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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    (I think that's the joke, yes :D )
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    Jaguar’s rebrand did not sit well with internal staff – report
    Reports suggest Jaguar's own design team was blindsided by the company's redesign, and claims the process left them on the outside.

    According to an Autocar India report, Jaguar’s designers penned a letter to the brand’s chief creative officer, Gerry McGovern, expressing disappointment with the decision to outsource the rebrand.

    The letter was reportedly signed by 25-30 members of Jaguar’s in-house design team, who complained about the way the external consultancy firm, Accenture Interactive, went about the overhaul.

    https://www.autocarindia.com/car-news/jaguars-rebranding-exercise-sparks-internal-backlash-434145
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited January 18 Posts: 2,640
    Mercedes-Benz Museum

    Nice video.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Great. Almost makes Stuttgart a place worth traveling to.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Great. Almost makes Stuttgart a place worth traveling to.

    In a few words, how would you describe Stuttgart ?
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    6th biggest German city by population. Capital of the state/province of Baden-Württemberg. Nice location and countryside surroundings, probably very livable, lots of "culture", traditionally a solid industrial base (Mercedes-Benz aka "Daimler", Porsche, Bosch ...). Not much of an "old town", due to a rather total wipe-out in late WW II bombardments. Today, pretty much yet another architecturally boring city with mostly post-war buildings. No "must see" attractions, I'm afraid, at least when compared with Germany's top five tourist destinations (Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Cologne) and an endless number of other "gems" all over Germany. Say Dresden, Freiburg, Lübeck, just to name three that come to my mind immediately, in no particular order. Im sure I'd speak more enthusiastically about Stuttgart if I lived there.

    And there are some people who can shoot someone from Stuttgart und still create ze proper effect.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited January 19 Posts: 2,640
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    6th biggest German city by population. Capital of the state/province of Baden-Württemberg. Nice location and countryside surroundings, probably very livable, lots of "culture", traditionally a solid industrial base (Mercedes-Benz aka "Daimler", Porsche, Bosch ...). Not much of an "old town", due to a rather total wipe-out in late WW II bombardments. Today, pretty much yet another architecturally boring city with mostly post-war buildings. No "must see" attractions, I'm afraid, at least when compared with Germany's top five tourist destinations (Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Cologne) and an endless number of other "gems" all over Germany. Say Dresden, Freiburg, Lübeck, just to name three that come to my mind immediately, in no particular order. Im sure I'd speak more enthusiastically about Stuttgart if I lived there.

    And there are some people who can shoot someone from Stuttgart und still create ze proper effect.

    What do you mean by this Dr. Kaufman ? 🍺
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Yes, of course. The only mention of Stuttgart in the Bond franchise.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Yes, of course. The only mention of Stuttgart in the Bond franchise.

    And rightly so ? :)>-
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    There are other cities mentioned (Munich and Augsburg in the OHMSS novel, Augsburg also in the movie) or shown (Berlin galore - even as a Bavarian village - in OP, Hamburg in TND) that play a bigger role than Stuttgart. Oh yes, and Frankfurt Airport posing as Amsterdam in DAF. I guess they chose Stuttgart for the Dr. Kaufmann remark because it sounds so German. But we digress...
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited January 19 Posts: 7,283
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    There are other cities mentioned (Munich and Augsburg in the OHMSS novel, Augsburg also in the movie) or shown (Berlin galore - even as a Bavarian village - in OP, Hamburg in TND) that play a bigger role than Stuttgart. Oh yes, and Frankfurt Airport posing as Amsterdam in DAF. I guess they chose Stuttgart for the Dr. Kaufmann remark because it sounds so German. But we digress...

    And of course Karl-Marx-Stadt (now Chemnitz) ;)

    Edit: and Dresden is mentioned in AVTAK as Zorin's birthplace.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    "Very good, Mr. Gun. You've been to Germany?"
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited January 19 Posts: 7,283
    "Dropped in occasionally, shoot in and out (given how fast you can go on the Autobahn :p)"
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    On WhatsApp, I would now send a thumbs-up emoji, but I don't find one here.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Oh that's a shame 👎
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited January 19 Posts: 4,359
    May I add that the Volkswagen Beetle and many other cars in OP had a Bayreuth (BT) number plate?
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Honda is bringing Countach and Espada shapes to the mainstream.

  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
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    Aston Martin DB5 and DB4GT Continuation

    Nice toys.........
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited January 25 Posts: 7,283
    Had to sell my trusted old Fiat for a bigger car, and I've finally done it: bought an Alfa Romeo.

    As an alfista, I couldn't be more happy!!

    (Sharing it with you gents, since most of the people I know swear by BMW's and Audi's :p )
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I had an Alfa and I liked it; yes, it was more trouble than my german cars have been and underpowered, but it drove beautifully and felt special. Which one have you gone for?
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    mtm wrote: »
    I had an Alfa and I liked it; yes, it was more trouble than my german cars have been and underpowered, but it drove beautifully and felt special. Which one have you gone for?

    I've had a Fiat for 6 years, and a Lancia before that, and didn't have a single problem with either of them, so I felt safe to go for an Alfa :D I've always loved the way they looked, more than any other manufacturer (save perhaps quite a few classic Lancia's but that's another story atm).

    I went for the Stelvio, because we do need quite some space. The Giulia is probably a bit more 'Alfa', but my other half understandably insisted on at least some practicality so we settled for the middle road (pun slightly intended ;) )
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 25 Posts: 16,846
    Lovely, I think the Stelvio is a great-looking thing.
    While I had it I convinced myself that my Alfa was as reliable as other cars and it was just third party parts which failed etc. but looking back I can see it wasn’t really as reliable as other cars. A mate bought the same model when I’d had mine for a few years and the build quality of his was worse than mine; I think his door handle stopped working :D
    My favourite was when I was driving along and the glove box handle fell off :)) There was a hole for a screw but they’d just glued it on.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Well I hope I won't have the same issues. Will definitely come back in some time to share my thoughts. Atm, the alfista in me is happy and in love so I'll remain on that cloud for as long as possible :))
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    @GoldenGun Have fun with your new toy! From Fiat to Stelvio, that must feel like you skipped a few upgrades in between!
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    I hate to be a spoilsport on a "petrol..." thread, but my wife and I have just decided to order a Hyundai Ioniq 5, fully electric, to replace our 2016 model Jeep Grand Cherokee. The latter just doesn't fit our amount of driving any more...only about 5,000 km per year, and overwhelmingly short trips. The diesel engine hardly ever reaches the desired temperature, and the car really guzzles diesel fuel and keeps demanding a higher-speed trip to clean the particulate filter every 300 kilometers or so. We don't have to pull a two-horse trailer any more, either, since we gave up horseback riding some years ago.

    As for electric, we now have a PV system on the roof of our house and will install a wallbox for the car in our garage. We are pretty sure that the costs of a new electric car will be far lower than those of keeping the 3-liter diesel.

    Oh, come to think of it, we will still have a 3-liter diesel even when we trade in the Jeep...we're not ready to give up our 2008 BMW 330d convertible yet. And it's not Euro 6 and doesn't have a particulate filter it could complain about ;) .
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    zebrafish wrote: »
    @GoldenGun Have fun with your new toy! From Fiat to Stelvio, that must feel like you skipped a few upgrades in between!

    Thanks mate! It does feel like quite an upgrade, even though the Fiat was a good car in its own right (read: price range). But yeah, Alfa is something else for sure :)
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    I hate to be a spoilsport on a "petrol..." thread, but my wife and I have just decided to order a Hyundai Ioniq 5, fully electric, to replace our 2016 model Jeep Grand Cherokee. The latter just doesn't fit our amount of driving any more...only about 5,000 km per year, and overwhelmingly short trips. The diesel engine hardly ever reaches the desired temperature, and the car really guzzles diesel fuel and keeps demanding a higher-speed trip to clean the particulate filter every 300 kilometers or so. We don't have to pull a two-horse trailer any more, either, since we gave up horseback riding some years ago.

    As for electric, we now have a PV system on the roof of our house and will install a wallbox for the car in our garage. We are pretty sure that the costs of a new electric car will be far lower than those of keeping the 3-liter diesel.

    Oh, come to think of it, we will still have a 3-liter diesel even when we trade in the Jeep...we're not ready to give up our 2008 BMW 330d convertible yet. And it's not Euro 6 and doesn't have a particulate filter it could complain about ;) .

    Congrats, mate! Hope you enjoy the new car! :)
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,122
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    @GoldenGun Have fun with your new toy! From Fiat to Stelvio, that must feel like you skipped a few upgrades in between!

    Thanks mate! It does feel like quite an upgrade, even though the Fiat was a good car in its own right (read: price range). But yeah, Alfa is something else for sure :)
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    I hate to be a spoilsport on a "petrol..." thread, but my wife and I have just decided to order a Hyundai Ioniq 5, fully electric, to replace our 2016 model Jeep Grand Cherokee. The latter just doesn't fit our amount of driving any more...only about 5,000 km per year, and overwhelmingly short trips. The diesel engine hardly ever reaches the desired temperature, and the car really guzzles diesel fuel and keeps demanding a higher-speed trip to clean the particulate filter every 300 kilometers or so. We don't have to pull a two-horse trailer any more, either, since we gave up horseback riding some years ago.

    As for electric, we now have a PV system on the roof of our house and will install a wallbox for the car in our garage. We are pretty sure that the costs of a new electric car will be far lower than those of keeping the 3-liter diesel.

    Oh, come to think of it, we will still have a 3-liter diesel even when we trade in the Jeep...we're not ready to give up our 2008 BMW 330d convertible yet. And it's not Euro 6 and doesn't have a particulate filter it could complain about ;) .

    Congrats, mate! Hope you enjoy the new car! :)

    Thanks, GG! We just took a test drive on Thursday, and it was actually the first time ever that I drove an electric car, but I was quite impressed. Among other things, both my wife and I very much enjoyed the absence of engine noise, and the artificial emulation of an engine sound that comes (as part of a package with more useful things, i.e. a decent sound system) on the model we intend to buy will be most certainly something we never use. I'll never understand people who wish to make their car noisier, neither for themselves nor even more so for people outside. - On the downside, delivery time is said to be five to seven months, but we'll have to wait and see.
  • muzz100muzz100
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    What a thread. I post as an unreconstructed holdout in urban London with a 350Z parked in the street, just marked her 21st birthday, on her 4th life at least, 2 write offs thanks, no sat nav, let’s do it the old fashioned way, sir.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,122
    muzz100 wrote: »
    What a thread. I post as an unreconstructed holdout in urban London with a 350Z parked in the street, just marked her 21st birthday, on her 4th life at least, 2 write offs thanks, no sat nav, let’s do it the old fashioned way, sir.

    Good job, @muzz100! I'm not aware of how the chances are to park that baby in a London street, but she's obviously worth preserving. At the risk of comparing apples with oranges, we had a Mazda MX-5 NA from 1992 until 2008 (when the door sills had rusted through), and have had that BMW 330d convertible ever since (for almost 17 years). And we'll keep the latter until we can't afford the repairs any more, it's too much fun when the sun shines!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    @GoldenGun Have fun with your new toy! From Fiat to Stelvio, that must feel like you skipped a few upgrades in between!

    Thanks mate! It does feel like quite an upgrade, even though the Fiat was a good car in its own right (read: price range). But yeah, Alfa is something else for sure :)
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    I hate to be a spoilsport on a "petrol..." thread, but my wife and I have just decided to order a Hyundai Ioniq 5, fully electric, to replace our 2016 model Jeep Grand Cherokee. The latter just doesn't fit our amount of driving any more...only about 5,000 km per year, and overwhelmingly short trips. The diesel engine hardly ever reaches the desired temperature, and the car really guzzles diesel fuel and keeps demanding a higher-speed trip to clean the particulate filter every 300 kilometers or so. We don't have to pull a two-horse trailer any more, either, since we gave up horseback riding some years ago.

    As for electric, we now have a PV system on the roof of our house and will install a wallbox for the car in our garage. We are pretty sure that the costs of a new electric car will be far lower than those of keeping the 3-liter diesel.

    Oh, come to think of it, we will still have a 3-liter diesel even when we trade in the Jeep...we're not ready to give up our 2008 BMW 330d convertible yet. And it's not Euro 6 and doesn't have a particulate filter it could complain about ;) .

    Congrats, mate! Hope you enjoy the new car! :)
    I'll never understand people who wish to make their car noisier, neither for themselves nor even more so for people outside.

    Some of the noise is for safety so that folks can hear them coming.
    muzz100 wrote: »
    What a thread. I post as an unreconstructed holdout in urban London with a 350Z parked in the street, just marked her 21st birthday, on her 4th life at least, 2 write offs thanks, no sat nav, let’s do it the old fashioned way, sir.

    Oh lovely, I do like a Z, they're still very handsome.
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