What attracts non Brits to Bond?

edited November 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 1,314
Just curious. As a Brit, my chest swells a little when Roger Moores parachute opens in TSWLM, or seeing DC on the rooftop overlooking London at the end of Skyfall. That level of affection wouldn't be there for say a French, German or American character - like the dreadful XXX. Partly because of the lack of British iconic characters in cinema, partly because it's nice to see a character who's humour and background I can relate to. And the UK box office figures speak volumes.

What's the attraction for you non Brits? Is it cool seeing the Union Jack parachute or not?

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  • Posts: 1,407
    Well mostly because you CAN'T compare Bond to somebody like XXX or Jason Bourne. Cool is cool. British or not. As an American, I can honestly say that the coolest movie character and the most entertaining movie character around is Bond. And while I love stuff like the Union Jack parachute, of course I don't have "national pride" when watching it as I'm sure many others here do. Bond is so accessible that British or not, anybody can enjoy him

    I'd also like to take this chance to say I hope nobody here thinks of us American Bond fans any less than British fans. I'm not saying anybody does that here but I hope that is not the case
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Bond goes beyond Britain, he is universal while other characters are not.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 4,813
    It's funny you mentioned the Union Jack parachute, Matt- as an American I look at it as if Bond was giving his Russian friends a big 'F You', which was funny and awesome in its own right!
  • I have to say that as a patriotic American, if I had to pick another nationality to be, I would be British, which is saying something when you consider that my relatives are Irish. I just feel that our countries and cultures have a very special relationship and as such I really see the James Bond films as yet another great Anglo-American partnership because while Bond is British, the films are made with American money in a very American style of movie making, and I've always thought that this was what made the films so successful.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 140
    Well, speaking as a Yank myself, I suspect that Bond fandom is just another aspect of the Anglophilia that has been a constant undercurrent in American culture. Even those of us who do not trace our ancestry to Britain still look to the Isle of the Mighty for our cultural inheritance. King Arthur, Robin Hood, Shakespeare, and, of course, James Bond (just to name a few) all have millions and millions of enthusiasts on the western side of the Atlantic.
  • But don't forget-- we have Batman. ;)
  • Posts: 1,314
    "Cool is cool" - I like that. And interesting answers.
  • Posts: 1,492
    I think alot of it is to do with the franchises international outlook.

    Most of Hollywoods output is set in American locations, American scenarios, and American values.

    Bond isn't.

    Bond would rather be in Istanbul then Indiana, Corfu then Connecticut and La Paz then LA.

    That makes it more accessible to the rest of the world. They might see their city in a Bond film rather then LA or New York yet again.

    I do think the fact that James Bond flies the world and has international adventures helps its accessibility.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 11,189
    actonsteve wrote:
    I think alot of it is to do with the franchises international outlook.

    Most of Hollywoods output is set in American locations, American scenarios, and American values.

    Bond isn't.

    What about LTK, DAF or LALD? ;)

    Seriously, I suppose it's the exoticism people like. The picturesque locations and the glamour.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 1,492
    BAIN123 wrote:

    What about LTK, DAF or LALD? ;)

    I am actually talking about non Bond films in comparison...
  • Posts: 11,189
    actonsteve wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:

    What about LTK, DAF or LALD? ;)

    I am actually talking about non Bond films in comparison...

    Ah I see :p
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I think "Cool is cool" says it. I'm a Yank (who traces his heritage in part back to Ireland & the UK) and I like Bond because the books & movies are unique. Sure we got Flint & Bourne & Ryan, but they're not Bond. The whole spy genre practically exists because of Fleming.
  • Matt007 wrote:
    Just curious. As a Brit, my chest swells a little when Roger Moores parachute opens in TSWLM, or seeing DC on the rooftop overlooking London at the end of Skyfall. That level of affection wouldn't be there for say a French, German or American character - like the dreadful XXX. Partly because of the lack of British iconic characters in cinema, partly because it's nice to see a character who's humour and background I can relate to. And the UK box office figures speak volumes.

    What's the attraction for you non Brits? Is it cool seeing the Union Jack parachute or not?

    Well, I always admired Brits ;-). And I have a weakness for Brits. And to be honest, they are our overseas neighbours, being a Dutch native :-).

  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
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    Like some have said, Bond is a cool character and his adventures are fun (whether on screen or print). I also enjoy other British things like the Beatles, the Police, Sherlock Holmes, and Bond is just one of those.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 501
    Well, although I'm spanish, I always liked Great Britain, and in fact I read your newspapers (the online ones), watch your BBC ITV and so on more than I do watch Spanish telly, which is crap by the way.
    I've always admired this small but important country. In fact, I'm have planned to move to London once I finish university, in about two years time.
    Back to question, I like everything which is British, and, of course, James Bond is part of the pack isn't it. Plus, he's so cool.
  • Bond is undoubtably British but belongs to the world, he travels the world and protects the world from international terrors.
  • I'm a french speaking Canadian from Québec. You ask me what attracks me to Bond?
    He's everything a perfect hero should be. Brave, loyal to his friends and strong.
    Bond is resourceful and intelligent. Since the Dalton's days, he even began to acknowledge his weaknesses. He also make me laugh from time to time. He's one of the rare fictional character I can really feel and care for.
    I even consider him a friend, because friends are there to make you have a good time, forget your worries and enjoy life. Finally, like me, Bond cinema version was born in 1962, and we grew up together. He's always been there for me.

  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    As I've said before on many other threads, I got into Bond thanks to GoldenEye on the N64, so what attracted me at first was the action. Now, though, it's the character himself. It doesn't matter to me where a character comes from, as long as they interest me.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Well for me what hooked me was Eric Serra's Gunbarrel music and Pierce's portrayal as Bond. But for the entire series, its the Adventure, the escapism, the fantasy, the women, the music and "Originality!" that attracts me to Bond. Today Hollywood movies are carbon copies of old movies given new logos and branding. Bond movies are always different always new and refreshing. It's like the flavor of the month! There are some that are sweet and some that leave a sour taste in your mouth, but because it's so unique and fun you come back to it.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote:
    Bond movies are always different always new and refreshing. It's like the flavor of the month! There are some that are sweet and some that leave a sour taste in your mouth, but because it's so unique and fun you come back to it.
    That's what I love about the Bond movies (& books occasionally)- diversity!!! Something hard to come by in this day & age of corporate blandness in big budget films... say what you will about QOS, but it TOOK CHANCES!!!

  • 002002
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    Murdock wrote:
    Well for me what hooked me was Eric Serra's Gunbarrel music and Pierce's portrayal as Bond. But for the entire series, its the Adventure, the escapism, the fantasy, the women, the music and "Originality!" that attracts me to Bond. Today Hollywood movies are carbon copies of old movies given new logos and branding. Bond movies are always different always new and refreshing. It's like the flavor of the month! There are some that are sweet and some that leave a sour taste in your mouth, but because it's so unique and fun you come back to it.

    totally agree
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Bond is undoubtedly British but belongs to the world,
    Kind of like America's Superman, but, like, not with the flying & stuff....
    :D
  • The exotic locations, the girls, the action, etc, all make Bod one of those universal characters. It doesn't matter where you come from, you can still enjoy him.
    I really see the James Bond films as yet another great Anglo-American partnership because while Bond is British, the films are made with American money in a very American style of movie making, and I've always thought that this was what made the films so successful.

    He's British, stop trying to piggy back on our success! Cmon, you guys have tons of film characters, let us have this one ;)
    But don't forget-- we have Batman. ;)

    Yeah but we have Jason Statham :P
  • Posts: 5,745
    It's great for Americans because:

    1. 90% of Americans love ESSPLOSIONS and action in general
    2. 40% of Americans are aware enough to enjoy Bond's humor
    3. 49% of Americans are male, which are genetically wired to enjoy either the women, explosions, etc.
    4. The other 51% of Americans are female, and enjoy Bond and the exotic locations (as much as the explosions and look to the women for fashion).

    Other countries look to Bond for a real sense of escapism. Many people internationally can not afford the summer and winter vacations like Americans, nor do they often get many movies at their local cinema. To them, Bond is the 'outside world' so they eat it up.

    I think spy films in general are great internationally because there's an excuse to travel the world and have one night stands.
  • Posts: 9,848
    I love Bond even though I'm American why because it's just suave and amazing and just :D
  • I'm Australian and even though there hasn't been a single Bond featuring Australia I still love the character, like come on its James Bond what's not to love its single handedly the greatest film franchise out there ( except for Batman which is either a tie or a close second), the character is universal,it is also accessible and is one great escapism films with the action and the amazing locations.
  • Posts: 1,092
    Well, I've been an Aglophile most of my life. I love anything Brittish. I went to college and got my BA in English. English Literature really, that was my main focus. Shakespeare, John Milton, Chaucer, etc. I read Tolkien when I was 12 and haven't stopped reading fantasy since. I've always loved the iconic characters the Brits have created.

    The Arthurian Legend, Robin Hood, Sherlock Holmes, James Bond, on and on. Damn you people know how to write! :-(( I also love the Brittish sense of humor. I'm a big Monty Python fan. Spaced, Faulty Towers, Bean, all that stuff is awesome. I've owned a region free DVD player for some time and buy from Amazon UK whenever I can. I started getting into other mysterious series beyond Holmes like Poirot, Inspector Morse, and so on. And I finally got around to watching Dr. Who. So wow, so much good stuff!

    For me, Bond is the crown jewel among all the Brittish franchises I am into.
  • Personally, there are many reasons Bond is my favorite. Even though I'm a U.S. citizen, my paternal and maternal grandparents are from Scotland and I started reading the novels when puberty hit and I was hooked (I've seen every film in the series in the cinema)...I could go on.
    I think the attraction to an iconic British hero like Bond is the dynamics of his personality and profession. He's an orphan - which makes him an outsider in many parts of society no matter where one lives - and didn't fit in that well in the schools he attended. It made him the ideal candidate for his profession, yet at the same time it would continually pose a challenge psychologically, because having to keep his personal relationships few in number and at a distance so he could remain detached enough to be a "blunt instrument" would just keep himforever isolated. Combine this with another of the classic, historic, literary aspects of the British - or in actuality - Celtic icon in a long line of heroes beginning with King Arthur, St. George, Robin Hood, etc., then wrap it up in a character who enjoys material luxuries only because he knows every day could be his last and fortify it with modern technology and current geopolitical threats and you have not only a real person that can be related to and appreciated (as all countries do for those who serve for the common good - police, military, medical, etc.) but also someone who we accompany on amazing adventures around the globe. There have been many adventure films that take the hero to exotic locations where they encounter beautiful women and nasty villains, but Fleming just got the mix right from the beginning (which is why he had so many copy cats). He made a character as iconic and universal as Sherlock Holmes or Tarzan, but the filmmakers took it a step further by keeping him relevant with the times.
  • Posts: 1,092
    I'd also say the film series as a whole, taken as a full half century over time, is pretty freaking impressive. Bond is an institution and for them to keep it going, at this level of quality, for as long as they have, is amazing. Being Brittish is only a bonus for Bond in my eyes.
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