The Great Bond Villain Elimination Game - COMPLETED : REVIEW.

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• JohnBarryFan

  March 2014 Posts: 1,405

  Tuesday:
  
  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 7
  EMILIO LARGO : 8
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 23
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17 -1
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 29 +1
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 11
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• 46620892648695402878

  March 2014 Posts: 60

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6 (-1)
  EMILIO LARGO : 8
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24 (+1)
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 29
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 11
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• pachazo Make Your Choice

  March 2014 Posts: 7,314

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 7 (-1)
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 10 (+1)
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 29
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 11
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• IGUANNA

  March 2014 Posts: 1,296

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 7
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 10
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28-
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 12+
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• sam2103

  March 2014 Posts: 4

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 7
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25 (+1)
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9 (-1)
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start

  March 2014 Posts: 7,854

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 5 (-1)
  EMILIO LARGO : 7
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22 (+1)
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• FoxRox

  March 2014 edited March 2014 Posts: 12,467

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6 (+1)
  EMILIO LARGO : 6 (-1)
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• Risico007

  March 2014 Posts: 9,846

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 5 (-1)
  EMILIO LARGO : 6
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19 (+1)
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
  
  
• CommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea

  March 2014 Posts: 8,255

  tuesday, and anyone voting against largo will meet my SPECTRE!
  
  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 5
  EMILIO LARGO : 7+1
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 27-1
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
  
  
  
  
• jobo

  March 2014 Posts: 7,507

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 5
  EMILIO LARGO : 6 (-1)
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 27
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17 (+1)
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
  
  

  CommanderRoss wrote:

  tuesday, and anyone voting against largo will meet my SPECTRE!
  

  
  
  Bring it on, son, bring it on! :)
• Crazysoul95

  March 2014 Posts: 3,336

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6 +1
  EMILIO LARGO : 6
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8 -1
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 27
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• CommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea

  March 2014 edited March 2014 Posts: 8,255

  jobo wrote:

  
  

  CommanderRoss wrote:

  tuesday, and anyone voting against largo will meet my SPECTRE!
  

  
  
  Bring it on, son, bring it on! :)

  
  Better stay indoors @Jobo, she's coming your way!
  
  
  
  
  
  
• petergreenhill5

  March 2014 Posts: 824

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 25+
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 6
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 26-
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• JWESTBROOK

  March 2014 Posts: 5,745

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 25
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 7 (+1)
  EMILIO LARGO : 5 (-1)
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 26
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• QBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.

  March 2014 edited March 2014 Posts: 14,572

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24 (-1) You're the one on your knees, old man
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 7
  EMILIO LARGO : 6 (+1) We have a way to deal with that where I come from
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 26
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• StirredNotShaken Toronto

  March 2014 Posts: 2,402

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 7
  EMILIO LARGO : 6
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24 (-1)
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 27 (+1)
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• SuperheroSith SE London

  March 2014 Posts: 578

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 8 (+1)
  EMILIO LARGO : 5 (-1)
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 27
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 12
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• Perilagu_Khan

  March 2014 Posts: 2,483

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 8+
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 11-
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• SuperheroSith SE London

  March 2014 Posts: 578

  Perilagu_Khan wrote:

  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 8+

  
  
• FoxRox

  March 2014 Posts: 12,467

  Perilagu_Khan wrote:

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 8+
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 11-
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan

  
  Messed up on largo and goldfinger's votes
• StirredNotShaken Toronto

  March 2014 Posts: 2,402

  FoxRox wrote:

  Perilagu_Khan wrote:

  DR NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 6
  EMILIO LARGO : 8+
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 9
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 28
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 21
  ELEKTRA KING : 11-
  LE CHIFFRE : 18
  RAOUL SILVA : 16
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan

  
  Messed up on largo and goldfinger's votes

  
  He's several lists behind. Not an issue, just take one from Elektra and add one to Largo from the numbers on SuperheroSith's list.
• barryt007

  March 2014 Posts: 19,339

  
  UPDATED DUE TO ERROR
  
  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 8
  EMILIO LARGO : 6
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 27
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 11
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• thelivingroyale

  March 2014 Posts: 12,837

  Dr No : 24
  Red Grant : 24
  Auric Goldfinger : 9 (+1)
  Emilio Largo : 5 (-1)
  Ernst Starvo Blofeld (OHMSS) : 24
  Dr Kananga/Mr Big : 8
  Francisco Scaramanga : 17
  Maz Zorin : 20
  Franz Sanchez : 27
  Alec Trevelayn : 22
  Elektra King : 11
  Le Chiffre : 19
  Raoul Silva : 17
  
• sirseanisbond

  March 2014 Posts: 2,189

  (Tuesday Vote)
  
  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 10 (+1)
  EMILIO LARGO : 5
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 26 (-1)
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 11
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 17
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
  
  
• sirseanisbond

  March 2014 Posts: 2,189

  This war over Goldfinger is idiotic!!! Clearly he is better than Kananga, King, and Zorin. Personally I think he's far better than Dr. No, Grant, Sanchez, and is second only to Telly's Blofeld...
• 0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"

  March 2014 Posts: 28,694

  sirseanisbond wrote:

  This war over Goldfinger is idiotic!!! Clearly he is better than Kananga, King, and Zorin. Personally I think he's far better than Dr. No, Grant, Sanchez, and is second only to Telly's Blofeld...

  
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's just quit the pussyfooting and suffocate Largo with a pillow already. He's been close to flatlining for days.
• MayDayDiVicenzo Here and there

  March 2014 Posts: 5,080

  If Goldfinger goes before Largo, then that will be a great tragedy. Largo is such a dull villain. He needs to be put out if his misery.
• Quarrel

  March 2014 Posts: 96

  (Tuesday Vote)
  
  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 10
  EMILIO LARGO : 5
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 24
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 20
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 25 (-1)
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 11
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 18 (+1)
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
  
• zebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade

  March 2014 Posts: 4,341

  Dr NO : 24
  RED GRANT : 24
  AURIC GOLDFINGER : 10
  EMILIO LARGO : 5
  ERNST STAVRO BLOFELD (OHMSS) : 25 (+1)
  DR KANANGA/MR BIG : 8
  FRANCISCO SCARAMANGA : 17
  MAX ZORIN : 19 (-1)
  FRANZ SANCHEZ : 25
  ALEC TREVELYAN : 22
  ELEKTRA KING : 11
  LE CHIFFRE : 19
  RAOUL SILVA : 18
  
  23. Gustav Graves
  22. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF)
  21. Dominic Greene
  20. Karl Stromberg
  19. Georgi Koskov and Brad Whitaker
  18. Aris Kristatos
  17. Elliot Carver
  16. Hugo Drax
  15. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
  14. Prince Kamal Khan
• FoxRox

  March 2014 Posts: 12,467

  Auric is awesome; underrated villain. Largo deserves to go first, just saying. Not going to complain, but that's how I feel.