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I agree. Every actor makes it better as well.
Brett Ratner's uninspired version pales by comparison. Compare the 'Tiger' scenes and and there's just no contest.
Plus Will Petersen nails the Graham part. Ed Norton not so much...
Agreed 100%. Even the '80s score in Mann's film manages to set a strong mood that Elfman failed to create. I've seen Manhunter a good dozen times and Red Dragon only twice. The latter just doesn't motivate me to more viewings.
I watch Manhunter at least once a year. I have no interest in watching Red Dragon ever again.
But then that's the difference in talent between Michael Mann and Brett Ratner...
Ratner is the kind of guy who can competently deliver middle-of-the-week entertainment that follows rote formula. Mann sets unique moods, works with beautiful visuals, and shapes interesting characters.
I agree.
I never quite understood the term ‘dated’ either. It’s logical that films are children of the time in which they were created. I wonder why one would consider that a bad thing. I’d even say it’s a positive thing that there are these time capsules that are typical of their era, that manage to capture an atmosphere impossible to imitate today. For me ‘dated’ is a non-argument. No offense to you of course, just the way I feel about it.
Agreed.
Dr No is also 'dated' and it's a wonderful time capsule of that time.
A criticism that holds no water.
'Dated' is a term I'd use when a modern film resorts to story-telling devices, ideas or filmmaking techniques that were abandoned years ago. But an ageing film can hardly be accused of being "dated"; it's just a film that was made "back then" and that was modern "back then". Such a film is never dated, just an "old" film now.
I mentioned my thoughts aloud to my wife and she was like, “well it’s 1970 what do you expect? that’s the way things were back then.”
And I’m like, “No, by 1970 we’ve already seen The Wild Bunch, Bonnie and Clyde, and The Graduate. All much more modern than this Airport turkey, which looks more like a Doris Day/Rock Hudson flick from 1959 or 1961. The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure are much better crafted.”
So that’s my example of being “dated” in a bad way.
I misread your post at first and thought you were talking about Airplane, a "comedy" I can barely sit through. That's the kind of comedy (Police Academy, Hot Shots, pretty much every comedy with Leslie Nielsen) that I hate from the bottom of my heart.
"Surely you can't be serious...?"
"I am serious, and don't call me Shirley..!" 😄
I think they're hilarious..
From Wikipedia: The February 22, 2007 issue of Entertainment Weekly features a quote that suggests that the only reason Thomas Harris wrote the story was out of the fear that a Lecter prequel/origin story would inevitably be written without his involvement. Hannibal Rising film producer Dino De Laurentiis said "I say to Thomas, 'If you don't do [the prequel], I will do it with someone else... I don't want to lose this franchise. And the audience wants it...' He said, 'No. I'm sorry.' And I said, 'I will do it with somebody else.' And then he said, 'Let me think about it. I will come up with an idea.'"
It wouldn’t surprise me if they continued Hannibal Lecter as a book series after Thomas Harris dies. They shouldn’t.
You'd might as well rant about them being in color!
I will. 😉
They are not my kind of comedy. It feels like these films are meant to cater to the wee ones.
The kind of spoofs I hate are those like Scary Movie and Epic Movie, because they’re not only trying to play up the comedy in a way that’s unfunny and grating, but they’re also super reliant on pop culture references with no real punchline to them. It’s like, “oh here’s Borat suddenly appearing in our movie, isn’t that funny?!”
There's at least some of The Naked Gun I like, mostly because of Leslie Nielsen's ever dignified attitude, even when his character was being utterly ridiculous. But as the 90s went on, they just went for cheap laugh.
I like him in Forbidden Planet, Creepshow, and even Prom Night. He was a very good actor. But his comedy wasn't my thing.