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After all this build up, when it comes to the final confrontation, Bond leaves him dangling in a rather unconvincing escape sub. Let down much?
Twice they tried to confront Bond with Blofeld in a 'final' battle, twice were we let down tremendously. DAF was the first attempt. By all means they might just as well have finished things off in OHMSS, when the scripting had been nearly perfect for this anyway. But... they wanted to keep Blofeld and so in DAF, a very enjoyable film but not a good one for clean 'myth building' in the 007verse, they found the wrong way of dealing with Bond's arch nemesis. Regarding what I just said about DAF, I would have in fact preferred it had they left Blofeld untouched for all eternity. After all, the best and only way to do it, is Fleming's way and I'm far from convinced that the brilliant moments in that novel would suit any film script (but I'll happily leave it to a talented screenwriter to convince me otherwise).
QOS compared to part 1
Give Dominic and bond having a lot more hand 2 hand
Give Dominic and bond having a lot more hand 2 hand
I agree! That's the problem with some of the Bond final battles. There just simply isn't enough fighting, and when their is, it's much too short. QOS was a disappointment for me in the ending. What we got was great, but there needed to be MORE! Also, they should have cut out Dominic Greene's ninja screams as he swings the axe. That was a little embarrasing to watch, quite frankly.
The problem with all of this is that the re-write diluted the focus on who the actual villain is. Bond shooting Elektra implied she was the brains, but Renard carrying out the plot suggested that he was.
Renard opens up a nuclear reactor, for gods sake! Everyone on board would have been irradiated, Bond and Renard would have melted from the heat...in fact, it would have been so hot in the Reactor Compartment that neither man would have lived long enough to open the damn thing, let alone raise a finger in anger.
Bond drove away knowing DG would die...but die slowly and horribly or even at the hands of his own people if they found him, which ultimately happened.
Electra's death. I always struggle with this one. She was the main villainess and should have been killed after Renaud. After disposing of Renaud, Bond should have come back and faced Electra.
They could have had something of a fight with Electra wielding a knife or some weapon and Bond pushes her out the window and she falls to her death like the finale in "Play Misty for Me".
Bond villians live extraordinary lives and should die extraordinary deaths, not just the merciful bullet.
(But this way Brosnan would not have been able to have his necro thing with her corpse)
;)
See, I think it's better that Elektra was shot- with a quick bullet to the chest, we see that Bond had to make a swift decision as to whether or not she carried out her villainy any further. I believe that she had made him doubt his own ability to finish the mission accordingly, simply because they'd been "involved" with one another, and so by shooting her, Bond was proving to himself that she was not getting inside his head, as well as proving to her that he was in control of the situation, not her. Also, by killing Elektra before Renard, we see how dedicated Renard is to the mission, as well as how deep his devotion to Elektra was. He had nothing to live for once Bond shot her, and yet he continued on with the assignment anyway. I've always thought that was a smart move on the director's behalf, and pretty clever.
DAD I just wanted to leave the theater aftrr the noisy phony Zao bumper cart fight, the plane fight was also dragged out....oops, one parachute!
GE the satellite dish fight even got Martin Campbell wondering according to an interview...how many times can Bond actually save the world?
DAF...just upset no sort of acknowledgement that Bond wanted to finish Blofeld for his wife...it's no wonder even Connery couldn't stand Cubby.
GF, the plane fight was silly. It made the film turn into a tv-movie quality.
TND, how could Carver not know an engine was coming from behind? And his henchman was not medically capable of withstanding all that he went through.
AVTAK, they wasted Christopher Walken.
The highlight was that he had Greene suffer and knew he'd die anyway. No need to have had him crushed by a satellite.
I agree in regards to OP, DAF, and DAD. As for the other three, I think they're some of the finest finales the series has to offer! For OP, what gets me is that Gobinda falls off of the plane merely because he gets whacked in the face with a small antenna. The moviemakers spent so much screentime comparing Gobinda to the likes of Oddjob and Jaws, capable of withstanding nearly anything, and then he ends up falling to his death because Bond slapped him on the nose with an antenna. Personally, I would have been more satisfied with Bond entering the plane from the outside and duking it out with Gobinda inside the plane, ending with Bond kicking the giant Indian out of the plane- that would have added both a heightened sense of action and a more honorable death for a very worthy henchman. As for DAF, well, there is an entire list of scrapped possibilities for the finale floating around somewhere- one of the members brought it to our attention in a DAF-related discussion years ago, and I must say that all of those possibilities were far better than what we ended up with. The DAF finale is almost tragic in how wasted it was. Such potential thrown away and trampled on! As for DAD, it's really fairly entertaining, and I have little qualms about it other than the heavy use of over-the-line-cheesy puns from Gustav Graves, and even a few from Miranda Frost, unfortunately. I also don't like the concept of Jinx killing Frost- that was supposed to be Bond's kill. Frost betrayed him and caused him to spend 14 months in a North Korean torture facility. He should have been given the opportunity to shoot her, at the very least.
1. OHMSS - something about the bobsleding sequence always bothered me - maybe it was how goofy both Bond and Blofeld look in helmet and goggles lol - i dont know, it seemed a bit absurd to me... "i have an entire army of guys with guns and helicopters coming after me, including my nemesis James Bond - but, safety first.."...... i think it would've been a little cooler to see them fighting in his mountain base as stuff is exploding around them - which maybe leads to a fight out on a helicopter platform - i dont know......
2. DAF - it's Bond vs. Blofeld III, but the personal edge to this fight has been zapped by the script completely whitewashing the events of OHMSS.. and Bond simply bashing Blofeld into his control room building with the crane, and then diving to safety always seemed stupid to me..
3. LALD - not Bond and Kananga, but Bond vs Baron Samedi.... such an interesting unique villain, only to taken out with an upper cut like in Mike Tyson's PUNCH OUT, then landing in a coffin of snakes.................. wow..................
4. TWINE - I definitely expected more from the fight between Bond and a man who feels absolutely no pain (except for a broken heart - tee hee hee!!)... but between terrible puns "welcome to my nuclear family" - terrible fighting (notice when Bond and Renard start to choke each other, their hands are not clasped around their necks - it looks like terrible professional wrestling) - and, Brozzer's pain face just to add insult to injury..... i just felt really underwhelmed.......... i remember reading the book written by Benson before going to see the movie, and i thought the fight was much better in book than in the film.
Agreed. Some of the shots in this sequence are breathtaking.
I always see Octopussy as having three mini finales; the Circus finale (foiling Orlov's plot), the raid on Kamal Khan's palace, and the finale on (and outside) the plane.
That's what I love about OP- just when you think the action is finished, it comes back for more!
It was OTT
Plus DAD tried doing that with 3 villain deaths, and look how that turned out.
I really beg to differ. IMO, Octopussy has one of the most satisfying finales in the franchise.