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...probably? :(
Into the toilet? /sarcasm /GE
So Seve is an UNCLE fan. Excellent. IMO it did capture the tone even though it had nothing to do with the format of the original series. It didn't have any dancing gorillas or stink bombs so I'm not seeing a 3rd season parallel. I do think that the tone of the film did reflect a lot of what is seen in "The Dove Affair".
Well, something was wrong with it, because it didn't grab me at all
Me not finding Henry Cavill and Army Hammer sufficiently charismatic was also a factor...
I liked that it went for the aesthetic of an Italian 60s spy movie, I didn’t expect it to go that way and rather enjoyed it.
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"Guaranteed next day delivery, Bond. And fully electric too."
Having watched a truck load of Italian 60s Eurospy movies recently, I'm not sure I see any particular similarity myself
Yeah, it's only skin deep, but there's occasional flourishes like the quite enjoyable occasional crash zooms and other bits and bobs here and there, and Daniel Pemberton is doing most of the heavy lifting with his terrific retro score.
If you came to the new film with Vaughn and McCallum in mind, which would be an almost impossible standard to meet, then of course one would be disappointed. The original chemistry between Solo and Illya was lightning in a bottle.
I might look at it like this: If Amazon deliver us Bond films in the same quality as the on-average weaker entries i.e. DAF/AVTAK/DAD etc. then I'll be satisfied because I still love those films.
Oh, and bring back the 007 theme!
If we get a film as good as GE /TLD it will be worth it, I don't know if even EON were capable of doing that anymore, without going rogue or quitting the service.
Trust me, TLD had a wow factor after AVTAK. A younger Bond, which I'm pretty sure we'll get now.
Fifty shades of Moneypenny? The are already planning spin-offs before a major release? I call bull....! Surely James Bond must be in there somewhere, and Amazon will not have different actors playing Bond in their universe. So this is not the proper way to introduce the new Bond: as a supporting role.
From the article: Many Bond fans fear that the Amazon deal will lead to the brand being diluted down with spin-off stories and prequels which diminish the purity of the British icon.
If it's a choice between respecting the legacy or respecting the cash-flow, there's only one choice of course, but at least make them look like blockbusters with high production value, instead of cheap TV-productions.
Yes, people were happy with GoldenEye after all.
I guess that came about because of Disney’s strategy (different directors with different takes on each film). If anything I think that shows why you need a hands on lead producer (or producers) to get a sense of consistency and direction.
That said I actually didn’t like Force Awakens (not a Star Wars fan, but it felt like I’d seen that film before. And not in a formula driven movie way, but a kind of boring way). The second was a bit of a miss for me, but not for the reasons I often see hardcore fans complain about (I personally don’t see why Luke wouldn’t end up in the situation he did in the story). I think if they’d run with many ideas of the second one the third one would have been a bit better.
I think both GE and TLD are a lot braver and interesting as Bond films than people seem to be giving them credit for recently. I certainly find them more interesting than something like Force Awakens.
At least Le Carré had few blunders compared with Ian Fleming who dubbed James Bond a "secret" agent yet simultaneously depicted 007 as an employee on MI6's payroll. You may say "so what" because Bond is fiction. So is Postman Pat but his creator John Cunliffe never called him an Uber or Deliveroo courier.
Now an MI6 secret agent would never have: (1) been an employee on MI6’s payroll who took holidays and submitted expense claims etc; (2) reported directly to the Head of MI6, had annual appraisals and been on extremely familiar terms with many other MI6 employees such as Q or Moneypenny; (3) been a frequent visitor to MI6 HQ and other MI6 buildings; and (4) even used his own name when he met ministers et al in Whitehall.
Given Ian Fleming's background in British naval intelligence in World War 11, that contradictory classification of 007 was about as absurd as calling a Brain Surgeon a Hair Dresser or a Navy Seal a Coastguard as noted in the latest intriguing news article in TheBurlingtonFiles (advert free) website which is a tad similar to a virtual espionage museum with no entry fee.
To quote from the article ... "As for 007 being “secret”, ... since everybody knew ... his favourite drink was shaken not stirred, I’m surprised he wasn’t poisoned more often … especially as he insisted on letting everyone know his name was “Bond, James Bond”! Perhaps Bond’s true skill lay in being so conspicuously ostentatious that no one believed he could genuinely be a spy!
I've definitely seen people describe GE as a "greatest hits" Bond film, which is similar to the criticism of TFA. I think the likelihood is that we'll see a film which runs the risk of feeling a bit empty and soulless to make sure Bond is portrayed as heroic and in control, the mission for Amazon will be to win over fans with a crowdpleasing entry that people leave the cinema (or the sofa) feeling like Bond is back.
I can understand why people say it’s a ‘greatest hits’ film, but I think that actually undervalues exactly what GE is and why it was quite an important Bond film. All Bond movies rely on those broad tropes to some extent, so they’re all ‘greatest hits’ films if we take it like that. The flip side to this is GE’s a film that had to bring Bond into the post Cold War era and do something different with these broad tropes. It’s a fine line between a crowd pleasing Bond film that reintroduces our hero and brings him into the world today, and something soulless and corporate.
Personally, I think if we get a Force Awakens it’ll be successful in the short term, but I think it’d be a bad sign going forward if on the whole it was seen as too safe or without substance. It makes the likelihood of Last Jedi type misfires more likely.