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Smith is a fanboy, just like you and I. ;-) And he can get tears in his eyes from seeing something done by Batman, even in a comic book. But man, so can I. My girlfriend sometimes looks at me funny when I'm crying at the end of The Flashpoint Paradox and unsuccessfully trying to hide it from her. ;-)
That said, Smith can be critical too. His first review of The Dark Knight Rises wasn't at all positive, and neither were his initial responses to MOS or BvS. Like me, he has serious issues with Batman Returns from start to finish. And one of his earlier reviews of The Dark Knight Returns Pt. 1 was, surprisingly enough, not a pure love song either (though his impressions changed quickly.) But Kevin has a soft heart for these things and in the end, he will get excited over the smallest details, pretty much like myself.
Bernardin, in my opinion, is the better story analyst of the two. He always figures out contradictions, continuity errors and flaws in the writing, motivations of characters... In that sense, he's almost as good a detective as Batman. There are times when I disagree with him, but usually, I have to admit that he has a solid point to make, even if that doesn't necessarily take away all the fun for me.
As a duo, they can be powerful reviewers who speak from the heart and mind of true fans (unlike Siskel and Ebert way back when), but with one praising all the exciting stuff like a supergeek and the other one maintaining a critical line of thinking which is focused on not overlooking some important flaws.
I would say that despite the flaws of the newly christened Snyder-verse, there are a great many things that it did get right that are worth sticking with, even before the recent release of Justice League. That likely is a big part of it.
TDKR is very flawed though I watch it the most, BB is my favourite. Regarding TDKR and many other films how I feel when I watch them can in my mind forgive a lot.
Snyder is a visual story teller and as a collector of art/antiques/memorabilia etc I connect with visuals often more than dialog.
Snyder is second to none with expressing so much story in a single frame.
This is why I respect Snyder as a film maker.
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I only realised yesterday Stallone is voicing King shark.
That is brilliant.
Some other examples here, I like the death scene mirroring Excalibur.
And i never thought id write this,but what made it better was the proper Man Of Steel theme being played at that moment rather than the inappropriate John Williams score that Whedon used ( Love the Williams theme,but its tailored to Christopher Reeves Superman,not Henry Cavills ).
#Restorethesnyderverse
Fantastic!
The future missus Dimi watched JL TSC with me this afternoon for a second time. She must really love me because she doesn't necessarily register as a hardcore DC fan, so four hours is quite the commitment. And yet, she likes this one better than MOS and BvS, despite me having to clarify lots of things during the film. :-D
One more thing: as we were talking about the Snyder films, I explained to her why I love one of the first scenes in BvS so much. When we see people running away from a cloud of dust (from a collapsing building), we also see Bruce Wayne running right into it. See, and that's what I absolutely adore about Batman! You can call him crazy, but he takes all those risks just to save one or two people. Affleck shows such stamina and determination in that moment. And yes, I get emotional when I see things like that.
Basically continuing the things that did work when Snyder was in charge and discarding the rest, and just focusing on making stand-alone stories rather than interconnected ones like Marvel. That especially works better so to give each filmmaker the freedom to tell their stories without having to check with others on how it’ll connect.
For example, how did Harley Quinn end up where she’s at in THE SUICIDE SQUAD in regards to how BIRDS OF PREY ended? We’ll probably not get an answer, because that’s not important.
I do think if Affleck really wanted it, he would have gotten his solo Batman film but aside from brief additional shootings of JL and playing a brief supporting role in THE FLASH, it seems he’s more willing to tie up loose ends rather than keep the role. He’s pushing 50 and has recovered from alcoholism after a bad marriage, no need to put more pressure on him.
I hope they continue it. The dark and edgy style that comes with his films are a nice contrast to the lighter DC and Marvel stuff.
There’s a reason Snyder released pictures of his white boards laying out his original plan for the DCEU: He knows it’s not happening. You don’t spoil your entire storyline on the internet if you think you actually have a chance making it. And why would WB want to invest in more movies that are already spoiled online?
Given that Affleck is moving on with his career, Cavill is being replaced, and Fisher burned bridges, that boat has sailed on.
https://www.cbr.com/restorethesnyderverse-fans-are-review-bombing-godzilla-vs-kong/
I mean... I kind of don't blame them for acting out. Review bombing a movie is obviously a horrible way to go about it but lets be honest here; WB themselves ruined Justice League (2017) and Suicide Squad with their incessant meddling. There wouldn't even be these cries for director's cuts had the director's been able to put their vision together in the first place. They created this sh*tstorm themselves.
Tim Burton claimed making the Batman's was one of the worst experiences of his life because of WB. They then ran Batman into the ground by camping it up for toy companies instead of caring about plot, characters and tone.
If the movie stinks, they ignore it. If the movie makes money but critics devour it, they bury it. If it's successful, they will either micromanage it to oblivion or replot to copy Marvel.
They need to do their own thing and stop being reactionary. The fans are vocal and are willing to throw money at them. I say do what you have planned but carve a space to deliver what they want as well. If it goes small scale like mini or event series for streaming, so be it. It's still something.
And as far as Snyder's future plans go, he has already stated he would go in a different direction with sequels. That is probably why he spoke to the old plans.
That said, WB was also stupid to have JL fast tracked for production literally a month after BvS was released, because there was no time to process what happened and everything was locked in.
But that’s all in the past now. WB now has a more promising future (aside from JJ Abrams)
If they shouldn’t be reactionary then they shouldn’t pander to these weird fans.
I’m glad folks enjoyed the new JL but to be honest even making it sets a bit of a weird precedent. Now these people think they’re part of the process.
Lol. Yeah, I know what you mean. But they felt threatened and rushed everything and sort of forget they also have unique characters and a very opulent universe as well.
Oddly i am looking forward to seeing this? Possibly because it made me laugh a lot! :))
Pretty much.
I've mainly lost any serious interest in the MCU now because of how reliant a lot of the stories are on plot threads from ten years ago in prior films. It worked up to a point, I think. But I prefer standalone storytelling, if given the choice.
I would like future DC films to follow that approach. Nods and cameos are cool though, obviously.
I have been working all week and still managed to watch JL several time (sometimes playing in the background), I think it says a lot for the pacing of the film.
Snyder's JL may have done better at the cinema than WB initially thought it would have because of the pacing, despite a lengthy run time which allegedly WB were not happy with.
I am sure many will disagree though Batfleck is my favourite Bruce/Batman for many reasons. Bruce running towards the danger in BvS is great scene.
I love moments when a comic book character despite not being suited up the alter ego comes to the forefront or the facade drops.
Chris Reeve in Superman The Movie when he removes his glasses as Clark Kent whilst in Lois apartment, his posture completely changes, he almost tells Lois the truth, is a great example.
About Reeve... When Cavill does the
I can agree to that to a point. It's definitely paced better than its runtime would suggest, but I'd still excise a half an hour or so. Four hours is too long for theater viewing.
For a theatrical release, Snyder would have had to cut it down to three hours or less, IDEALLY with the footage he had already shot. However, even if he hadn’t left the project in 2017, he still would have had to deal with all the mandates that Whedon faced such as the two hour limit, reshooting with a mustached Cavill and bloated Affleck, etc.
Ironically, leaving the project in 2017 was probably the best thing to ever happen to the film because it was part of what got the ball rolling with #ReleaseTheSnyderCut.
But there are some pretty bad moves in their track record also:
I'm not saying others would have done better. And I am quite satisfied with most of the films in the DC Universe. It's just that when WB interferes and goes 'stupid', it goes 'stupid' in a big bad way. The Donner thing is Warner's biggest sin, I think. I know they only distributed the Superman movies, but they could and should have put way more pressure on the Salkinds to keep Donner onboard.
There are a few call backs to Donner when Clark is on the Kent farm in JL, one being his embrace with his mother very similar to Superman the Movie.
Yeah agree, I should have stated that it still would have been an cut down version theatrically despite the good pacing.