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I would absolutely agree that Brosnan did a good to excellent job at striking that balance. I also totally agree that he never got the scripts he deserved. That, in fact, is my biggest regret of the Brosnan era. I would've loved to see what he could do with a script like Casino Royale.
Sorry but you fail. You were obviously watching something else or your dislike for Craig has impaured your vision as you're seeing things that aren't there because I described the scene exactly how it was in the film. Nice try but as per usual, no.
Like I just said, I think Brosnan brought his own texture to the part - and had all the ingredients anyway to be the perfect Bond.
(Nobody will ever match Connery - that goes without saying)
But yeah, I do think he's very inexpressive. I guess you and I have different ideas of what constitutes expression. To me, he is always the same in every scene. He looks pissed-off and exudes EFFORT. He's tough! Get it? This guy is really really tough! And deep! His lines all come out in this joyless monotone, so nothing ever feels like it has any punch or wryness to it. Even when he does humor, it feels kind of leaden. That exchange with Q, he just stares and says the line way too grimly. The same goes for his flirting with women. It's muted to the point of passivity, or indifference.
These are my opinions based on the two films so far.
Problem with Brosnan was that instead of acting he was too busy imitating Connery and Moore most of the time and not doing a convincing enough job at that. There were times he'd shine but they were on very rare occasions and even Brisnan himself conceded that he never ever nailed the role and I'd have to agree with him but to be fair he's a good actor and it's not all his fault the way his movies turned out.
There's no failing in opinions. Just people too insecure to accept that.
You keep saying that, haha. Using his self-deprecating remarks against him. As was said upthread, very accurately - Craig could be said to be "imitating" Dalton's dry take on the role. Unfortunately.
Again you fail for not knowing what an opinion is. I described a scene from CR. Craig walks through the casino with a slight smirk on his face. Fact. You made a ludicrously contrary statement which is not evidenced at all within the scene I was talking about do like I said, you fail.
It's impossible not to invite comparisons at this point. I see Connery, Dalton, and Craig in a certain type of group, but with differences. Connery took direction from Terence Young, Dalton went back to the books, Craig is trying to modernize and be his own guy. Sir Roger was his own original Bond and endlessly entertaining even if he was on the light side, at least he established something there. Pierce lacked Moore's charm and likability in comparison and wasn't physical or scary enough to join the big 3. I can understand that some of his scripts were complete turkeys, but Moore would have managed to provide more memorable moments with the same material. And George, well, he never got much of a chance to show where he may have fit in.
I don't keep saying anything. It's all in your head mate and as for Craig imitating Dalton, really? How so? What because both actors are taking the role seriously?? Alright then, if you say so.
No. YOU fail. Your description of HOW YOU PERCEIVED a scene is an OPINION, not a fact. You're really something else.
You have used that exact line about Brosnan saying he didn't quite nail the role so many times I know it by heart. I just think it's hilarious that you use that to bolster your bashing of him. I should scour Craig's comments for something I can use, LOL.
Now you're just outfailing yourself abd with such spectacular fashion too. I'm not focusing on how cool or what other opinion I had of the scene that I mentioned but you'd do well to acknowledge that I was focusing on what was actually taking place in that particular scene in which you submitted a contrary statement to the factual description I gave. Wake up.
Maybe you've been online too long. You must have me confused with countless others who have made such comments. Go out and get some fresh air or something. I think you've had enough excitement for one day.
Awwww, just when we had him all wound up and using caps :))
Anyone ever seen a casting call sheet. It always identifies a look, including, height weight, age, build, ethnicity. You either have it or you don't. Craig doesn't have it. He's simply too short.
Even Fleming identified Bond as 6' for crying out loud and that was in the 50's, when men were shorter on average. Minimum Bond height now should be at least 6'2'', which happens also to be Connery's 1962 height.
While its wonderful that many of you love Craig and like the movies for what they are, and all the power to you, please understand that many of us demand that the Bond actor actually have the classic Bond look, and we all know what that is. Its not an unreasonable requirement.
As for Craig, wasn't he approached and sought out. He didn't even want the role at first so what does that say? That the producers are running the series into the ground? That they're destroying the Bond legacy? Hardly. Bond's popularity hasn't been this big in decades.
doubleego - Congratulations. You are the biggest a**hole on the internet. Well done. You must be so proud. I will leave you to your little fascist cyberkingdom that must compensate for your utter failure as a human being.
Honestly, I have to ask this. Assuming Craig was the best available actor for the role in 2005, and you had a vote, would you have rather had the best candidate to put asses in the seats and be believable, or an inferior, second best choice and a riskier option just because he looked the part? No right or wrong answer, but to me Brosnan was an example that looking the part and being the part can be two very different things. And I must also point out that Sir Roger's light brown hair didn't fit the stereotype either. Was he not the best candidate then regardless?
We'll have to make sure Craig gets some special shoes next time out that assist him with his height issues ;)
Are you looking forward to Skyfall, or assuming the worst? Haven't heard your take on that.
Well, I disagree with him and you then, sorry. I'd say he nailed it, even when his films weren't great (cough, DAD, coug), he was one of the good things about them. Brosnan shouldn't put himself down, it's like Moore saying that he (himself) is a bad actor.
Well Craig and Dalton were both serious, Moore and Brosnan were both more light hearted. I think, if Brosnan was doing nothing but imitating Connery and Moore like lots of people (including you) say, by that logic, Craig was/is imitating Dalton and Lazenby (and you could even throw Connery in there if you think he's close to him).
I don't think either are coyping past Bonds, they just have the same traits as some of them, but they mix it up to make the part their own.
I strongly agree with thelivingroyale's comments re Dalton and Brosnan, as well as SirHenry's last comment. And for me personally, Craig does not come across as short. At all. It is not a factor for me in regards to his Bond. Would anyone rather have a cardboard cutout who typifies the traditional from Fleming look Bond (and is taller) instead of a really good actor who gives us a fully dimensional Bond ? No, I didn't think so. I strongly disagree about Craig being of one emotion or having one face. Anyway, let's get back to MGW's comments a bit, or has that run the gamut? Apprarently they were taken out of context and blown out of proportion, nothing new in that happening.
You are right about Rog's light locks. I didn't like that either. They should have forced the dye on him, but hair colour or lack of hair (Connery) can be corrected. Height and the general Bond handsomeness though can't be corrected. Now I realize that handsomeness is somewhat relative,but I think we know what I'm getting at -- a classic handsomeness in the Cary Grant, Rock Hudson, Roger Moore mold, but there is wiggle room here. Moore was always touted as a potential Bond because he seemed to have the perfect look, but the actor doesn't have to be held to quite the Moore standard.
In the meantime Craig is Bond. I'll take the movies for what they are, but next time around I would really like to see an insistence on tall dark and handsome. Get back to basics.
As for SF, it should be a damn good movie. Its not quite what I want though. I weary of Craig's dour persona. He's not my cup of Bond but I'll make due.
Enjoying the new Steve Hackett album btw. Looking forward to picking up Squackett too.
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As for Craig's so called monotone delivery, I'll take his English voice over a transatlantic drawl or even Dalton's which was all over the place in LTK (" it was about to turn nasty") as for god Connery, he was fine till after TB then during the end of YOLT he turned into a Glaswegian brickie. (they're's an exploder button up in the control room we've gotta get up there")
I would say the only other actor was Moore when it came to the voice but Craig actually sounds English unlike all the others bar Rog monotone or not.
Craig for the record has displayed the most diverse of emotions of any actor it's just his detractors will always call him stone faced. Connery is incredibly charismatic but I don't see a great deal of range to his Bond, Moore is just one note with the odd exception and Tim tried very hard but couldn't convince in all departments, he had deadly side down pat but being romantic and humour not really. As for Pierce I don't need to go into my thoughts on him I think it's clear, Lazenby sounds more like Bond than him.
Craig for me delivers far range than any actor to date but if you want a limited clothes horse in the role be my guest!
prove to be so priceless that Broccoli and Wilson are left with no Bond at all.
This is probably what I like most about Brosnan, even though I think he had his own style in a way. But the Moore-stuff that he showed in TND & DAD especially elevated him to near actor-god status for me. I think he was brilliant and since my opinion is that Moore's Bond is the real Bond, this "tribute act" was very much the way I want to see the role of 007 portrayed. The difference between Moore and Brosnan for me is that Brosnan feels more human and also more hard-edged. IMO you could say that he sometimes had some Connery and Dalton in his portrayal.
About "the classic look", it doesn't bother me very much that Craig looks so...rough. I think it's more important how he acts. Of course a Bond actor must look good to an extent but I'd rather have a Moore-esque Bond looking like Craig, than a Craig style Bond looking like Moore.
For Goodness Sake ! Michael G Wilson should realise that Daniel Craig has been an absolute godsend to this franchise.
This franchise was dwindling in 2001 ( It was Embarrassing how The Bourne Identity was Light Years ahead of Die Another Day ).
This is a Bond we can sincerely be proud of and should be encouringing him to continue ...
In qos he acted like steve mcqueen, not suitable for bond in a film, and there was more mumbling of his lines. He was robotic at times and not very suave at other times.
It all depends how he and the film go (not financially) but as a film. And for dc, how he acts in the role of bond, more cool,calm and hopefully better than in qos.
I don't know if he has had a falling out with producers or the producers aren't that happy with the robotic acting in qos or what they have seen in sf and prefer someone more suave or a better actor or maybe something else.
They might be impressed with some other actor who they think would be a better bond.