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Ok let's ignore NTTD, the reality is that even before covid the DC movie have been very uneven in how they played in the US with SF being the standout exception (which had the perfect backdrop of the 50th anniversary and one of the great PR moments with DC and the Queen at the Olympics opening ceremony). The DC films have ranked 3rd (SF), 10th (CR), 13th (SP) 14th (QOS) and 19th (NTTD). Compare that say to the consistency of PB, who had all his films ranked in the top 1/2 - 6th (DAD), 7th (TND), 11th (TWINE) and 12th (GE). So 3 of the DC films have ranked below the worst PB film, including the past two. This, to me at least, is strongly suggestive of bigger issues than just Covid.
Where are you getting those rankings from?
I seriously doubt MGM is gonna look at the numbers and go “oh fudge, we didn’t make as much as this Bond film from 1981 when you adjust the numbers!”
SP didn't faced a pandemic and a 18 months delay.
I perfectly remember a piece by Mendelson on Forbes a couple of weeks before the first delay where he stated that NTTD was projected to end up grossing something in the $250M dollars range in NA if the film would've had a better reception than SP... and NTTD achieved that.
EDIT: Listening to the spoiler free recent podcast.
MGW said that Cubby would've been proud and happy of NTTD's ending because it represents a fitting resolution for Daniel's self contained 5 films storyline.
Cary never saw OHMSS before getting the job and it ended up loving it.
Loved this bit from Purvis: “He had nothing to live for and then found something to die for."
We're all the same, fella.
We do see what? Then they must have cut that in the German version. Or do you play that in slow motion: On all three views I just saw the detonation and then cut to the missiles hitting the island. Will check it next Thursdaxy, whe I get the DVD. Or I need to change my ophthalmologist. Not that I am keen to have gory details. In LTK the scene when Sanchez whips Lupe was also cut.
It appears we are going to have to agree to disagree on the US performance, and that's fine.
It has now been a month since I have seen the film, and to my surprise I have not been at all tempted to see it again - this is very much a 1st for me. This solidifies NTTD at the very bottom of my rankings, just behind SF, and very disappointing after the solidly-top-10 start with CR. And with talk the current production team wants to bring back CJF, I very much doubt I will bother with Bond 26 given how massively flawed their current effort is (above and beyond the ending). Fortunately I will always have the many earlier films (and novels and games) to fall back on (although even there I fear the bad taste left by the current film will limit my enjoyment of these as well, certainly for a while).
1. It was Broccoli's idea to incorporate the YOLT elements from the novel (the poison garden & killing of Blofeld), which she had Fukunaga read. And it was Wilson's idea for the DNA targeted nanobots.
2. There was a group meeting of principals in early 2017 to discuss and ultimately confirm the idea to kill Bond. Craig definitely didn't want to come back after Spectre, according to Wilson, though it's not stated outright that it was his idea or that it was a precondition for returning for B25. No mention is made of Danny Boyle.
3. Linus Sandgren was a fan as a kid who made his own (super 8 Spielberg-style?) Bond-inspired short films.
4. Broccoli, herself, casually refers to the Bond series as a "franchise".
5. PWB dismisses ideas that she was brought aboard to specifically work on the women characters. But it was Fukunaga's decision about what to use & not use. She seems to have focused on the longstanding Bondian trope of undercutting seriousness with humour, which she is well aware of, and which (she says) meshes well with her own writing style.
6. Chris Corbould says that a scene (or scenes) with the DB5 in Matera were shot that included different LED number plates (cf. GF), but which were ultimately cut from the film.
7. Someone compared the choreography in the Bond & Paloma Cuba scene to that of an Astaire & Roger's musical.
8. Set Decorator Véronique Melery went out of her way to populate scenes with references to Bond history, though no mention is made if she was instructed to do so. It was her idea to use the M portraits, at least one of which was taken from the EON archives and the other two (?) she had commissioned. A "discrete homage," she calls such touches. [And I would love to have heard more from her since I'm a sucker for this stuff.]
9. The entire creative team (and crew) are consumed (like us, though perhaps not so obsessively, lol) by Bond history.
10. Nomi was Broccoli's idea.
11. Craig was intimately involved in shaping the storyline, especially its family aspects and ending. And it sounds like a lot of creative choices were made on-set.
12. There is no hint of where EON will go next.
Blofeld being killed is a part of YOLT, yes, but he didn't die like a sucker in a prison cell. He died in a swordfight with (a completely naked, iirc) James Bond in a Japanese castle surrounded by his death garden built on top of an active volcano. WELCOME TO HELL!
This, don't be such a victim.
This is not the first time that I have run into this response. I told her that I sympathize, but I think that I talked her into giving it a try.
Not a "victim" at all - just a person with many choices as to what to do with my spare time, and will spend more time on things I genuinely enjoy now rather then spending time on the Bond "franchise" out of some misplaced feelings of nostalgia.
:P
I was like that too. I almost didn't go. It really did stop me from enjoying my first viewing, with the death on my mind the entire time. Which really sucks because how often do we get tosavor a new Bond film for the first time anymore. As it stands, I certainly love a big chunk of it, and will probably never warm to some of the big decisions made, or to length and amount of time wasted on soap opera drivel. But mainly I think I would have had a blast for most of that first viewing if it hadn't been spoiled.
I've just tried to accept that I'll never experience Bond "fresh" again unless I completely avoid movie sites and this forum for at least a few years before the release of a new installment, which is impossible for me.
In fact, I've stated it before but I think the death was easier for me to come to terms with when I knew about it in advance. Still, I wish I could've experienced that fresh, though, as I really didn't expect them to do it.
I would have been REALLY pissed. That why I intentionally self-spoiled. And I was right in my hunch. This way I came away just super-meh-ed.
I'm glad volunteers were, understandably, rather scarce.
Honest, after NTTD I would like a follow-up in the vein of Diamonds Are Forever.
The plot: James Bond Needs Revenge on Blofeld. Who cares about what happened in the previous movie! Just ham it up a bit.
I'd rather Aiden Turner just do a proper mission. Like a good adaptation of Moonraker.
uh....whatever. Enjoy.
I kind of knew when I heard Final Ascent. So I told myself I’m going to either self-spoil or get spoiled. I ended up getting spoiled by a YouTube video that was taken down fast. An enjoyable entry all in all, and I think it’s better than a lot of the films. Not quite in the top tier though due to some small nitpicks. The two people I went with loved it though.
i agree with this I would have had Skyfall connected to Quantum if only very sparingly and anticipated Obenhauser as the Number 1 of Quantum. I would have left Spectre and Blofeld alone it had become so hackneyed it was not worth rescuing.
I'm afraid a personal appearance is quite out of the question.
Indeed, I would like to have a sunnier mood or a villain like Gray's Blofeld; it would be possible to do without silly dialogue. Yes, besides the negatives, DAF also has a lot going for it.
A more relaxed sunny villain, maybe... But not Charles "It's just a jump to the left" Gray... His Blofeld is the most silly Blofeld in the whole franchise. Probably Mankiewicz and Hamilton were responsible for it. DAF IMO is - unfortunately - a rather goofy Bond film. Not the most silly villain, but very close ...