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Bob Kane stole credit not just from Bill Finger, but from a lot of other people, Jerry Robinson and Dick Sprang were big on building Batman's supporting cast. Bob Kane would have killed the Joker off after his first appearance. The biggest thing Bob Kane did for Batman was to combine the words "Bat" and "Man." Bill Finger died in poverty, when he shouldn't have. Bob Kane could have given Bill Finger credit in his lifetime, but didn't. The last Batman thing Bob Kane saw before he died was Batman & Robin. That still wasn't enough karma for Bob, in my mind. So, true Batman fans aren't too fond of Bob Kane.
Sorry @DarthDimi you posted your post, while I was writing mine!
As for other superheroes getting their own Hollywood Walk of Fame, I'd support Superman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, and Captain America for sure!
I'm sure he always will. But as @MaxCasino pointed out, Kane's contributions are few and far from what we consider iconic. Others, and indeed not just Finger, built the Batman.
It wouldn't have been so bad if Kane had been a good sport. A little thank you to all those other blokes from time to time would have done miracles. But his arrogance has led to him being posthumously put to shame. I wish it hadn't come to this.
I wish that Bob Kane would have given Bill Finger, Jerry Robinson and Dick Sprang credit with him. They deserved it. Unfortunately, he got a solo credit, Bill Finger died in poverty, and we had to put up with Kane's annoying wife in Batman Forever and Batman & Robin (Gossip Gerty, in poor acting and adding nothing to their stories).
Here's some positive news:
https://www.cbr.com/matt-reeves-the-batman-part-ii-finished/
Casting should be announced soon!
Also, Happy Early Batman Day! Something I've noticed recently is how much of Batman's other characters (both allies and villains) from his world have gotten their own fair share of media in the last 20 years. I don't think this would have happened if Batman Begins hadn't been a success. I'm thankful for how much the world of Batman has been opened, in all forms of media. I'm thankful to get to share my love of the Batman mythology with you all as much as the James Bond (and various other fictional mythologies) mythology. Thank you, and have a happy Batman Day!
Amen to all of that, @MaxCasino!
And as for Gerty... I can't stand her. "Brucieeeee!"
See @DarthDimi even Batman’s movie equivalent of Cubby Broccoli agrees with us! Happy Batman day!
That's beautiful! And appropriate.
Happy B-man Day, folks!
Your friendly neighborhood Vengeance
I really hope that DC and WB let Ben Affleck write a graphic novel version of his script. It seems that Batgirl movies just can't get off the ground, in more ways than one.
https://x.com/homeofdcu/status/1839373603802153065
https://x.com/DCFilmNews/status/1839380421236392442
I wish more Batman alumni would have been there. Just not George Clooney or Bob Kane's wife! At least Paul Dini was there. One of Batman's greatest writers.
https://www.dc.com/blog/2024/09/27/the-new-abnormal-john-jackson-miller-talks-batman-resurrection
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/batman-villain-bane-movie-dc-studios-1236000421/
https://x.com/SmallScreenCo/status/1839663604829655207
https://x.com/JeremyJLop/status/1836758711919927579
It's nice to see Batman villains other than the well known regulars get some screen time.
I'm not sure if i'd want to see other villain-focused superhero films after looking at what Sony has done with Spider-Man.
Well, it does seem like WB and DC love Batman above all else. Plus, you have a few people in charge that care about the character(s) over the Sony people (Avi Arid namely).
Well, we complain about how stupid Bond villains sometimes are, but frankly, Batman villains are not much better. Batman and Robin are captured at least once per double episode, sometimes even incapacitated, and you're telling me that not a single villain, and I repeat that
That :>
NOT . A . SINGLE . VILLAIN !
has ever had the bright idea to take off the Dynamic Duo's masks ? Come on, if I were a villain, that would be my first thought. What gives, Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman ?
On the other hand, I must say that the series was really entertaining, and the fights were really well choreographed.
This is why I don't debate about Bond villains getting novel spinoffs. While I think it could be an interesting idea, I can definitely see why people wouldn't like the idea.
Edited: Finished episode 2, I am enjoying the show though...
Really excited about this actually! Similar to James Bond, a lot of spinoffs for Batman's supporting cast seem to be on their way! However, compared to IFP, we know that WB and DC are definitely keeping Batman in the spotlight. Plus, most of these spinoffs seem to be movies. Still, it's a great time to be a fan of the supporting characters in both worlds!
There's more character development for Batman/Bruce Wayne in this passage than in the two Tim Burton movies combined. I'll be seeing the author speak possibly next week. It sounds like a sequel (that isn't Batman Returns) is on the way. For now, this is promising.
Say goodbye to those Batman villain spin-offs for awhile.
Yes, the script did feel like it needed a rewrite. And I'm someone who generally likes it. I honestly think Dr Hugo Strange should have been it. Brendan Gleeson would have been perfect for him. So, I honestly think Joker 2 was a creative gamble that didn't pay off like the first one. I still feel that it will gain cult status one day.
Hugo Strange could have been a good antagonist for Joker 2. But yeah, it’s an odd one. The production notes on wiki are unusual - all this stuff about Phoenix having a dream and coming up with the musical concept, it initially being devised as a genuine Broadway musical, James Gunn giving notes only for Philips to ignore them, Philips for some reason choosing to film in more expensive LA locations rather than London studios/effectively inflating the budget…
Musicals don't work all the time. But it can be an entertaining and successful genre, if done right.
I dunno, I think a lot of the ideas were there for an interesting sequel that could have easily have been better than the first (I'd argue the first one isn't a particularly interesting film in general really).
Exactly. The first one isn't exactly spectacular. It's quite a depressing film to be honest.
The first one just made me want to rewatch The King of Comedy. Not to say the fact that Joker bears a lot of similarities to that or Taxi Driver is a bad thing. It's just that I feel something like KOC is much more twisted and darkly comedic, which I'd say is what I'd expect from a movie about the Joker.