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I third this. It has moved from blech to meh for me.
It had around £50m of product placement, about £15m more than CR and (I think) £5m more than SF.
Isn't it a sad but well depthed soundtrack? It's captured that air of melancholy for Bond. Apparently it was done after principal photography was done, similar to the upcoming NTTD film. But of course, David Arnold's approach is more detailed and contoured than the simplistic sounds of Thomas Newman who loved percussions and also the simple tones of Hans Zimmer who just likes to emphasize one note strongly and lets that define the entire ditty or whatever he likes to call it.
Yes - it’s a fantastic score. I like Newman and Zimmer in general too, but Arnold’s work on CR and QOS are basically just second to Barry IMO for the series. I really particularly love The Palio, No Interest in Dominic Greene, Night at the Opera, Camille’s Story, and Perla de las Dunas.
Arnold really stressed the romanticism in CR and the utter depression of loss in QoS. Expressionism.
Hans Zimmer....too simplistic. One key note or a repetitive few notes and that's it...he hopefully can adapt to the times and not think this is still 2008 or the 2010s where he could get away with the same ditties. Every film he scores sounds like the same stuff.
I must admit I do enjoy Zimmer's scores but in terms of Bond music Arnold's scores for CR and QoS are easily the best since Barry IMO.
There are a few members on here that seem to think the Zimmer score for NTTD is magnificent without hearing a single note! Talk about set yourself up for disappointment!
Funnily, I ranked both films side by side in my lower tier top ten. However, they’ve both gone down in my rankings, somewhere in the middle of the teens. They just don’t give the kind of fulfillment I want from a Bond film. Interestingly, they sort of could be the true ultimate revenge film if you combined their strengths . LTK could use the production values of QOS, while QOS could give a bit more refinement in the writings of the characters like LTK’s.
I do wish I had access to the raw footage just to re-edit the whole thing. It may have THE most appalling editing method I’ve ever seen. It obviously wanted to get in on that Bourne style but Forster is no Greengrass.
Yes there are a couple of scenes where the editing is confusing, but overall I think this is overstated.
No, second unit director. The editing is average but not as bad as it’s made out. There’s plenty more wrong with it.
Bond movies have the ability to stay recent-looking for years at a time too.
By far one of my favourite moments of QOS. Bond at his most brutal. Craig's outfit here is also classic Bond.
Now, I’m just feeling around for that book to pull which reveals a small, secret hideaway for those who like SP. So far I’m alone. 😅
You're not alone. SP paid many homages and was a direct sequel to QoS. I liked it too.
The thing about QoS which brought out its emotions was the music.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/james-bond-films-list-best-worst-007-ranking-no-time-to-die-delay-a9377531.html
GE by today's standards wouldn't really fix the issue especially with the video game style of musical score and watered down tone from Dalton's style of grit. If those films had been a little more loyal in owning their predecessors better, they wouldn't divide audiences and their subsequent films would have made even more money.
GE and SF are significant cornerstones of the franchise. QoS isn’t. Personal taste is one thing but to deny the facts is pure ignorance.
Interesting list. I like that it doesn't bow to the overpraised entries like GE and SF and there are some refreshing takes - Lazenby is totally fine and DAF is recognized for being not serious. Others are head scratchers - TB has a hard to remember plot? It's one of the most clear and direct. And some of the choices of villains seems off: Anthony Zerbe, Donald Pleasance, Yaphet Kotto and Curt Jurgens are praised, while Robert Davi is just okay?
It’s nothing to do with the money they made, it’s to do with legacy. Both GE and SF captured the zeitgeist, something QoS singularly failed to do.
It has become very fashionable to rag on SF, its like the turnaround of TDK.
We'll see but I'm willing to bet SF will hold up and no QOS won't be ageing better.
But when you have to knock other Bond films in order to build up your favorites, you're not really making much of case, especially when you imply that GE and SF are of the same quality as OP and DAF.