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Callum whom, @Denbigh?
I'm certainly not counting on a return to "safer" candidates to happen. I expect they will continue down the path with edgy choices from now on.
Ah, yes. I don't think I quite see Bond with this guy myself. I much prefer him to someone like Chalamet of course (where does that suggestion come from anyway?), but still. Then again, I don't see Bond when I see Craig either. A modern day Red Grant type, yes, but not Bond.
The way he's been mentioned lately, I thought this thread had found a new Aidan Turner!
Oh damn, yeah, it's time for some Turner again ;)
Cause I just love it when people react negatively to an obvious choice, just as they once did to a roguish different one. #jamesbondnotflemingbond, #jamesbondnotwhite, #jamesbondnotdarkhaired,...
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haha, yeah. But alphabetically, this one wins ;)
But I can see this other guy ageing well, my friend.
Yeah, I hadn't seen it here before. The other's been on repeat since page 1, probably ;)
Another good candidate I often suggest here is Theo James.
*Oh no! X_X
*(I'm not against Aidan Turner though, but he's being hyped up like a Connery 2.0 at times)
lol, yes. But there's no Connery 2.0 There'll never be. Although I reckon Aidan Turner could do a fine job.
I thought you of all people would appreciate a more classic choice like this. He does remind of Connery. Even his assertiveness and confidence as Ross Poldark, his voice, his eyebrows, and his demeanour.
It’s also a role that wouldn’t appeal to all actors. I don’t think Timothee Chalamet would be interested in taking on a well established, franchise role. With a multi picture contract. For me he tucks none of the boxes for the role. As a potential villain down the track. Sure.
A.Turner has the looks and charisma. And he’s not a bad actor at all. But his body of work in film is very limited. He’s not done anything that a studio or EON could say has made him a box office draw. I’m sure he’d make a descent Bond. I’m not so sure the gamble would be taken, by those in power.
When I said edgy it doesn’t just mean looking different either. It means having done cool stuff, that really shows you can live up to the lofty standard Craig set in terms of acting ability. Turner has one of the weaker CVs in that regard imo. TV drama in itself isn’t a bad thing, but there’s a difference between something like Our Friends in the North and something like Poldark. He’s got to appeal to the same producers who cast Craig. Not just Bond fans who think he’s got the look, and middle aged women who watch his bland historical dramas because they fancy him.
He might have a chance but it’s all about how he plays it imo. He’ll probably have most of the next decade to be fair, so plenty of time. But I think he needs to show he can actually follow Craig as an actor if he wants a shot. Pick the right projects. Go for BAFTAs/BIFAs rather than NTAs (and Poldark hasn’t even won one of those for a few years, the fevour around him already seems to be dying down).
I don’t think we’ll see Bond 26 for a long time. Latter half of the decade, 2026 at the absolute earliest. I’m not proper keen on this being the new norm, but if it’s what it takes to avoid them selling to a big studio who will suck the magic out of it, then I’m fine with that.
Yeah you need someone who's been proven to be a strong lead in a movie.
It's a bit like how they cast the villains: they don't just get anyone who looks a bit bad, they get big actors who have impressed. They didn't get Christoph Waltz because they thought he'd look good with a scar and a cat: they got him because he'd been a chilling villain in other movies like Inglorious Basterds. No, it doesn't work every time because it's an art not a science, but even so you don't get an unknown in their first movie to be the main baddie, so you certainly don't do the same with Bond.
I was just thinking about him the other day. I used to not take him seriously because he seemed too boyish and I only associated him with those teen dystopian films. But he has matured and grown up a bit. I was watching an interview of him the other day and he has a low, almost Connery-esque voice. I watched a couple episodes of some period TV drama and he was playing a more manly character, and he has definitely gone up my list. I think we have to consider the actors we previously thought were too boyish (Hoult, Theo James, maybe Tom Hughes) as they age and mature.
And that is the problem this thread is constantly circling:
You need somebody who has shown they "have it", but can't go with somebody for Bond who is already too big.
Hollywood has basically killed the "medium movie". Everything that used to be a character driven 90-120 minute film for people over the age of 20 is now stretched to 8 hours and made a limited series. Therefore, we are in very short supply of actors who have shown they can lead a movie (or three) on their own, but haven't fully broken through and/or aren't under contract to play somebody wearing spandex in their free time for 6 movies.
Is there any doubt Layer Cake would either be a 5-episode mini-series or simply not made in 2020?
An important point.
@Benny have any of the Bond's been a 'box office draw' prior to their casting by EON?
Connery wasn't overly well known, Lazenby had never acted. Roger Moore was a TV star, but not really a film one. Dalton was known as a theater actor. Pierce was, like Roger, known for TV. And Craig had only really been the lead in a couple of small films.
It's probably the period setting, but I'd rather look at And Then There Were None as something to measure his suitability by. Admittedly, ATTWN is a period series too, but these series that take place even further back in history do have a bit stagy(?) feel to them – and very much so in the way the characters speak.
I was on internet forums (commander bond being the main one) in the mid-2000s and I followed Bond casting discussions closely. People discussed it in depth just like we're doing now. There were hundreds of pages of it with everyone throwing out the names of every British actor under the sun and posting pics, and everyone debating (is he too famous, does he look like Bond, can a black actor be Bond, etc). It's true Daniel Craig was never mentioned at all for quite a long time, (somewhat surprising since he at least did have a role in Road to Perdition, but he looked very un-bond-like in that), but he did start to be discussed on the message boards up closer to the end. I remember quite a bit of arguing about whether or not he looked like Bond in the months leading to the announcement (most were of the opinion he did not at all). So when he was finally announced, it wasn't completely out of the blue for those of us on the boards.
I've been touting Jack Lowden for ages on here. He really does tick every box. I really believe it'll be him.
I'd say, yes.
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Strangely edited video with an awful music, but...