Rate the Various Categories - The Films!!! 2021 - Final Community Ratings

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  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Usually I would tally this round up on Sunday. But with only 3 participants so far, not including your humble host, I’ll let this one run another week.

    It’ll feel weird leaving out @DarthDimi and @Birdleson, as they’ve been regular contributors to this thread, so can you help a brother out?

    Talking of which, has anyone seen @vzok, @MayDayDiVicenzo, @Major_Boothroyd, @Crazysoul95, @GBF and @TripAces about?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Oh good. I will throw in my votes soon. Thanks for the alert.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Oh good. I will throw in my votes soon. Thanks for the alert.

    My pleasure. It retrospect, I should have PM you beforehand. Ah, live and learn.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Always a pleasure to be here. :) Remind me please, how exactly are we to interpret the difference between screenplay and script? :)

    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 9 (it's tight, in a good way)
    5. Action - 5
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 10
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 9
    10. Music – 4 (The Bond Theme is epic, but Hunt overused it!)
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming – 10

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles – 4
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 5

    124/150 = 82.67%

    DarthDimi's 2021 Ranking -
    1. Dr No – 82.67%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited January 2021 Posts: 4,423
    Ask and ye shall receive dear @DarthDimi

    Screenplay (the written form of a movie that also includes instructions on how it is to be acted and filmed. Is the screenplay balanced, or is it too inconsistent or erratic?)

    Script (A script contains the words, dialogue, actions for a film. DAF has an excellent script, but it has an average screenplay, just to give you some examples)

    Don't worry @Birdleson. You haven't missed anything.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Fair enough. Then I still stick with my DN votes. :)
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Great to see some more participation here. Always interesting to see all these various, differing, ratings.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited January 2021 Posts: 4,516
    Dr. No (1962)

    /10
    1. Direction – 9
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 7
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming - 8

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 4
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 3

    But stil explain % ?

    I use whole numbers if that easier for you.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    M_Balje wrote: »
    Dr. No (1962)


    But stil explain % ?

    I use whole numbers if that easier for you.

    You awarded a total of 113pts out of a possible 150.
    Hence your total score for Dr. No is 75.33%
  • I don’t believe those definitions for script and screenplay are correct, as they are two different words for the same thing, so personally I think it would make more sense to combine them to one screenplay category or call them like “character actions” and “dialogue” or something. As is “screenplay” seems a bit indistinguishable from “direction”. But I’m happy to play along as is, perhaps I’m just misunderstanding!

    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 5
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 5
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 9
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming – 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles – 3
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 4

    Total: 112/150 = 74.67%

    I thought it would be a bit higher considering it’s in my top 5, but I guess clinically breaking these down into different parts can yield interesting ratings since they aren’t necessarily weighted the way I give preference to them.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    I’ve had no complaints so far, and this game has been running since 2014. Just people asking what the difference is between and script and screenplay.

    From Collins Dictionary -

    Script

    COUNTABLE NOUN

    The script of a play, film, or television programme is the written version of it.
    Jenny's writing a film script.


    Screenplay

    The script of a film, including acting instructions and scene directions.

    Taken from the Oxford English dictionary.


    I feel that script and screenplay are both different from each other, and vitally so, to warrant different categories.

    The screenplay is an all encompassing term. In this game, does the screenplay feature enough balance to the elements that one would expect in a Bond film? Does have internal logic? Do the characters make sense for their own motivations?

    That is different enough to warrant the script and the screenplay to have their own categories each.

    I would have liked to include “style” as that is an underrated part of the Bond mythos. But that would invalidated both the previous two games we’ve hosted.

  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Glad you could make it @Birdleson. Fresh eyes and all.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    royale65 wrote: »
    Usually I would tally this round up on Sunday. But with only 3 participants so far, not including your humble host, I’ll let this one run another week.

    It’ll feel weird leaving out @DarthDimi and @Birdleson, as they’ve been regular contributors to this thread, so can you help a brother out?

    Talking of which, has anyone seen @vzok, @MayDayDiVicenzo, @Major_Boothroyd, @Crazysoul95, @GBF and @TripAces about?

    I am here. I'll have to go back through the film again, but this is good timing, considering DN has moved steadily up my rankings in recent months.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Splendid old boy! Take your time.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Last chance to get your votes in. Rounding this 'un up at the weekend.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    What's this? Dr No has taken the lead? Positively shocking.

    Community Ratings 2021 -

    1. Dr No – 81.14%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited January 2021 Posts: 4,423
    Spectre, 2015

    /10
    1. Direction – 6 (A fairly decent effort until the big reveal and London climax)
    2. Screenplay – 4 (Shoddy final act and, eugh, Brofeld)
    3. Script – 8 (“Dancing on a hurricane” and “The only reason his heart was still beating was you” being particular favourites)
    4. Plot – 6 (Good idea in theory, but lacks a certain tangibility)
    5. Action – 7 (A good mix of all types of Bondian action)
    6. Main Villain – 3
    7. Main Bond Girl – 8
    8. Bond – 8 (fully morphed into the cinematic Bond, full of insouciant swagger)
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming – 5

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 4
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing -4
    18. Tilt – 4

    91/150 = 60.66%

    Royale's Ranking -
    1. Dr. No – 84.66%
    2. Spectre – 60.66%

    Quite the drop off from DN! Up to you peeps.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Spectre, 2015

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 8
    5. Action – 8
    6. Main Villain – 7
    7. Main Bond Girl – 9
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 10
    10. Music – 9
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming – 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 5
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing -4
    18. Tilt – 5

    124/150 = 82.67%

    DarthDimi's 2021 Ranking
    1. Dr No – 82.67%
    2. Spectre - 82.67%
  • Spectre, 2015

    /10
    1. Direction – 6
    2. Screenplay – 4
    3. Script – 4
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action – 5
    6. Main Villain – 4
    7. Main Bond Girl – 6
    8. Bond – 6
    9. Sets – 6
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography - 6
    12. Fleming – 2

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 2
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 1

    76/150 = 50.67%

    SomethingThatAteHim’s 2021 Ranking
    1. Dr. No – 74.67%
    2. Spectre - 50.67%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Thanks chaps!

    @DarthDimi, was that a surprise to you, the tying of DN and SP?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Well, to be honest, I really dig Spectre. It's not an act, it's for real. :) I hadn't expected the film to end up on the same level as DN though.

    For some reasons, the things that seem to put a lot of people off about SP aren't a problem in my book. In fact, whereas most seem to hate the score or, at best, accept it for what it is, I have fallen in love with the bits that were composed especially for SP. So there you have it. SP felt more like a Bond film to me than SF... ;-)
  • edited January 2021 Posts: 928
    Spectre (2015)

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 7
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 7
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming – 6

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 3
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing -4
    18. Tilt – 5 (some bonus points for Monica Bellucci)

    110/150 = 73.33%

    GeneralGogol's Ranking -
    1. Dr No – 86.67%
    2. Spectre - 73.33%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Well, to be honest, I really dig Spectre. It's not an act, it's for real. :) I hadn't expected the film to end up on the same level as DN though.

    For some reasons, the things that seem to put a lot of people off about SP aren't a problem in my book. In fact, whereas most seem to hate the score or, at best, accept it for what it is, I have fallen in love with the bits that were composed especially for SP. So there you have it. SP felt more like a Bond film to me than SF... ;-)

    Don't worry old boy, I know you're not being contrary for the sake of it. I, too, really dig SP, but the whole Blofeld angle really drags it down. Bit surprised that it ended up with with such a low % from me.

    Thanks again chaps!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Spectre, 2015

    /10
    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 4
    4. Plot – 5
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 4
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 6
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming – 3

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles – 2
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 2

    Total: 81/150 = 54.00%

    GoldenGun's 2021 Ranking -
    1. Dr. No – 80.66%
    2. Spectre - 54.00%
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Spectre (2015)

    1. Direction - 7
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 6
    4. Plot - 6
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain - 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 5
    8. Bond - 8
    9. Sets - 7
    10. Music - 6
    11. Cinematography - 7
    12. Fleming - 5

    13. Supporting Cast - 3
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt - 3

    96/150 (64%)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Marvellous to see so many votes. Voting closes at the weekend peeps!
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    edited January 2021 Posts: 2,148
    SPECTRE, 2015

    /10
    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 5
    3. Script – 5
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain – 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond – 6
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 4
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming – 6

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles – 3
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 3

    Final Score: 62.66%
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    This is so much fun, it's nice to look if my ranking holds up when splitting the films up into categories.

    Looking forward to the next round.

    Btw, I suppose the gunbarrel sequence falls into the main titles catagory?
  • Spectre(2015)

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 7
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action – 8
    6. Main Villain – 6
    7. Main Bond Girl – 8
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming – 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles – 5
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 5
    18. Tilt – 5

    118/150 (78.67%)

    I love this movie, flaws and all! I do think it gets picked on quite harshly, but there are undoubtedly problems.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    This is so much fun, it's nice to look if my ranking holds up when splitting the films up into categories.

    Looking forward to the next round.

    Btw, I suppose the gunbarrel sequence falls into the main titles catagory?

    You can do yes. The GB and PTS were in the first draft on this game, but got left out, amongst other things, to make it more streamlined and less unwieldy.
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