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I get what you mean. Really do.
Not only that but an additional issue (unless they reboot every time there is a new actor now) lends credibility to that stupid James Bond code name theory .
My thought is if Fassbender was cast tomorrow in The Hildebrand Rarity M could make mention to the event of No Time to die or skyfall and we all would know ok they are the same character just different actors you can’t really do that of John Boyegna is 007
On pics alone: first one I can't see it, but on the second yes, I could.
My man! I also think of another British literary character that I think - the people who'd switch Bond's race or gender, wouldn't do for this one - Harry Potter! I highly doubt it anyone would cast a little Indian or Chinese as Harry! Or perhaps John Boyega could be a grown up Harry?! Yeah, I don't think so...
Couldn't agree more with you, @Univex!
We have had this discussion before, but if Nomi is 007 at the end of NTTD then if they revert to Bond being 007 in the next film then some critics and cultural commentators, maybe even most of them, will consider it to be a backwards move. EON have shot themselves in the foot here and will incur the wrath of those who want to move on and see Bond finished. I came across an article yesterday that was basically making the case that if the series is going to continue then it should be with Nomi as the lead.
Of course, EON don't have to listen, and nor will they, but it does make it doubly harder to release a film where the public appetite for it is going to be deliberately targeted by those who want to push the progressive agenda.
Of course, we don't know how it will all pan out, but Bond traditionally couldn't be more opposed to the way that culture is viewed in the West at the moment. In many ways it has always faced this sort of criticism - even Fleming did - but it's hotter now that ever before.
For the record - other than I cannot stand the plot of NTTD and wish they had buried SP and never referred to it again, I have no issue with a black woman playing 007 in this particular narrative, it makes sense regarding what they appear to have planned for the storyline. But I do think they are playing a dangerous game.
I know people are ok with the superhero trope of having multiple variations of the character floating around at the same time, but personally I don't want that for Bond. If NTTD is the end of Bond as 007, then rebooting will just look like, to a lot of people, the franchise has gone backwards by having another white man playing the role.
Anyway, one thing this particular thread has taught me is that the options for who plays Bond in the future are an absolute shower. It's just a parade of those too old, too famous, too posh, too puny, and too young.
The future is not looking bright for me, I'm afraid.
I've mentioned him before. He has the look no doubt and he's a great actor. Could do very well in a screentest.
They all look pretty rotten to me. All of them could play him, but do it well? I am not sure. The ones who would do a good/safe job are probably too old or famous (Fassbender, Cavill, etc).
Either way, like I have said elsewhere, I am sincerely happy if other fans are optimistic. I am hoping my predictions turn out to be wrong.
Also, I still think, even if it may not seem like it to some, it's easy to imagine actors like Cavill and Fassbender because they've basically already played the role in another form.
Exactly. Dalton was a soft reboot, but there was no need to mention such.
It worked just fine.
Just carry on. Ignore the current ‘trend’ of having to reintroduce and ‘spoon feed’ everyone and everything.
The audience knows the score. It’s a reimagining of the same character. Allow for grand entrance in the pre-title sequence....then business as usual after the title sequence.
Yes, I think that is a fair comment.
Obviously I don't know what any actors you (and others) have suggested can do as Bond, but despite some of these names being good actors, and sort of looking in the part in that they fit a particular physical description and are British, none of them really have much charisma. For me, anyway.
I think that Aidan Turner has a sort of sleazy charm, to be fair. And Hoult has some charisma to him. Other than that I am not impressed at all.
I don't want Idris Elba to be Bond, but you can see why his name cropped up given he has buckets of charisma. Something the others (bar Fassbender and Cavill) are lacking.
Exactly. I agree. But ‘The Batman’ is out next year....which looks like another (yawn) reboot origin story. If that is successful it’ll be noted in ‘Lemming Land’ (aka Hollywood).
Although that's actually not an origin story. It's a second year Batman story that is more an origin story for the villains, but still focuses on the characterisation of a Bruce Wayne in that point of his life - from what they've said so far anyway. But I do agree, that if it's incredibly successful, we could have another Batman influence on our hands - which could be a good or bad thing.
I'm really not spamming...I'm being very serious.
I see the franchise at a crossroads with two choices:
I'm much more excited at the notion of the first option...
In that respect, I think Eon are going to conscious that they will need an actor that the internet loves and (most important of all) directors will want to work with!
Currently, Timothee Chalamet is adrift with no franchise. Dune may not be a hit. But he might fancy himself a Leonardo DiCaprio sort that doesn't need a franchise. But he's a talent and if Eon aren't quick, they could loose a serious talent. Just watch him in this terrific scene from The King...
I picture him more as a villain. Perhaps in the Boris or Truman-Lodge mold?
Yes! Better yet!
TC as a villain is a good shout.
If you want to make the case for Chalamet, then you need to post more pics and clips from him in The King rather than all those other images of him poncing about on the red carpet dressed in goodness knows what and with his regular stupid hairstyle. If people had only seen him in The King then the push back against him would be nowhere near as strong. He's superb in it, and you could easily see a performance as Bond in him.
At the same time, he would still need to fill out and age before it is even remotely appropriate. What you do about his height is anyone's guess.
Currently it is, as @Denbigh repeatedly suggests, far more likely he'd be a villain.
That wasn't a dig at you by the way, @Denbigh
And despite my opinion on him as 007, he is really good in The King.
I know I just wrote a long thing about being more open minded and progressive. But he is FRENCH. James Bond is not French!
I would take Emily Blunt before someone named Chalamet.
Might as well get a Russian or German, while we're at it. Or one of the guys from BTS if you want internet clout. They look good in a dinner jacket!
And they're not FRENCH!