The What if thread...What if Quantum of Solace hadn’t been affected by the writers’ strike?

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  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    I think multiverses are completely un-necessary, anal retentive nonsense. As a child I couldn't understand why Dr Who changed from William Hartnell to Patrick Traughton and was very upset (I kept watching, but never really forgave Patrick for not being William.)

    That’s not a multiverse situation. He literally changes face within the same continuity.

    True dat, and, although I can see that it appeared that way, it was not my intention to suggest that it was. There was no multiverse when I was growing up, so I used the Dr Who to represent an equivalent situation. I intended it as another example of where the creators felt the need to explain the change in actor in order to maintain continuity.

    It's kind of different as it allowed the new actor to almost create an entirely different version of the character, something which doesn't really happen with Bond or Holmes.

    True, but as I say, it was as close as I could come up with in order to draw upon my own personal childhood experience and feelings about a change of actor, to contrast with how my adult self feels when that happens.

    I would argue that James Bond actors do have some scope to create their own version of the character though, I mean no-one would suggest that Craig-bond was the same as Brosnan-bond, or that Dalton-bond was like Moore-bond.

    And Dr Who's often do share many similarities, manic bursts of energy and excited outbursts of verbal diahorrea being a common trait for most of them.

    My point still being that I personally regard the multiverse as a redundant concept, one actor left and a new one took his place, any additional made up fantasy explanation is un necessary.

    Even having him die is not really a problem, just as I have no doubt that, some time in the future, Tony Stark will re-appear as Ironman in a movie, after the current iteration of the Marvel Universe has finally disappeared down the rabbit hole into oblivion.

    And, for those who do enjoy multiverses, he's still out there now anyway, in infinite other multiverses where he did not die, so what's the point of it all, why bother concocting such an elaborate pretense, what useful purpose does it serve?
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    Bond is not coming back. In the next iteration, he will have never left. He'll appear on screen with a history and carry on. Live or die, NTTD was the end of Craig's tenure as Bond. How pointless would it be to cook up a story line in which Craig's Bond doesn't die, but somehow comes back younger. No, he's done. Move on. And don't try to sandwich the new film in between some old ones as if NTTD will happen in the future but with everything dated. What's done is done. Live with it. The next Bond will not be a continuation of any previous Bond. Hopefully the new actor will own the role like Connery and Craig did. Find the right actor and all sins can be forgiven.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    Pre credit sequence, villains are up to something, a mysterious stranger appears, kicking arse and taking names. At the end of the sequence he enters a restaurant, hotel or airport, walks up to the maitre d, reception desk or ticketing counter and says "I believe I have a reservation". The person addressed replies "May I have your name sir?" to which the stranger replies "Bond, James Bond". Cue gun barrel sequence featuring the new guy, opening credits etc

    Then possibly a scene introducing M and Moneypenny (or reintroducing the same ones from the Craig era) and assigning the next mission, then off we go

    Prologue scene, music fades out, Bond lying down on the crest of a hill watching something through binoculars, then a shot where we see his viewpoint - in the distance a woman and a child play in the spring grass outside a Nordic chalet, but we are not close enough to see them in detail. Back to Bond, lowering the binoculars from his eyes and looking wistful, closing credit music begins...
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Interesting thoughts about this business of re-booting. I can see both sides of the discussion. These posts make me realize that killing Bond might be a better thing than if he had lived. At least now the new guy won't have to answer questions about Vesper et al.

    Another one that we may have tackled but due to more recent information coming forward I think it might lead to a discussion:

    What if Quantum of Solace hadn’t been affected by the writers’ strike?

    According to Craig QOS had Bond and Forster writing and re-writing scenes in this movie while it was being shot. Having already committed to a release date the film went ahead with a writers strike. This meant a not quite fully polished script and hence Craig and Forster having to write or re-write scenes.

    What do you think would have been the biggest improvement if they had got the script in a better place before filming? Were there characters who weren't well written? I know Elvis is a henchman that is just there, might his character been improved?

    What are your thoughts on this what if?
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    But wait, I've got one more

    Opens with the shot of Craig-Bond, his back to camera, watching the missles raining down from above, then apparently being vaporised, cut to shot a handsome stranger suddenly waking up as if from a nightmare, crying out, then sitting up, with eyes wide open and sweating profusely.

    Pan out to reveal the whole double bed, a beautiful naked woman next to him, she sits up and puts her hands on his shoulders to comfort him and says "What's wrong James, you look shaken?"

    Bond gives her an enquiring sideways look and replies "Not stirred?"
    He takes her in his arms and they recline back onto the bed
    Cue gun barrel sequence...

    After the opening credits we learn that Bond is at Shrublands, where he is recuperating from NTTD and then off we go
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    An extra 15 minutes of QOS would've been nice. That was one thing that disappointed me upon walking out of the cinema. Any less than 2 hours of Bond and I feel short-changed. Without the writer's strike it's fair to say we'd see more footage, maybe even the Mr White ending, which would then dramatically alter the SP and NTTD storylines.

    Having said that, QOS is excellent as is, and I feel Craig, EON and crew shouldn't punish themselves over it but be proud of how the film turned out.

    Especially on this day, dedicated to the film. World Quantum Day.


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