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Hence “I never left”
https://www.cracked.com/article_31560_no-time-to-die-feels-like-a-15-year-old-superhero-movie.html
I must say that the eveidence is quite convincing.
If you really think that, I suspect I have a bridge you may want to buy.
People's opinions to the relative "success" or "failure" of this film have been a bit surprising to me. In the past, when EON put out a Bond film I didn't care much for --most recently, with Spectre-- I didn't root for it to fail miserably at the box office. I just hoped that the next one would be more to my liking. This time around, things are indeed in an "Everything or Nothing" mode. Many folks who didn't like the ending to NTTD, want to see nothing more from the heirs of Cubby Broccoli. I can't say that I have a great deal of sympathy for that position.
I do indeed believe that Eon Productions will be casting a new fellow in the role of 007, and coming out with Bond 26 just a few years down the road. How exactly they're going to grapple with the issue of continuity I have no idea and I don't care to waste much time on the topic unless Michael G and Barbara B start offering me enormous sums of money to do so. (Scant chance of that!) But I do think the days of $300 million + production budgets are in things of the past and rightly so. James Bond will return, and I plan on being in the theater when he does. I trust the vast majority of you will join me.
Please point me to the section of my post, or any of my posts, where I'm rooting for the movie to fail at the box office. Or even that I didn't like the ending. Go ahead.
It goes without saying that we are not talking about the technical and operational details of being a secret agent, they are as mundane and boring in the 21st Century as they were in the 1950s.
But whether or not the public trusts the establishment, surely secret agents must still believe in what they are doing and trust their employers in order to function effectively?
On that most basic level at least Bond should conform?
The idea that the World's secret agents are all out there either resigning, going rogue, being betrayed and going AWOL, or retiring during every mission is stretching things too far in my opinion.
I'm not concerned about Bond 26 following trends or setting trends or taking things too far compared to fiction or real life.
I think I would only be upset if they went back to pure 70s camp Moore style films (and I do love me some Moore Bond movies). Or they they made the next one a Casino Royale reboot. No need to touch that story for more than a decade from now. Just my feelings on that.
Please point me to the section of my post where I'm accusing you, specifically, of ANYthing.
I have seen the film four times noew. I have not seen many kids or teenagers, but my experience in general is that there are people of all ages present.
FYI: From Bill Koenig’s Blog (posted 10/17/2021):
In the U.S., there are indications that No Time to Die drew an older audience. Matthew Beloni of Puck News, a former Hollywood Reporter editor, wrote the following in a newsletter last week:
Have you seen those exit numbers on No Time to Die? Just 20 percent of opening weekend audience was under 25, compared to 41 percent for Spectre in 2015. Yikes. This franchise will grow old and die unless young people are given a reason to care.
Unless worldwide attendance goes back to 2019 level Hollywood can't sustain itself on high budget films. The revenue isn't there so my guess is the collapse of cinema is imminent. Well it's already here. Coronavirus has killed off profit.
Bond 26 looks certain to be straight to streaming? I guess so. I see no financial reason why Amazon will greenlight Bond 26 if it is financially impossible for the film to make profit at the box office.
I saw some children today. They didn't seem happy though... 😅
I think 2021 will be the most significant chapter in the history of film since the invention of sound and colour. I reckon it is the beginning or the middle of the end of big budget theatrical releases because coronavirus has wiped out around 50 percent or more of attendance and profit.
Eon can say "Amazon have assured us Bond will remain a theatrical-only release" but that pledge (which may not be a contractual stipulation) will be meaningless if NTTD is 400 - 500 million dollars short of breaking even. Amazon will be crazy to release Bond 26 in cinemas if the overall box office remains at a 50 percent or so deficit. Imho Bond 26 will never get a theatrical release because the profit margin is unobtainable.
I think the film industry is in denial. All the films are loss makers at the box office. Only one film this year has crossed 500 million. It's catastrophic for the studios. They'll never admit it of course. Likewise, Eon will never admit releasing NTTD in September/October was a huge mistake but we all know the box office (worldwide, not in the UK which has been very impressive) was never going to get to 900 million. F9 failed to get there. My guess the only film to have a chance to break 800 will be Spider-man No Way Home but who knows if it will?
Every Bond fan will have to pray box office attendance goes back to 2019 type numbers otherwise there will never be another Bond film released in the cinemas. Amazon are not going to cut the budget (say around 100 million) to justify a theatrical release if they believe a 250 million streaming release is a better option.
I don't think anyone viewed Connery-Bond or Moore-Bond as "too subservient"
But this trend has been going on since the Vietnam war divided the US, although it took a decade or two longer to filter into the World of James Bond, with the arrival of Dalton-Bond
So after over half a century of "the rebel rules" surely it should be becoming passe by now?
Bourne never "goes rogue", since he appeared on screen he's always rogue, it's his whole raison d'être
Mission Impossible often like to have their "rogue cake" and eat it to, by having rival good and bad US government agencies in the same story.
Superhero's are by their nature outsiders, but Marvel even decided to turn Captain America, of all people, into a rebel, and loose cannon playboy Tony Stark, of all people, into the establishment figure (IMO the Ironman I enjoyed was dead long before "End Game")
There have always been cool rebels as part of the landscape, but they used to be balanced out by more orthodox figures who could also be cool
Not anymore
“When I woke up from the ice, they told me we won the war. They didn’t tell me what we lost.”
About the audience: Most of the attendees I saw in my 2 viewings were in their 30s to their 50s. Some younger, yes - but not many clearly 60+.
This is why I think the next actor will be a relative unknown. Forget your Tom Hardy's or Henry Cavil's.
Younger audiences chose Venom instead of Bond, which is not surprising.
On a side note, I think some here have lost all sense of proportion when critiquing NTTD. It's not a crime to point out the movie's shortcomings, nor does it indicate a desire to see the movie fail at the BO. I for one, don't want to see any Bond movie fail at the BO, not even when it was DAD. Giving sharply defined feedback is positive, even if you don't believe everything about the movie was first-rate.
It's not so much that NTTD underperformed. Moreso that the entire film industry in 2021 is underperforming because of the pandemic.