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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Ok, there seems to be some major bullshit going on here. On the RottenTomatoes home page they give a 70% rating, but when I go on the Ghosbusters page, I get a 29% rating.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    @Risico007 @bondjames @Creasy47 @doubleoego @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 @Thunderfinger @Thunderpussy

    'Ghostbusters' (2016) has a 67% rating by critics on RT so far.

    EDIT: 70% now.
    That's a lot higher than I expected. The rating will probably change drastically once we get closer to the theatrical release like it always does.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @jake24 on the specific Ghostbusters page on RT it says 29% rating. Maybe there is an error of some kind on the homepage.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @DaltonCraig007, I'd be more ready to believe the 29 than the 70. I predict a massive, massive stinker, and I think most of the public knew that when the first trailer released, or even before that. Every joke is apparently meant to elicit great laughter, but all I chuckle at is how hard they're trying and failing to do anything remotely clever.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    @jake24 on the specific Ghostbusters page on RT it says 29% rating. Maybe there is an error of some kind on the homepage.
    Regardless, I have no desire to see this one in the cinema.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 I'm sure there is some kind of manipulation going on, or simply an error. They are expecting at 65+ million opening, so perhaps they think if they try to give it some imaginary high rating it will help. I was hoping for months now that the film would fall flat on it's face due to appalling reviews.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    A positive Ghostbusters review.

    http://lrmonline.com/news/film-review-ghostbusters
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    @jake24 on the specific Ghostbusters page on RT it says 29% rating. Maybe there is an error of some kind on the homepage.
    Probably has to do with the review embargo Sony had in place to prevent any kind of bad word of mouth for the movie. I saw a bunch of clips from it and it looks like a terrible piece of crap. Just another to add in a list of terrible remakes of good movies.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    When the movie fails, everyone involved will milk the all-female angle and try to make it seem like audiences are anti-women in film and not ready for their so-called innovative vision. We don't mind all female led movies, Mr. Feig and co. We just like good movies. Better luck next time, I say, when Feig, McCarthy and Wiig all get together with the same old faces in yet another film to play the same exact roles and tell the same exact jokes as they always do, all over again. Double yawn.
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    Better luck next time, I say, when Feig, McCarthy and Wiig all get together with the same old faces in yet another film to play the same exact roles and tell the same exact jokes as they always do, all over again. Double yawn.

    Well the only one of their films that I've actually seen is Bridesmaids and that seems very different to Spy and Ghostbusters. Likewise, from what I've seen her in, Kristen Wiig isn't the same in everything. Off the top of my head I've seen her in Paul and Bridesmaids and the two characters couldn't have been more different. I didn't like Bridesmaids, but Melissa Mccarthy's character in that was nuanced and seemed like a real person, in contrast to the loudmouth characters she seems to play now (to be fair I'm basing this off trailers so I might be wrong even there, Spy got very good reviews so she must have done something right there).

    I've got no interest in Ghostbusters (no interest in the whole franchise really, I've seen the first one when I was younger and I really didn't think that much of it) and for the record I don't think it looks very good at all but I feel like a lot of people actively wanted it to fail, even before the trailers, and anyway it's unfair to make generalisations such as all their work is bad, or all their work is the same, based off one bad film.

    I think the way they've handled the backlash to this movie has been a disaster but there are definitely some people who hated the film because of the all female cast. To say there isn't any at all is ridiculous. How else do you explain the negative backlash that began long before the first trailer hit. As soon as it was announced the "PC gone mad!" brigade were out in full force. Using the old chestnut of there's no reason for it (because for some reason certain people believe there needs to be some sort of story reason or something else to justify diversity in different types of media, films games etc, anything outside of straight white male needs a good reason otherwise it's just seen as pandering). Whereas if it was a reboot with male actors I think there still would've been a vocally annoyed fanbase but not nearly to that extent.

    Yes, criticism of the film is justified now we've had a look at it, but this began long before people knew anything about the film other than it was a woman led reboot. Regardless of the quality of the film, there are definitely sexists who wanted it to fail from the outset. I'm sure there are genuine fans who hated the idea altogther too, but like I said, I think the backlash (pre trailers) would have been significantly smaller if it was a reboot starring men.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, that's pretty much been the angle of anyone involved with this movie so far: if you don't like what you see in the trailers, it's because you hate women.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2016 Posts: 15,717
    Weren't there going to be new female leads mixed up with the original cast if 'Ghostbusters 3' had managed to be made? So I don't think it's the all-female cast the problem, it's that the film is just awful.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2016 Posts: 15,717
    Ghostbusters (2016) has a 75% rating now that it's been added to its specific page on RT. What the hell?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    76% now. Critical consensus reads: Ghostbusters does an impressive job of standing on its own as a freewheeling, marvelously cast supernatural comedy -- even if it can't help but pale somewhat in comparison with the classic original.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I'll give it a chance.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I'm sick of bad remakes of good movies anyway. Remake Bad movies, not take great movies and turn them into mainstream trash.

    Total Recall 2012. Trash.

    RoboCop 2014. Trash.

    Ghostbusters 2016. Trash.

    I'm sure there are more than that, that are trash too. And now a remake of Death Wish with Bruce Willis is on it's way. I bet that's going to suck too. What a sad hole Hollywood can't seem to dig themselves out of.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Why is Bruce working on a revamped Death Wish? Isn't McClane enough for him, especially since both projects would essentially involve the same one man against many idea? Give another actor a shot at it if it has to be done. Knowing Willis' reputation as of late, and how sick many in the industry have gotten of his behavior, I'd be surprised if he actually ended up staying cast in the role.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I agree, I think it would work much better with a non action movie actor.
    So it would be more of a shock to see for example Tom Hanks as a
    Revenge filled vigilante.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I think Pierce could do a perfect Paul Kersey like character.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    @Murdock, you're the biggest Death Wish/Bronson fan I know. Who would you like to see carry on the film's legacy into the modern era, if it had to happen?

    He might be a bit too old for it, but I think Harvey Keitel would be a really strong choice:

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2016 Posts: 15,717
    May I suggest for a potential Death Wish remake:

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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I would have to go with Pierce. I think he would make a great vigilante movie. He has an everyman quality about him. He would be ideal for my dream Death Wish remake. :)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I think Pierce could do a perfect Paul Kersey like character.

    Yes, Brosnan would have would have been great for the role. I, always seen George Clooney in the role of pacifist turned Vigilante.


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    Nearly two pages of almost totally negative critisism for a film no-one has even seen yet. Its like craignotbond.com all over again. I for one will at least give the new Ghostbusters an even chance
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    cooperman2 wrote: »
    Nearly two pages of almost totally negative critisism for a film no-one has even seen yet. Its like craignotbond.com all over again. I for one will at least give the new Ghostbusters an even chance

    Sometimes it's easy to tell a stinker, there's really nothing more to say on it. But your money is your money, so feel free to spend it as you see fit. You may soon find out, however, that your regret it also your regret, and nobody else can be blamed for the trauma the film may cause inside of you from its unoriginality and rehashed comedy from over thirty years ago.

    It will be quite fitting that the new Ghostbusters will haunt the movie industry's comedy genre, Sony execs and the cast's careers and reputations for a while to come. It's going to take a lot to face this maelstrom of backlash incoming, and I don't know who they're all gonna call to help them get through it. Certainly not the you-know-whos.
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    You make my point for me really OBrady. Its not about whether the new GB is any good or not, its about people pre-judging something they havent even seen.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Some films just have the wiff of failure about them,
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    cooperman2 wrote: »
    You make my point for me really OBrady. Its not about whether the new GB is any good or not, its about people pre-judging something they havent even seen.

    It's what we do as a moviegoing public, mate. We watch trailers, listen to reviewers and fans to judge whether we should pay top dollar to see a film, then ultimately make a final judgement on it. This case is no different, and actually this one is even more prevalent as it has been talked about forever now since the idea was announced. And this has everything to do with whether it's good or bad, as you wouldn't be arguing with me if I was going around singing its praises before seeing it. Only the negatives upset you.

    I'm not pulling things out of my ass, you see. I've followed numerous reports and pieces written about the film's production, the content of the film and of course endured all the trailers and teasers in addition to listening to every review I can from a variety of people with differing backgrounds. I wrote a mini essay on why the film's presentation and approach doesn't work on another thread of this forum as well, laying out the problems I saw visibly rearing their heads in all that I heard and read.

    What it comes down to is this: the movie is working so hard to push a girl power agenda to get women more stake in Hollywood, but does this counter-intuitively by giving their cast stereotypical and downright offensive roles to fill, while also making all the male characters idiots or unpleasant you-know-whats. This isn't how you go about trying to get women more importance in film, especially when the cast is recycling everything they always play, and they're not even playing original characters in the film, as each of the women are carbon copy archetypes of the old guard of Ghostbusters.

    No original roles for the women, unoriginal casting, and stereotypical and demeaning characters on both the male and female sides with objectification present in much of it doesn't correlate to a film that will make any positive mark on increasing the exposure of minority parties inside the industry in a smart and strong way. Mad Max: Fury Road, this certainly is not, a film that had a prominent and strong female cast without the filmmakers and cast cramming the fact down our throats or making the men in the film worse to make the women feel more appealing. It just told a story with great male and female characters, and got on with it in the classy and smart way.

    This Ghostbusters looks to be anything but that, however.
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    But why should we waste our time watching a movie we know will be bad I don't need to see Giant Shark Vs Mega Octopus starring Debbie Gibson to know that the film will be bad (in that case I don't even need to see the trailer the title and top bill alone are enough to make me walk away)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @cooperman2, the sole purpose of teaser/theatrical trailers is to market/promote your movie, while trying to get people interested enough in paying for a ticket to watch the movie in theaters. The trailers make the movie look like the equivalent of a pile of old cat vomit; thus, I have judged the footage accordingly and won't be seeing it.
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