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No need to be a smart ass! I don't think anybody understood what James Bond was doing at that for. (Even Sir Roger Moore said that) So stop getting a boo boo face everytimme someone talks about the flaws in Quantum of Solace.
It isn't a flaw just because you don't understand the character of Bond and what he is going through. I thought it was obvious to see that his denial (and calling Vesper a bitch) was his way of acting like she meant nothing to him. As I said, he let his guard down, let her in, and he fell hard, only to get betrayed. It hurts for him to admit it to M on the phone, and especially to himself. That is not a flaw, but one of the greatest takes on the character ever, continued beautifully in the scenes I explained from QoS.
I am protective of my QoS, so when the obvious is criticized as a major flaw I go on defense.
I do understand the James Bond charcter & what he was going through in the film. (Obviously) I understand he did care about Vesper. However, James Bond said in the begining of the film that Vesper did not mean nothing to him & niether her boyfriend. So he went though hell & back to avenge Vesper's death. (Even though he said he didn't care about her) It probably left people scratching their heads.
He wasn't, that is what I am trying to explain. Good god, I would love to see some people watch Citizen Kane and explain Charles Foster's mindset. They'd probably say he was a looney if they can't fathom why Bond acts this way.
That's the whole point. He wants to act like she means nothing to him t not appear vulnerable, while he himself still cares deeply for Vesper. Basically he spends most of the film lying about his true love for her, and doesn't want to admit all she meant to him to M or himself. In that very scene where he says she means nothing to him, he quickly takes Vesper's photo with Yusef off the table and puts it in his suit coat while M turns away. Why else would he take it if he wasn't so in love with her? You see him glaring at it with pain later on in the plane sequence with Mathis as well. This is all rather elementary stuff, film character studies 101.
Good point about the picture; that is the big reveal that he has yet to let her go in any way...similarly later with the drinking on the plane.
DAD was the 40th anniversary film. That would never have happened.
@0BradyM0Bondfanatic7. You are a cool guy. I have nothing against you .Again, your one of the coolset guy's on the threads. Again, I enjoyed Quantum of Solace. I wasn't trying to trash the film. I also apologize for my comment on my first post.
The thoughts are reciprocal, mate. :)>-
U see everyone? QOS causes unity...and solace.;)
Its a top 10 Bond film for me. Craig greatest performance and of any Bond is in this film. the first 15 minutes are Bond at his best and the film doesn't dip below average apart from odd few minutes. I can see why some Bond fans don't like it cause its a film that needs rewatching a few more times to get it. Its not Craigs greatest Bond film and unless he makes a outright stinker and if this is his weakest of his Bond effots thats pretty good going.
QoS, for all its faults, tries at least to be a decent movie for the most part. The acting is fairly top notch, Arnold's score is great, Craig is on top form, and the film is not plagued with any of the horrendous tacky moments which are jam-packed to the brim in DAD.
Couple that with the brilliant Aston Martin PTS car chase, and comparing it to the invisible chase on ice in DAD, and you can see the vast difference in quality with these 2 pictures. Forster attempts multi-complex layers in his direction, where as Tamawhore is all about flashy gimmicks, ZX Spectrum CGI effects and Austin Powers one-liners.
Nope, there is no competition here with this one I'm afraid.
Bond meeting Mathis at his pad, puts me in mind of meeting the sleeper agent in DAD. Young, ineffectual villain, better suited to Midsomer Murders. Unappealing leading lady. Slightly bizarre villain hideout stuck in the middle of nowhere and strangely undermanned. But most damningly, though both are trying to be different films, both step outside their comfort zone in terms of what is strictly believable, be it the invisible car and parasurfing, or the gratuitous dog fight, CGI and freefall.
I'm going to second this. QOS also has a brilliant opening sequence and Craig is a far superior actor and Bond compared with Brosnan. DAD is borderline parody.
This.
I don't rate DAD at all. It's actually a disgrace.