
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I fail to see the big deal as it serves a greater purpose and *spoiler*, animals die (circle of life and all that).
    I don't need to see real cruelty in a supposedly unreal depiction of reality, if that makes any sense to you non-veggie-saurases.
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    How do you like Copolla's directing style in The Godfather by comparison?
    His directing style isn't in question; he's awesome. Even his Dracula was impressive (and that's his worst movie IMO).
    Ludovico wrote:
    That horse's head was a real one, by the way.
    Yes, and disgusting as that was, at least it was an already dead horse head purchased from a glue factory. Revolting, but not horrifying IMHO.

    Let me ask a question: anyone here ever watch any of those actual beheading videos on Youtube from our Middle Eastern friends? I haven't. Real death (animal or Human) is not my idea of entertainment.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I would like to recommend the ghost thriller THE OTHERS (2001) starring Nicole Kidman. If you liked THE SIXTH SENSE, this is right up your alley.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,127
    Should the characters in Coppola's movies be vegetarian too? I'm just joking but both scenes worked beautifully.
  • QsAssistantQsAssistant All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
    Posts: 1,812
    This has become a Coppola/Apocalypse Now thread.

    Anyway, A film I would recommend is "Fan Boys", especially if you're a fan of Star Wars. It's a comedy about a group of friends who find out one of them is dying and will not live to see the release of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. They decide to travel to Lucas Ranch and break in to see the film before it's released. While it sounds like a sad movie, it's not. There's not a scene I would change. I highly recommend this movie.
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