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Ugh... one wonders what the hell they were thinking...
I will always consider Brosnan a 2 BAD (as in no good, poor) Bond movies guy!
Connery and Dalton and Moore and Craig have not had a Bond movie I would consider FULLY BAD!
Moore had one marginally bad but not bad enough to earn a full BAD Bond movie and that's LALD!
DAD has to rank as one of the worst in the series. It had potential but the bad CGI and awful dialogue took away any chance of this being a good Bond film. TWINE at least had a solid plot and interesting cast of characters and one of the best villains of the series, Elektra. It was let down by some poor cinematography and the lack of development of Christmas and a very odd casting choice.
Sadly Michael Apted in his attempt to make the film as melodramatic as possible, sucked the very life blood out of the film. He must have looked at FRWL and thought 'I want to recreate that!' without realising how crucial the editing, music, story telling, and characterisation is. Just because Brozzer does lots of moody glances over his shoulder doesn't make the film involving.
And when Electra asks him 'How do you stay alive?' He replies 'I take pleasure in great beauty'. And Electra seems to accept that gobbledy gook as a sufficient answer!
The action is good in places, but the parahawk sequence crashes and burns - just like the parahawks themselves in fact.
I have no issue with Denise Richards (why shouldn't a Nuclear scientist be beautiful as well?), any more than any other Bond girl. And she convinced me more than Jill St John did as a smuggler and Barbara Bach as a top Russian agent, that's for sure.
And Sophie in the red dress. Hubba!
DAD is, as everyone says, a film of two halfs. Much of the early sequences are quirky and lively. The PTS is as good as TWINE's, the scenes in the Hong Kong hotel are funny and entertaining, the Cuba scenes start so well. It all seems to go a little wrong when Jinx appears, although not because of Jinx. Her smutty dialogue with Bond is particularly embarrassing, as is their love scene.
We still have a few good scenes though(Bond's treatment of the South African drugs man, the sword fight with Graves, a few bits in the ice castle with Miranda Frost.)
The problem is, the car chase is endless, the hotrod business and the surfing are simply dreadful, and the climatic 40 minutes turned my very soul to mush. When I first saw it with 20 minutes left I remember sinking in to my seat in despear realising it had all gone terribly wrong.
Still, on balance I can watch DAD without clock watching or stealing a nap every ten minutes. At least it floats on air. TWINE just drags itself through the mud.
I've never really understood the hate for TWINE. I find it to be a middle of the pack decent flick. Granted it has it's negatives (Denise Richards and Renard) but i've never found it "soapy" as much as i've tried. It sits behind TND and GE (both of which I like a lot) in my Brosnan table but it's still a 7/10. Hang me if you want to now...
DAD on the other hand...part of only 2 bond movies I don't like and find hard to sit through. It just does absolutely nothing for me. The CGI is bad, the bond girls are bad, the villains are bad, the plot is a weird mixture of "we're trying to be really serious but ultra campy at the same time" and the locations remind me of the horrors seen before in Batman and Robin. Most strangely tho, I find it dull and uninteresting. With all of it's OTT gadgets and weirdness you'd think it would atleast be entertaining in a way..but it just isn't. I find it an absolute bore to sit through and despite a decent 30 or so first minutes..once we hit iceland, it just feels like a bad Spy Kids sequel.
I think the two films both have the same problem in a way: The back up bond girl is better than the lead Bond girl. Rosamond Pike is better than Halle Berry and Sophie Marceau eclipses Denise Richards who runs round like a cheerleader on a high, who's stolen Lara Croft's wardrobe & a copy of 'Nuclear Physics For Dummies'.
But with a gun to my head I would have to say DAD is worse. If they had cast say Uma Thurman instead of Denise Richards, it would have been a very good film http://www.rexwallpapers.com/wallpaper/Uma-thurman-4/
Far more believable nuclear physicist
Most confusing though is how Electra seems to convince Bond he was wrong to suspect her. She explains away all his suspicions and he looks confused as if he suddenly realises that his argument about Stokholm Syndrome is off the mark. He appears to believe her and wants to go with her.
Then when M turns up he's telling her he suspects Electra all over again. It's a flaw in Brosnan's performance. No logic to it. Just Brozzer desperate to cram in as much emotional response as possible.
He was actually much better in DAD. There was an actor who knew the game was up. As such he relaxed and gave a better performance.
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"He was actually much better in DAD. There was an actor who knew the game was up."
NicNac, can you explain what you mean? At the time of filming Brosnan didn't know that DAD was to be his last film. What are you referring to by Brosnan knowing "the game was up"?
It's a personal observation, I have less than no inside information. :)
As for that scene on YT (one that Ive seen many times) I suppose it does have a "television" feel to it but is that really suprising considering Apted began his career in TV. Personally Brosnan's performance hasn't bothered me the way it has with some people.
The way I saw the above scene was as follows: Bond always suspected Electra but wasn't yet certain. He backed off doing anything further as his job was still to protect her. He also still had a certain level of sympathy for the woman. However after the whole pipeline incident his suspicions were confirmed.
Do I consider TWINE one of the greatest? No. However I do enjoy watching it.
I really don't get it.
Twine was a great move on from TND, which was a great move on from GE. They dropped the ball with DAD, they dropped the ball with QOS...this happens from time to time with a franchise like Bond. Actualy, there isn`t a franchise like Bond!