NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Something that should also be considered is that MGM needed a new production partner, as the deal with Sony expired. Amy Pascal, who had been any ally of sorts to EON, stepped down and was replaced by Tom “Deadpool will never be a hit” Rothman, just coming out of his tenure at Fox. Without a production partner, EON couldn't make a new Bond film.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    WB wanted to release Tenet internationally before a later domestic rollout, but Nolan refused because he wanted to support North American theaters.

    According to two insiders, with foreign ticket sales expected to account for two-thirds of Tenet’s overall gross, Nolan and Warner executives discussed releasing the film internationally ahead of the North American rollout, a relatively risky strategy in an era of rampant overseas movie piracy, when most major motion pictures arrive in theaters worldwide on the same date. But according to these sources, the filmmaker wanted to help support American theaters in their time of need by sticking to the original plan.

    https://www.vulture.com/2020/07/is-tenet-coming-out-this-summer.html

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    That is interesting. I wonder if WB will ask the same of Wonder Woman.
  • OOWolfOOWolf Savannah
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The_Return wrote: »
    @Mendes4Lyfe It basically boils down to this: EON sided with Craig over Boyle because Barbara Broccoli is literally in love with Daniel Craig. Then again, who can blame her? People madly in love can be pretty irrational.

    @The_Return
    That whole "Barbara Broccoli is in love with Daniel Craig" argument is hilariously immature. Unless you don't want to be taken seriously, I hope you will quickly change that tune.

    Sorry, but there is some SERIOUS favoritism at play. I don't know if there's a single actor in cinema history, tied to a famous franchise, that's been catered to as much as Craig has with Bond. She's often reiterated how "gorgeous" he is and yada, yada, and I definitely think that there has to be some deep attraction at play. The sausage factory that Cubby and Salzman ran, produced the historic films that we know and love in generally 2 year gaps! I mean, come on! I apologize to anyone that adores Craig's films, but neither he nor his Bond films established the legacy.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 440
    OOWolf wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The_Return wrote: »
    @Mendes4Lyfe It basically boils down to this: EON sided with Craig over Boyle because Barbara Broccoli is literally in love with Daniel Craig. Then again, who can blame her? People madly in love can be pretty irrational.

    @The_Return
    That whole "Barbara Broccoli is in love with Daniel Craig" argument is hilariously immature. Unless you don't want to be taken seriously, I hope you will quickly change that tune.

    Sorry, but there is some SERIOUS favoritism at play. I don't know if there's a single actor in cinema history, tied to a famous franchise, that's been catered to as much as Craig has with Bond. She's often reiterated how "gorgeous" he is and yada, yada, and I definitely think that there has to be some deep attraction at play. The sausage factory that Cubby and Salzman ran, produced the historic films that we know and love in generally 2 year gaps! I mean, come on! I apologize to anyone that adores Craig's films, but neither he nor his Bond films established the legacy.

    I know you dislike Daniel Craig and Barbara Broccoli but come on. This is a bit silly even for you.

    Cubby kept Roger Moore on for years with increasingly larger salaries and talked about how attractive he was to women, but because he's a man no one assumes that there was some kind of sexual relationship between them.

    Plenty of movie stars get far more preferable treatment than Daniel Craig whether it be far bigger salaries, percentages on the gross, or even being allowed to have their scenes be filmed separately and then spliced in.

    It's easy to forget that Barbara has only ever chosen one Bond (Brosnan was her dad's pick) and from the moment he was announced until the opening of Casino Royale she was mocked and lambasted incredibly publically for it.

    Given that her tenure with him has now produced some of the highest-grossing and most critically acclaimed Bonds ever, it's understandable why she A) doesn't want to part with him and B) is keen to remind everyone that he was her choice.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Robert Downey Jr, anyone?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2020 Posts: 15,718
    China's cinemas to reopen July 20th.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chinas-cinemas-reopen-july-20-1303401

    This article fails to note that China reopened their cinemas two times since the nationwide closure in January. Both times cinemas were ordered to close down again within a week due to spikes in Covid-19 cases.
  • OOWolfOOWolf Savannah
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    OOWolf wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The_Return wrote: »
    @Mendes4Lyfe It basically boils down to this: EON sided with Craig over Boyle because Barbara Broccoli is literally in love with Daniel Craig. Then again, who can blame her? People madly in love can be pretty irrational.

    @The_Return
    That whole "Barbara Broccoli is in love with Daniel Craig" argument is hilariously immature. Unless you don't want to be taken seriously, I hope you will quickly change that tune.

    Sorry, but there is some SERIOUS favoritism at play. I don't know if there's a single actor in cinema history, tied to a famous franchise, that's been catered to as much as Craig has with Bond. She's often reiterated how "gorgeous" he is and yada, yada, and I definitely think that there has to be some deep attraction at play. The sausage factory that Cubby and Salzman ran, produced the historic films that we know and love in generally 2 year gaps! I mean, come on! I apologize to anyone that adores Craig's films, but neither he nor his Bond films established the legacy.

    I know you dislike Daniel Craig and Barbara Broccoli but come on. This is a bit silly even for you.

    Cubby kept Roger Moore on for years with increasingly larger salaries and talked about how attractive he was to women, but because he's a man no one assumes that there was some kind of sexual relationship between them.

    Plenty of movie stars get far more preferable treatment than Daniel Craig whether it be far bigger salaries, percentages on the gross, or even being allowed to have their scenes be filmed separately and then spliced in.

    It's easy to forget that Barbara has only ever chosen one Bond (Brosnan was her dad's pick) and from the moment he was announced until the opening of Casino Royale she was mocked and lambasted incredibly publically for it.

    Given that her tenure with him has now produced some of the highest-grossing and most critically acclaimed Bonds ever, it's understandable why she A) doesn't want to part with him and B) is keen to remind everyone that he was her choice.


    First of all, I neither dislike Daniel nor Barbara because I don't know them personally. It's possible that we would get along swimmingly. Second, I just remarked that Barbara appears smitten with Daniel, not that they have a sexual relationship...

    Aside from a few entries, the Bond series has almost always produced high grossing films. I'm not implying that Craig's entries haven't been successful, only that they're from a period where prices are inflated on everything, including cinema tickets.

    My whole point is that there hasn't been a single Bond actor to receive as much leeway in regards to scheduling, while being given a producer role, and a ridiculous advance. I personally don't buy that he came back because there needed to be an "end" to the story arc. We all know that SPECTRE was supposed to be the end, and the film's finale establishes this fact. If the writers had a strong grasp of a continuation, there wouldn't have been 5 or 6 screenwriters trying to figure it out for 'NTTD.'

    I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but I'm still perplexed as to why Brosnan wasn't granted the honor of finishing up his run with a well-written and grounded outing, which he claims to have wanted, yet Craig is regarded as the only one capable of raking in a billion bucks. Craig's a great actor, and I admire him for his array of roles, but I don't see why he's so coveted by the producers in regards to being Bond. Personally, he should have finished out his story arc with Skyfall, while a more Fleming-esque successor tackled SPECTRE and Blofeld. That way, it would feel more cohesive and this version of Blofeld wouldn't had to have been so rushed.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited July 2020 Posts: 8,185
    OOWolf wrote: »
    OOWolf wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The_Return wrote: »
    @Mendes4Lyfe It basically boils down to this: EON sided with Craig over Boyle because Barbara Broccoli is literally in love with Daniel Craig. Then again, who can blame her? People madly in love can be pretty irrational.

    @The_Return
    That whole "Barbara Broccoli is in love with Daniel Craig" argument is hilariously immature. Unless you don't want to be taken seriously, I hope you will quickly change that tune.

    Sorry, but there is some SERIOUS favoritism at play. I don't know if there's a single actor in cinema history, tied to a famous franchise, that's been catered to as much as Craig has with Bond. She's often reiterated how "gorgeous" he is and yada, yada, and I definitely think that there has to be some deep attraction at play. The sausage factory that Cubby and Salzman ran, produced the historic films that we know and love in generally 2 year gaps! I mean, come on! I apologize to anyone that adores Craig's films, but neither he nor his Bond films established the legacy.

    I know you dislike Daniel Craig and Barbara Broccoli but come on. This is a bit silly even for you.

    Cubby kept Roger Moore on for years with increasingly larger salaries and talked about how attractive he was to women, but because he's a man no one assumes that there was some kind of sexual relationship between them.

    Plenty of movie stars get far more preferable treatment than Daniel Craig whether it be far bigger salaries, percentages on the gross, or even being allowed to have their scenes be filmed separately and then spliced in.

    It's easy to forget that Barbara has only ever chosen one Bond (Brosnan was her dad's pick) and from the moment he was announced until the opening of Casino Royale she was mocked and lambasted incredibly publically for it.

    Given that her tenure with him has now produced some of the highest-grossing and most critically acclaimed Bonds ever, it's understandable why she A) doesn't want to part with him and B) is keen to remind everyone that he was her choice.


    First of all, I neither dislike Daniel nor Barbara because I don't know them personally. It's possible that we would get along swimmingly. Second, I just remarked that Barbara appears smitten with Daniel, not that they have a sexual relationship...

    Aside from a few entries, the Bond series has almost always produced high grossing films. I'm not implying that Craig's entries haven't been successful, only that they're from a period where prices are inflated on everything, including cinema tickets.

    My whole point is that there hasn't been a single Bond actor to receive as much leeway in regards to scheduling, while being given a producer role, and a ridiculous advance. I personally don't buy that he came back because there needed to be an "end" to the story arc. We all know that SPECTRE was supposed to be the end, and the film's finale establishes this fact. If the writers had a strong grasp of a continuation, there wouldn't have been 5 or 6 screenwriters trying to figure it out for 'NTTD.'

    I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but I'm still perplexed as to why Brosnan wasn't granted the honor of finishing up his run with a well-written and grounded outing, which he claims to have wanted, yet Craig is regarded as the only one capable of raking in a billion bucks. Craig's a great actor, and I admire him for his array of roles, but I don't see why he's so coveted by the producers in regards to being Bond. Personally, he should have finished out his story arc with Skyfall, while a more Fleming-esque successor tackled SPECTRE and Blofeld. That way, it would feel more cohesive and this version of Blofeld wouldn't had to have been so rushed.

    I think it’s as simple as this: EON was ready to move forward without Brosnan. He may have been eager to do one more, but EON clearly wanted to take a different direction and in this instance that meant finding a new actor. It would have been super easy to just do another with Brosnan, so it’s rather gutsy that they didn’t do it. And to their credit, it paid off big time. Hard to say they made a mistake with what they ultimately made in CR with Craig.
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    Walecs wrote: »

    I just came across this post as well.

    The text below says: "Ready for action - Daniel Craig as James Bond in NO TIME TO DIE. Coming to cinemas in November."

    Could we understand this as something like an official statement on the current rumors? I mean the point in time is somehow meaningful to upload this long-known production still with this text.

    On the other hand, there is no mention of which November is meant... ;)
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    China's cinemas to reopen July 20th.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chinas-cinemas-reopen-july-20-1303401

    This article fails to note that China reopened their cinemas two times since the nationwide closure in January. Both times cinemas were ordered to close down again within a week due to spikes in Covid-19 cases.

    Not to mention that they will re-open only in the safer regions.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    At least for now, they're being pretty hopeful. If everyone in America were to start wearing masks starting today, we'd get this whole thing under control by September. But that's asking way too much, and ya know, "don't infringe my freedom" nonsense.
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    There is reason to be optimistic. The Oxford vaccine is publishing its data soon in the Lancet and things are moving in a positive direction. Understandably, the UK government does not want to put all its chips on an October vaccine. However, the odds are looking good. Distribution will be key over the next 12-18 months but we're seeing things move in the right direction.....



    ....However, even if the vaccine does come in October, this still means that NTTD needs to move to 2021. That is now simply an inevitability. It's less a question of 'if' and more 'when' and 'what date.'

    The problem going into 2021 is that NTTD will run into other Universal release dates, so it'll have to navigate those waters.

    Customary logic would suggest that NTTD could get April 2021. However, Universal have already shifted Fast & Furious 9 to that date. That franchise moved for Bond before in 2020, but considering the film is ready and moved first, I don't think it'll move. Nonetheless, NTTD has been sitting on the shelf longer, so may take precedence.

    The other alternative would be to bump Jurassic World: Dominion from it's June release and give it to NTTD. That film is back in production so, in theory, should be ready for that date.

    The simple truth is that it's the wild west currently with release dates. There are no rules and no precedents to follow. Most of this discussion is purely academic, until theatres at least re-open. I suppose all eyes are on Warner this week to see how far they push Tenet. It seems that it'll take WW84's slot at this rate.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Disney analyst sees cinemas "largely closed" until Mid-2021.

    After initially expecting social distancing measures would be "significantly lessened" by late 2020, Cowen's Doug Creutz has "now extended that timeline," which will affect the company's film and theme parks units.

    "We had previously assumed that the spread of COVID-19 would be relatively halted, with social distancing requirements significantly lessened by late 2020," Creutz wrote. "We have now extended that timeline out to at least mid-2021; the situation remains very fluid, and we do not rule out the possibility that the impact could last even longer."

    Creutz said he expects "no film releases in fiscal year 2020," which for Disney ends in September, and "a modest slate" in fiscal 2021. "We now expect domestic theaters to be largely closed until mid-2021, in part because we don't think studios will be interested in releasing their largest movies into a capacity-constrained footprint."

    As far as Disney's theme parks unit goes, Creutz expects the "recovery trajectory to be pushed out at least one year." While Walt Disney World reopened "at limited capacity last weekend," he said he believes "that at best, heavy capacity constraints will prevail until at least mid-2021, and ... there is a meaningful probability that the park could be forced to close again."

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-analyst-downgrade-longer-pandemic-impact-cinemas-closed-1303411
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    There is reason to be optimistic. The Oxford vaccine is publishing its data soon in the Lancet and things are moving in a positive direction. Understandably, the UK government does not want to put all its chips on an October vaccine. However, the odds are looking good. Distribution will be key over the next 12-18 months but we're seeing things move in the right direction.....



    ....However, even if the vaccine does come in October, this still means that NTTD needs to move to 2021. That is now simply an inevitability. It's less a question of 'if' and more 'when' and 'what date.'

    The problem going into 2021 is that NTTD will run into other Universal release dates, so it'll have to navigate those waters.

    Customary logic would suggest that NTTD could get April 2021. However, Universal have already shifted Fast & Furious 9 to that date. That franchise moved for Bond before in 2020, but considering the film is ready and moved first, I don't think it'll move. Nonetheless, NTTD has been sitting on the shelf longer, so may take precedence.

    The other alternative would be to bump Jurassic World: Dominion from it's June release and give it to NTTD. That film is back in production so, in theory, should be ready for that date.

    The simple truth is that it's the wild west currently with release dates. There are no rules and no precedents to follow. Most of this discussion is purely academic, until theatres at least re-open. I suppose all eyes are on Warner this week to see how far they push Tenet. It seems that it'll take WW84's slot at this rate.

    Yeah this UK/Italian vaccine looks like to be the frontrunner. Simple truth is that no film will be released this year but the chances to save 2021 summer are high.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 440
    There is reason to be optimistic. The Oxford vaccine is publishing its data soon in the Lancet and things are moving in a positive direction. Understandably, the UK government does not want to put all its chips on an October vaccine. However, the odds are looking good. Distribution will be key over the next 12-18 months but we're seeing things move in the right direction.....



    ....However, even if the vaccine does come in October, this still means that NTTD needs to move to 2021. That is now simply an inevitability. It's less a question of 'if' and more 'when' and 'what date.'

    The problem going into 2021 is that NTTD will run into other Universal release dates, so it'll have to navigate those waters.

    Customary logic would suggest that NTTD could get April 2021. However, Universal have already shifted Fast & Furious 9 to that date. That franchise moved for Bond before in 2020, but considering the film is ready and moved first, I don't think it'll move. Nonetheless, NTTD has been sitting on the shelf longer, so may take precedence.

    The other alternative would be to bump Jurassic World: Dominion from it's June release and give it to NTTD. That film is back in production so, in theory, should be ready for that date.

    The simple truth is that it's the wild west currently with release dates. There are no rules and no precedents to follow. Most of this discussion is purely academic, until theatres at least re-open. I suppose all eyes are on Warner this week to see how far they push Tenet. It seems that it'll take WW84's slot at this rate.

    I think that if any Universal film will move to accompany Bond, it will be Jurassic World: Dominion as it's the only one of their films scheduled for 2021 that hasn't finished filming yet.
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    However, even if the vaccine does come in October, this still means that NTTD needs to move to 2021. That is now simply an inevitability.

    More blatant exaggeration (dare I say trolling?) that has no basis in reality. Here is why: many countries in Europe where cinemas have already reopened prove that you don't need vaccines to be able to reopen cinemas. All you need is permanently lower the reproduction number of the virus below 0, which is entirely feasable to do everywhere within the next few months, even in the US and Brazil. Furthermore, if the 4th delay of NTTD were an inevitability then they would have already made that 4th delay.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 625
    Just went to see the new Russell Crowe movie "Unhinged". It's already out here in Germany. The theatre was filled pretty good.
    I believe it's the first new US movie they put out overseas with a later US release date.
    Could be possible, that they will do it with other movies aswell.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    The_Return wrote: »
    However, even if the vaccine does come in October, this still means that NTTD needs to move to 2021. That is now simply an inevitability.

    More blatant exaggeration (dare I say trolling?) that has no basis in reality. Here is why: many countries in Europe where cinemas have already reopened prove that you don't need vaccines to be able to reopen cinemas. All you need is permanently lower the reproduction number of the virus below 0, which is entirely feasable to do everywhere within the next few months, even in the US and Brazil. Furthermore, if the 4th delay of NTTD were an inevitability then they would have already made that 4th delay.

    The first delay was rather inevitable and yet they allowed tickets to be sold before opting to delay the film by several months mere days later. I'll be shocked if this film keeps its current date.
  • RedNineRedNine Poland
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The_Return wrote: »
    However, even if the vaccine does come in October, this still means that NTTD needs to move to 2021. That is now simply an inevitability.

    More blatant exaggeration (dare I say trolling?) that has no basis in reality. Here is why: many countries in Europe where cinemas have already reopened prove that you don't need vaccines to be able to reopen cinemas. All you need is permanently lower the reproduction number of the virus below 0, which is entirely feasable to do everywhere within the next few months, even in the US and Brazil. Furthermore, if the 4th delay of NTTD were an inevitability then they would have already made that 4th delay.

    The first delay was rather inevitable and yet they allowed tickets to be sold before opting to delay the film by several months mere days later. I'll be shocked if this film keeps its current date.
    And yet they were one of the firsts to delay their movie
  • Posts: 625
    RedNine wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The_Return wrote: »
    However, even if the vaccine does come in October, this still means that NTTD needs to move to 2021. That is now simply an inevitability.

    More blatant exaggeration (dare I say trolling?) that has no basis in reality. Here is why: many countries in Europe where cinemas have already reopened prove that you don't need vaccines to be able to reopen cinemas. All you need is permanently lower the reproduction number of the virus below 0, which is entirely feasable to do everywhere within the next few months, even in the US and Brazil. Furthermore, if the 4th delay of NTTD were an inevitability then they would have already made that 4th delay.

    The first delay was rather inevitable and yet they allowed tickets to be sold before opting to delay the film by several months mere days later. I'll be shocked if this film keeps its current date.
    And yet they were one of the firsts to delay their movie

    As I remember they were THE FIRST.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2020 Posts: 15,718
    For those who keep saying that NTTD being 4 months away, so there is still plenty of time for global situation to improve:

    NTTD was delayed on March 4th, the first major release to postpone its release due to the pandemic. That was 135 days ago, just under 4.5 months. We are now 126 days away from the US release date. In 3 days there will be exactly 4 months left.

    The situation has not improved one bit since. As a matter of fact, it has gotten a lot worse. And it is still getting worse. Daily cases in the US will reach 80,000 by next week. The worst day of previous peak in April/May 'only' had 39,000 new cases. We have already doubled that number in this second peak, and these numbers show no sign of slowing down. Cases are currently surging in 41 out of the 50 US states. The daily death-toll has also started to rise again.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Honestly @DaltonCraig007 thanks for keeping it real. It helps prepare me for when they push it back again, because at least I’ll have expected it and never thought to myself that it may improve soon.

    It’s really a shame because the November date was a very reasonable choice to go with at the time the film got delayed, when we had more time to combat the virus if people had just taken it more seriously. But no, people are selfish and stupid, and it doesn’t help that the US has a leader that enables that behavior.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    Bond isn't the only one who is getting trickier as I said last Jedi / JW fallen kingdom/avengers age of Ultron/fast and furious 8 all were disappointing than the their previous but it fascinates me that you are only able to point out about Craig films and I didn't just stated facts but also pointed out current and 2019 environment especially ticket inflation.

    Why do some of us always feel the need to "compare" the Bondmovies to other franchises?

  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    “Unlike a lot of other studio pictures, there is no ticking clock on debts, and therefore, no rush to release a film in a less than optimal marketplace.“

    “Optimal” could mean even a 60th Anniversary in the worst case scenario.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    matt_u wrote: »
    “Unlike a lot of other studio pictures, there is no ticking clock on debts, and therefore, no rush to release a film in a less than optimal marketplace.“

    “Optimal” could mean even a 60th Anniversary in the worst case scenario.

    Do you really seriously believe that they will wait until 2022?
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Bond isn't the only one who is getting trickier as I said last Jedi / JW fallen kingdom/avengers age of Ultron/fast and furious 8 all were disappointing than the their previous but it fascinates me that you are only able to point out about Craig films and I didn't just stated facts but also pointed out current and 2019 environment especially ticket inflation.

    Why do some of us always feel the need to "compare" the Bondmovies to other franchises?

    Are you seriously responding to almost 2 year old comment? And when people compare bond to other spy or action franchise why can't we?
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Bond isn't the only one who is getting trickier as I said last Jedi / JW fallen kingdom/avengers age of Ultron/fast and furious 8 all were disappointing than the their previous but it fascinates me that you are only able to point out about Craig films and I didn't just stated facts but also pointed out current and 2019 environment especially ticket inflation.

    Why do some of us always feel the need to "compare" the Bondmovies to other franchises?

    Are you seriously responding to almost 2 year old comment? And when people compare bond to other spy or action franchise why can't we?

    1) I didn't notice it's a 2 year old comment
    2) I meant in terms of "this 4th of that franchise was bad, so another 4th movie in another franchise might also be bad".

    All spy franchises are influenced by Bond and should be compared to "him", not the other way around.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    JamesCraig wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    Bond isn't the only one who is getting trickier as I said last Jedi / JW fallen kingdom/avengers age of Ultron/fast and furious 8 all were disappointing than the their previous but it fascinates me that you are only able to point out about Craig films and I didn't just stated facts but also pointed out current and 2019 environment especially ticket inflation.

    Why do some of us always feel the need to "compare" the Bondmovies to other franchises?

    Are you seriously responding to almost 2 year old comment? And when people compare bond to other spy or action franchise why can't we?

    1) I didn't notice it's a 2 year old comment
    2) I meant in terms of "this 4th of that franchise was bad, so another 4th movie in another franchise might also be bad".

    All spy franchises are influenced by Bond and should be compared to "him", not the other way around.

    That's no excuse even bond get's influenced from other film's throughout decades, FRWL from North by NorthWest, TMWTGG by Kung Fu film's, license to kill by Miami vice, Craig's bond is heavily influenced by Bourne and Batman. So there will always be some comparison, i don't see why it's wrong?
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