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In fact, KNIVES OUT had to deal with this issue too because they were Star Wars nerds review bombing it on IMDb and RT. There were reviews like “this is a ploy by Kathleen Kennedy to fix Rian Johnson’s career and make everyone forget he destroyed Star Wars! Don’t be fooled!!!”
DNA isn't altered. Its meant to be a way to only kill the intended target. And to get their DNA you'd have to do the legwork he describes in his speech to C.
The internet can be a truly evil environment...
With hindsight I think it prepared me for the ending and I accepted it without question.
NTTD has succeeded in the latter, for sure, and that is not a bad thing.
It was perfect.
I didn't read any spoilers, but hearing all the talk of the "earth shattering", "fan dividing" plot twist, it wasn't hard to guess what it probably was. It was still an incredibly powerfull moment although I was mentally prepared for it.
It was by accident that I found out, not on this site but on YouTube, a random thumbnail appeared on my suggestions feed that gave away the ending.
To be honest when I knew there was a OHMSS reference to the film a thought that went through my mind was that they could do a reversal of Bond and Tracy's fate with Bond and Madeline.
I honestly think that if I'm going to walk away happy with the decision (or whatever description that leaves me feeling at least OK or understanding of the choice), it'll be because I knew about it beforehand and had time to mentally prepare and debate it, oddly enough. I hope I'm right.
Exactly. That's my problem too. And unlike others i can not see the beauty in it.
I was spoiled against my will the day before and I'm pretty sure it was a blessing in disguise.
That's one perspective. The best art in history promotes ideals, it doesn't disturb people.
So, anyone who dares to criticise this film or are negative of it are "beta males who just see Bond as a personal stand in and represent a time when the hero wins without any or little effort. These are often the kind of people who have no purpose and thrust in life and think that the only way that they can succeed is that everyone else looses. And they become resentful and angry if anyone outshines the them." I am gobsmacked. Here's me thinking I was a rounded individual, family, friends, enjoy cinema, play sport, have a couple of beers at the weekend etc etc - when in fact I am a beta male with no purpose and thrust in life. And why, because I didn't rate NTTD.
I am away to break the sad news to my missus..
I don't know why - give how emotional I've been all week - but I laughed out loud at that first sentence.
I had a swell of emotion building up to it, my eyes welled up in the cinema. Though I was emotionally locked into the film from the pre titles, which surprised me as SP really left a sour taste for me.
Credit to the film makers for making me care so quickly.
When the film ended I thought I am so glad I saw NTTD at the cinema (Plus it keeps my run going since OP I have watched every bond film at the cinema since then).
He's the creepiest and most deranged of all Craig's villains and the scariest thing is that he truly believes to be a good man. He has this insane view of the world, of free will, of love. He literally saw death with his own eyes, he saw his mother dying horribly in front of him and once he saved Madeleine, he started to believe he could play God. It's not your typical evil mastermind and I just loved that he offered Bond a peaceful deal to settle things between the two of them. When he's on screen there's always that unpredictable feeling about him that makes his scenes extremely tense. He has an overall little screen time but his presence is heavily felt throughout the whole film. His last scene is just beautiful and Malek's acting is incredible in his final moments. It's also cool that his men refer to him as doctor.
I wish someone would have done that for me. I witnessed the end totally unprepared. And i don't want to feel something like that ever again at the end of a movie.
The most gruesome cinema experience of my life.
I enjoyed him. He was a bit underused, but he wasn't bland, and I rather liked Malek's performance. I particularly liked the imagery at the start with the mask, and the broken mask later. It does take the film a little bit away from 'gritty' reality, but I think Bond needs those kind of visuals.
I hate Bond in a team concept structure (like the last 30 mins of Spectre). Is it like that in NTTD? God I miss the days of Casino Royale.
Yeah, it's unbelievable to me how the producers sat on this ending for two years and didn't think that maybe killing an ageless hero was a horrible idea. It's irrelevant that Craig's Bond was its own timeline. Just the fact that they made a movie were Bond gets killed is something that can affect the overall perception of the series as a whole.
What if Bond had been killed in the 70s or 90s? Wouldn't that have basically just ended everyone's enjoyment of the series right then and there? One of the reasons why the series worked was because Bond DIDN'T ever die, so I don't buy all these arguments about how moving on is easier now. Wasn't it always easy? Just get a new actor. There's no continuity-related justification for why Bond needed to be killed off other than for shock value.
I also don't agree that this all started with Casino Royale. That movie set up a series which we never really got. CR was supposed to be an origin movie. At the end, he's Bond. Except we never got any of those movies of Craig's Bond being cool, suave, and badass, only dealing with emotional issues, trust issues, constantly quitting and going rogue, always bouncing back to "he's not really 007" at the start of each new movie. They essentially rebooted Craig with each movie and it got annoying really fast. CR is the only Craig movie that nearly everyone loves and even that's ruined by NTTD.
I honestly cannot see how they can possibly make any more movies after this. And why would they? Part of Bond's appeal was his immortal image. The producers have destroyed that, unless they retcon it somehow.
1 CR
= NTTD
3 QoS
4 SF
5 SP
They make movies, because his appeal is not immortality, its $$$. Thankfully, that means he will be coming back. Also thankfully, the chances of him being killed again any time soon are pretty slim.
Right. I’m willing to bet the new Bond won’t be seen killed. In fact, any future Bond promoting their last film will have major anticipation among fans on his ultimate fate.
What would be intriguing is if a Bond actor agrees to only two films, but EON never announce his second will be his final. That would be even more shocking.
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Exactly my feelings!