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I couldn't agree more, bond should be about pure entertainment and thrills. That being said I want Bond 26 to a strong directorial style, that's why I think a director like Edgar Wright would be perfect. It always amazes me when people say they want a fun bond again and then their first choice as director is denis villenueve or someone that completely doesn't fit that style of film.
Some of our ranting in a nutshell.
It's just a bit of a messy rant demanding all the old stuff back again, I don't really agree with that.
But yeah, it's a pretty funny read if you've spent any time on here. Some of it feels like it's a direct copy and paste out of this thread and some others. Including the drive-by shooting at the merch store ^^
As for @Benny's comment, I agree that the long shadow of Austin Powers has faded (bar the self-inflicted Brofeld-shaped wound) and they can dare to go a bit more fantastical with the next. I think audiences are ready to see bombastic stuff again and you don't really need to do grounded anymore. The real world is wild and stupid anyway, just go with it.
But he's right that the Craig films are dull. Even if you liked Bond 25, you have to admit the film doesn't exactly leave you on a high, same goes for his whole tenure as bond. The only times you get genuinely excited is when he seems to get his mojo back for the last scene (CR/SF/SP) before promptly falling off the horse again for the next film.
I don't know what the ultimate course of Bond will be, babs has said that she wants Bond to remain human and relatable, and evolve as "men are evolving". I don't exactly understand what she means, but I do know that the audience needs and deserves a palette cleanser Bond film. We deserve AT LEAST one film where he is handed his mission and goes about his business with all the charm and flair of the old films. We deserve a chance to see bond back at the height of his bravado, and win the day and the girl again set to a triumphant rendition of the Bond theme after how Bond 25 ended.
Yeah even that's a slightly tiresome whinge. Yes, they do sell some really expensive stuff, but they also have some really quite cool T-shirts which I've bought a few of for £25. They have different price levels.
And as Mendes4Lyfe says, they're never going to make one every two years. As I say, I love John and his podcasts, I'm even a patreon subscriber, but his outlook on films is apparent from them, and that is basically: 'everything made when I was a kid is great, everything now I'm an adult is bad'.
While I enjoy a film that goes a bit deeper than just Bond finishing a mission and I wouldn't want them to never do that again I agree that at this point we are due a mission film. And while I think Bond films are exactly where creative people can interogate what it means to be a man today (even if that may mean not changing), men - and any human - don't have deeply psychologically affecting encounters with women that challenge their entire way of seeing the world every day of the week. Just as the most exciting stunt would feel tired if they repeated it every film, they don't need to have big sweeping challenges to the character's understanding of himself everytime. Sometimes a day at the office were you have to disable a super-weapon is just a day at the office...
Especially true since he literally died in the previous film. They've reached the ne plus ultra of the hard-hitting, packs an emotional punch type film there's no more territory to explore there, at least for a little while. It would be like trying to outdo die another day with a even bigger diamond space laser and CGI tsunami wave for Bond 21, it just doesn't make sense. EON have shown a great awareness of when it's time to change course in the past, I just hope they can do the same this time.
I kinda agree, but I wouldn't sight Skyfall and Bond 25 as great examples. For me the lighthearted elements have never been successfully blended with Craigs bond persona. The Cuba sequence with paloma for instance feels completely at odds with the rest of the movie. The best examples for me are OHMSS and TLD where there's been a slightly more grounded take on the character without abandoning the fantasy escapist elements and still having "fun". The Craig films, by contrast, are TOO concerned with landing that emotional punch that the added humour feels kinda unnatural and forced.
But overall, I can't blame EON for what they did with the Craig-era because for one I thoroughly enjoyed it as a whole and each one for different reasons, and because EON were obviously lead by what was successful. Casino proved that a more realistic and "emotional" take on the franchise can work for audiences and Skyfall proved that those audiences also appreciate the more classic adventure as well as those emotional stakes, which in turn gave us Spectre and No TIme To Die, which unfortunately had some issues that couldn't really be avoided.
Again I think the intention was there which is why I think now that they have a fresh start they have the perfect opportunity to strike that balance because in my eyes the answer is not to completely go in the other direction as you run the risk of creating something quite hollow. It's why I don't want the rights to the franchise to be sold because I worry that another company would create a version of the franchise that's like a cardboard cutout version of what general audiences think James Bond is.
This is a multi billion IP they’ve brought into the Amazon fold. Their films are wildly successful— no matter what’ one’s personal tastes. The last time Eon had a so-called “stinker” at the Box Office was in 1989!!! I despise DAD, but I can’t argue the box office results. It certainly wasn’t what I like in Bond, but it brought butts to seats.
So, although I heard Amazon did broach the subject about expanding IP and entering into more TV (outside of the reality show that was already in the works, pre-sale), I just don’t think anyone in the industry is trying to push EoN to do anything that they don’t want to do.
In the film industry, EoN is an incredibly successful independent enterprise.
If only for a return on it’s investment, I do think that Amazon will want to see movement on EoN’s part. I wonder what is the level of communication between the parties. With nothing to go on , I believe that a rough timeframe for production and release of Bond 26 has been discussed.
But remember that the investment isn’t just for Bond; Amazon bought all of MGM and its library. So Amazon isn’t just sitting on hands waiting for Bond. They have plenty of IP to capitalize on. They’ve got their hands full…
Although I loved the Bond films from the 80s, their box office shows they were in decline.
During the hiatus that followed, people and media questioned whether 007 could make a comeback.
EoN and Bond may be in that downturn phase as we live and breathe. After all, they just celebrated the most successful era since Connery.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all, if they’re at a crossroads.
But Bond, and EoN, have a hobby, and they’ll eventually resurrect again, even if there is a season where they’re more autumn than spring.
Or this pause is their autumn and winter and as they work through the process, 26 will be a strong return.
In the end, there’s a process and I don’t think Amazon, or anyone else, is holding a gun to their heads.
R.I.P Sir Sean Connery.
Trying to make something like 60s Connery or 70/80s Moore? That’s just death.
Christopher Nolan has basically admitted to being a Bond fanboy his whole career, and he's just dying to "reinvent" bond from the ground up. I think its safe to say that he would be interested in pitching EON his idea. If they like what he has, and decide he can do the series justice, then by all means give him 300 million to create his epic. He's not my first choice, but most importantly the series needs a safe pair of hands, and once Nolan has showcased his OPPENHIEMER film, which people are already raving over, then I think he's gonna be interested in flexing his genre cinema muscles once again. It does seem like a good fit after all these years, and it seems like the scheduling is lining up perfectly for Bond to be his next project. I wouldn't say it is an outstanding choice, but there are lots of worse options I could name, and like I said he is clearly a very passionate lifelong fan of Bond, and being considered one of the best big budget filmmakers of his generation, it would seem like a fitting partnership.
I still found dry humour in them, personally. I know it’s not to everyones tastes— just like the films themselves. It’s all subjective, and not one way or the other is the absolute correct or incorrect way of making a film, or making a Bond picture.
I’m happy that I truly adore most of the films. Most are like comfort food to me. I watch them and they make me feel relaxed and at ease.
And then I have my Craig era, which challenged and pushed the character in ways I’ve never seen James Bond go in before.
I don’t know what I want from the next guy, other than: just find your “way” and go for it…
I hope they stick with that tone myself, I really enjoyed Bond being taken seriously.
Hopefully in the next era, the films are written more throughly and perhaps film them a bit closer together, if they plan on more continuity again