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Which Villain's Quote Upset You the Most?

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Dario and Greene, good riddance to them.
    Also Blofeld in DAF, knowing Bond lost his wife due to him. "<i>Making mudpies, 007?"</i>

    Not that 007 seems to care in that film. Thank you, Mankiewicz. This guy was worse than Purvis and Wade.
  • TokolosheTokoloshe Under your bed
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    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Elektra: "You couldn't kill me. Not in cold blood!"

    Grrrrrr. Elektra is so bloody obnoxious.


    Killing someone in cold blood generally refers to times when one's own life is not being threatened. Although Elektra wasn't threatening him right then, she had just tried to kill him and her other half was about to nuke the whole city, so I think it was at least lukewarm blood!

  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Sanchez to Leiter: "I want you to know this is nothing personal, it's purely business."

    Having had Leiter's bride murdered on their wedding night shows it was far more personal than business.
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    I think Greene's probably one of the worst when it comes to below-the-belt quotes. I think it's also terrible when he compares Bond and Camille as "damaged goods" and then trashes Vesper by saying "Everything that he touches seems to wither and die."

    i agree Greene, although ultimately disappointing, was the right side of dark nasty stuff.

    most bond baddies were over the top cartoon characters to lighten the nasty side of a bond script.

    my fav baddies are Sanchez no.1 and Grant - a real nasty piece of work - someone they should write into the next script.

    “The first one won’t kill you. Not the second. Not even the third. Not until you crawl over here and kiss my foot!”

    'What did he promise you, his heart? Give her his heart!'

    Classic stuff from two classic Bond movies.



  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That's why I like Greene so much, he's just incredibly sinister and dark. Even his bug-looking eyes make him that much more creepy, like that look he gives when he's in the back of the car after arriving in Bregenz, that stare he gives to Gregory and Felix.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    A bloody waste of good scotch.

    Yes, Bond is a villain as well.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    That's why I like Greene so much, he's just incredibly sinister and dark. Even his bug-looking eyes make him that much more creepy, like that look he gives when he's in the back of the car after arriving in Bregenz, that stare he gives to Gregory and Felix.

    Greene didn't have the best line, but he probably hade the best "look."

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Perilagu_Khan, it was as if his eyes stared into your soul when he looked at you.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Perilagu_Khan, it was as if his eyes stared into your soul when he looked at you.

    Which would be all well and good if it was Olga Kurylenko's eyes doing the staring, but when the eyes are diabolical, not so good.

  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure most of us crave the grim and dark and we just don't admit it enough. It's one of those unspoken, hush-hush things, just like most people would rather read a newspaper about a mass shooting than they would a new bill being passed or some random sports team that won the night before.


    Yes!

    Good thing is that John Logan picked up on how people liked seeing Bond's depression in SF.

  • TrueMiracle85TrueMiracle85
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    "I'm afraid that your friend Mathis is really... my friend Mathis."

    That one really screwed things up for Bond. Le Chiffre plants this idea in Bonds head while he's vulnerable and Bond doesn't think twice about it. Probably my favorite thread between CR and QoS.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I love Grant's wordplay with Bond. While on the train masquerading as Bond's contact Grant thinks his plans are going swimmingly, but when Bond bursts his bubble things get really nasty. I love how he always jabs at Bond by calling him "old man" and tries to make his death a prolonged one like he's a sick dog needing put down. I get a massive grin when Bond kills Grant in that brutal train fight and spats that "old man" line right back at him. So satisfying.
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
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    TrueMiracle85 wrote:
    "I'm afraid that your friend Mathis is really... my friend Mathis."

    That one really screwed things up for Bond. Le Chiffre plants this idea in Bonds head while he's vulnerable and Bond doesn't think twice about it. Probably my favorite thread between CR and QoS.

    Wow! Le Chiffre is the only villain played and portrayed by the same actor in two consecutive films (although only in photo form) but he earns the title. That Mathis mind trick puzzles fans to this day who ask what really happened.

    @0Brady, thanks for reminding us about Red Grant. How dare he call Bond an old man at 33?
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
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    "No no, save your money"- Sanchez...Although he was a three-dimensional character who wasn't offending Bond in the scene, I once said this to a friend from another country and she got mad and offended.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited May 2014 Posts: 28,694
    dramaticscenesofQOS wrote:
    TrueMiracle85 wrote:
    "I'm afraid that your friend Mathis is really... my friend Mathis."

    That one really screwed things up for Bond. Le Chiffre plants this idea in Bonds head while he's vulnerable and Bond doesn't think twice about it. Probably my favorite thread between CR and QoS.

    Wow! Le Chiffre is the only villain played and portrayed by the same actor in two consecutive films (although only in photo form) but he earns the title. That Mathis mind trick puzzles fans to this day who ask what really happened.
    I've been curious about that for sure. We are led to believe that Mathis cons Vesper through a text to her phone, but if Mathis really wasn't a rat then how the hell did Le Chiffre and his boys get a hold of Mathis's phone or number to bait her?

    Maybe a Quantum member messaged Vesper to meet them outside and she lied to Bond by throwing out that it was Mathis, but if that's the case how would Le Chiffre know that so that he could play with Bond's mind?
  • TrueMiracle85TrueMiracle85
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    dramaticscenesofQOS wrote:
    TrueMiracle85 wrote:
    "I'm afraid that your friend Mathis is really... my friend Mathis."

    That one really screwed things up for Bond. Le Chiffre plants this idea in Bonds head while he's vulnerable and Bond doesn't think twice about it. Probably my favorite thread between CR and QoS.

    Wow! Le Chiffre is the only villain played and portrayed by the same actor in two consecutive films (although only in photo form) but he earns the title. That Mathis mind trick puzzles fans to this day who ask what really happened.
    I've been curious about that for sure. We are led to believe that Mathis cons Vesper through a text to her phone, but if Mathis really wasn't a rat then how the hell did Le Chiffre and his boys get a hold of Mathis's phone or number to bait her?

    Maybe a Quantum member messaged Vesper to meet them outside and she lied to Bond by throwing out that it was Mathis, but if that's the case how would Le Chiffre know that so that he could play with Bond's mind?

    Perhaps Le Chiffre had his men retrieve the phone from the dead guy in the trunk when two of his men get arrested? The scene where Mathis says to Bond, "Being dead doesn't mean one can't still be helpful." If Le Chiffre's men did it would allow them to trace the number back to Mathis.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, like Bond said, Le Chiffre knew exactly who Bond was before he even entered the hotel, so there was no point in playing the role of Beech, hence him giving away who he was when he walked up to the front desk in the lobby. If Le Chiffre knew this, he probably knew exactly who Mathis was, as well, and used this against Bond. Vesper lies to Bond in Italy about the "Back in one month." text, so I'm sure it was Le Chiffre, Valenka, or Kratt texting her to meet outside about what to do next in terms of getting the money. She just used Mathis' name because that's the only person she could realistically use for Bond to accept her getting up to leave without questioning it.

    The "Mathis...?" line always gets me, though. The only thing I can think of is that he finds it odd that Mathis would want to meet Vesper alone to speak with her. Either way, I believe Vesper's lie about Mathis meeting her makes Bond absolutely distrust Mathis once Le Chiffre lies and says that Mathis is really his friend. I think at this point, Bond believes Mathis was in on it the whole time, and Mathis really did text her to come outside to kidnap her. Perhaps Bond believes Mathis is in on it because someone told Le Chiffre that Bond knows his tell, and he is now under the impression that Mathis is the rat.

    I hope this makes sense.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, like Bond said, Le Chiffre knew exactly who Bond was before he even entered the hotel, so there was no point in playing the role of Beech, hence him giving away who he was when he walked up to the front desk in the lobby. If Le Chiffre knew this, he probably knew exactly who Mathis was, as well, and used this against Bond. Vesper lies to Bond in Italy about the "Back in one month." text, so I'm sure it was Le Chiffre, Valenka, or Kratt texting her to meet outside about what to do next in terms of getting the money. She just used Mathis' name because that's the only person she could realistically use for Bond to accept her getting up to leave without questioning it.

    The "Mathis...?" line always gets me, though. The only thing I can think of is that he finds it odd that Mathis would want to meet Vesper alone to speak with her. Either way, I believe Vesper's lie about Mathis meeting her makes Bond absolutely distrust Mathis once Le Chiffre lies and says that Mathis is really his friend. I think at this point, Bond believes Mathis was in on it the whole time, and Mathis really did text her to come outside to kidnap her. Perhaps Bond believes Mathis is in on it because someone told Le Chiffre that Bond knows his tell, and he is now under the impression that Mathis is the rat.

    I hope this makes sense.
    Perfect sense. I often wonder about this stuff, and will try to apply some common thinking when I revisit the film next.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've done the same thing with some of my favorite films before, and I hate it because I feel like all I have to do is think, but my brain won't let me, so that's when I come here and ask the same question five or six times before it gets pounded into my head. Take GE: my favorite Bond film, yet it took so long for me to realize the whole Alec/Ourumov plot and what really happened between the two all those years between the PTS and the rest of the film.
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
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    What I like is the Bond movies that make you think because these films don't just come out every year. There's quite a bit of time, even if two years and no amount of special bonus features will ever make up for a good smart realistic Bond movie.

  • barryt007barryt007
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    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Perilagu_Khan, it was as if his eyes stared into your soul when he looked at you.

    Which would be all well and good if it was Olga Kurylenko's eyes doing the staring, but when the eyes are diabolical, not so good.

    I like Greene,i dont see why he gets so much flack on here at the moment.
    He got stuffed in my 'Great Bond Villain Elimination' game.

    :O
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
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    barryt007 wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Perilagu_Khan, it was as if his eyes stared into your soul when he looked at you.

    Which would be all well and good if it was Olga Kurylenko's eyes doing the staring, but when the eyes are diabolical, not so good.

    I like Greene,i dont see why he gets so much flack on here at the moment.
    He got stuffed in my 'Great Bond Villain Elimination' game.

    :O

    Many oddities on MI6 these days.

  • barryt007barryt007
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    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    barryt007 wrote:
    Perilagu_Khan wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Perilagu_Khan, it was as if his eyes stared into your soul when he looked at you.

    Which would be all well and good if it was Olga Kurylenko's eyes doing the staring, but when the eyes are diabolical, not so good.

    I like Greene,i dont see why he gets so much flack on here at the moment.
    He got stuffed in my 'Great Bond Villain Elimination' game.

    :O

    Many oddities on MI6 these days.

    Totally agree PK..

  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited May 2014 Posts: 11,189
    I agree with @Tokoloshe. For me it has to be:

    "Don't worry...we gave her a niice honeymooooon"

    Sadistic piece of s**t.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    And who can forget the moment in Goldfinger where Oddjob cusses out Bond and makes a derogatory comment about his mother before their final face-off at Fort Knox?

    Oddjob: "... ... ... ... ..."

    Wow, what a potty mouth he was...
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
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    No villain has ever mentioned Tracy....BUT Mr. White did mention Vesper very casually while laughing at how he knew what Bond and M didn't know.

    "Tosca isn't for everybody"....what a coverup!

    Mr. White is really menacing too.
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
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    Here's one that hits below the belt...

    "Please...make it quick!" Even in the movie theatre the first time I saw this I wondered, how dare this jerk ask for that after the hell Bond went through?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    dramaticscenesofQOS wrote:
    Here's one that hits below the belt...

    "Please...make it quick!" Even in the movie theatre the first time I saw this I wondered, how dare this jerk ask for that after the hell Bond went through?

    Yeah, Yusef is a rattish coward. Just seconds before he was acting all smug with his lady friend who he was going to use just like Vesper. Nobody deceives my gal and gets away with it!
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
    edited May 2014 Posts: 1,282
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    dramaticscenesofQOS wrote:
    Here's one that hits below the belt...

    "Please...make it quick!" Even in the movie theatre the first time I saw this I wondered, how dare this jerk ask for that after the hell Bond went through?

    Yeah, Yusef is a rattish coward. Just seconds before he was acting all smug with his lady friend who he was going to use just like Vesper. Nobody deceives my gal and gets away with it!

    Even the guy who plays Yusef in my QoS scene reenactment was commenting a lot between takes about how much of a jerk the character was and he hadn't seen QoS before. The whole "OK, anything for the good life" and laughter was effective at making Yusef constantly test Bond out. The reason I tried to set up the scene with worldly set pieces and props where we filmed was to symbolize how Yusef must have honeytrapped women from around the globe. We used a necklace from my friend who had just broken up with his girlfriend who didn't even bother to get her necklace back so I cheered up my friend by showing him we had use for his heartbreak, lol.
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
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    "He jeopardized MINE!"-Max Zorin (before the cowbell)
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