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What was the profession of Andrew Bond?

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  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,127
    danielcraigbond wrote:
    marymoss wrote:
    I was wondering that too. I assumed when I saw CR that Bond came from humble roots and then went to live with a rich relative when his parents died. However, apparently, I was wrong.

    didnt casino royale establish bond was an orphan on the scene between vesper and james on the train ?

    Which is what he became when his parents died when he was still young. I don't think Skyfall contradicts what we know of Bond's past in CR, except maybe the idea that Bond was not from a wealthy family, but wealth is a relative concept.
  • VirageVirage
    Posts: 1,856
    Ludovico wrote:
    danielcraigbond wrote:
    marymoss wrote:
    I was wondering that too. I assumed when I saw CR that Bond came from humble roots and then went to live with a rich relative when his parents died. However, apparently, I was wrong.
    P
    didnt casino royale establish bond was an orphan on the scene between vesper and james on the train ?

    Which is what he became when his parents died when he was still young. I don't think Skyfall contradicts what we know of Bond's past in CR, except maybe the idea that Bond was not from a wealthy family, but wealth is a relative concept.

    They might not have been, it looked like ancestral wealth.

    However, again in the YB books Chapman has a new Bentley so....
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,127
    Virage wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    danielcraigbond wrote:
    marymoss wrote:
    I was wondering that too. I assumed when I saw CR that Bond came from humble roots and then went to live with a rich relative when his parents died. However, apparently, I was wrong.
    P
    didnt casino royale establish bond was an orphan on the scene between vesper and james on the train ?

    Which is what he became when his parents died when he was still young. I don't think Skyfall contradicts what we know of Bond's past in CR, except maybe the idea that Bond was not from a wealthy family, but wealth is a relative concept.

    They might not have been, it looked like ancestral wealth.

    However, again in the YB books Chapman has a new Bentley so....

    I understood it as ancestral wealth too.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Yes, ancestral wealth. Old family but not aristocracy or anything like that. They were not poor at all from the little that we can understand from the books, but sending him to Eton might have been quite a leap and he might have been regarded as poor in comparison with some other students there.
  • 9eor9e9eor9e
    edited November 2012 Posts: 20
    Sandy wrote:
    Yes, ancestral wealth. Old family but not aristocracy or anything like that. They were not poor at all from the little that we can understand from the books, but sending him to Eton might have been quite a leap and he might have been regarded as poor in comparison with some other students there.

    Eton might have been funded by his aunt, Charmian Bond, who lived hard by the Duck Inn at Pett Bottom (quite near me, in fact.) There's a plaque on the pub wall stating that Fleming wrote parts of YOLT there.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    danielcraigbond wrote:
    marymoss wrote:
    I was wondering that too. I assumed when I saw CR that Bond came from humble roots and then went to live with a rich relative when his parents died. However, apparently, I was wrong.

    didnt casino royale establish bond was an orphan on the scene between vesper and james on the train ?

    Vesper correctly surmised that, yes.
  • JamesBondJamesBond
    Posts: 669
    Carte Blanche heavily suggests that...
    Andrew Bond was a traitor to his country, and was a member of a Russian SMERSH division called Steel Cartridge. Although, it's unacceptable for me. It's Campion Bond who's the traitor in the Bond family, not Andrew.

    Anyway, the idea that suggests it was...
    a murder, I agree, because it's true. In my second novel, I have a chapter specialized for it and tells the story from a third-person perspective.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    JamesBond wrote:
    Carte Blanche heavily suggests that...
    Andrew Bond was a traitor to his country, and was a member of a Russian SMERSH division called Steel Cartridge. Although, it's unacceptable for me. It's Campion Bond who's the traitor in the Bond family, not Andrew.

    Anyway, the idea that suggests it was...
    a murder, I agree, because it's true. In my second novel, I have a chapter specialized for it and tells the story from a third-person perspective.

    Forget about Carte Blanche!
  • JamesBondJamesBond
    Posts: 669
    I will.
  • db5007db5007
    Posts: 61
    In the Fleming books (Moonraker) it is stated that Bond, in addition to his Civil Service salary (£1,500 a year - 1950s money) he has a further "personal" tax-free income of £1,000. I guess a family trust left to him in his parents will.

    In Pearson's "biography" of James Bond he suggests that Bond's mother has some mental health issues. She believes the Russians are spying on them because of Andrew Bond's work in armanents. When staying in Switzerland recovering she leaves their home one day and climbs the nearby mountain. Bond's father goes after her but they both fall when he trys to bring her back down the mountain. Its left unanswered whether it was a pure accident or if she pushed them both off the mountainside.
  • JamesBondJamesBond
    Posts: 669
    db5007 wrote:
    In the Fleming books (Moonraker) it is stated that Bond, in addition to his Civil Service salary (£1,500 a year - 1950s money) he has a further "personal" tax-free income of £1,000. I guess a family trust left to him in his parents will.

    In Pearson's "biography" of James Bond he suggests that Bond's mother has some mental health issues. She believes the Russians are spying on them because of Andrew Bond's work in armanents. When staying in Switzerland recovering she leaves their home one day and climbs the nearby mountain. Bond's father goes after her but they both fall when he trys to bring her back down the mountain. Its left unanswered whether it was a pure accident or if she pushed them both off the mountainside.

    It was no accident, it was a set up. Want to know more? Let me know.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    JamesBond wrote:
    Carte Blanche heavily suggests that...
    Andrew Bond was a traitor to his country, and was a member of a Russian SMERSH division called Steel Cartridge. Although, it's unacceptable for me. It's Campion Bond who's the traitor in the Bond family, not Andrew.

    Anyway, the idea that suggests it was...
    a murder, I agree, because it's true. In my second novel, I have a chapter specialized for it and tells the story from a third-person perspective.

    Yeah, well Deaver got a lot wrong about Bond. Like, you, know, his behaviors, his personality, his work, his backstory, etc.
  • JamesBondJamesBond
    Posts: 669
    Agreed.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited November 2012 Posts: 15,127
    Sandy wrote:
    Yes, ancestral wealth. Old family but not aristocracy or anything like that. They were not poor at all from the little that we can understand from the books, but sending him to Eton might have been quite a leap and he might have been regarded as poor in comparison with some other students there.

    That's what I thought too, actually even in CR that is what was implied I think. The Bonds had to earn their money, make a living. Not working class, but rather educated/higher middle class that were trying to go up the ladder. My idea is that Andrew Bond must have been some kind of civil servant, maybe in the military at some point.

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