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Little Things in Bond Movies you Didn't Notice Before!

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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    You mean TND.
  • emilbertilloemilbertillo
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    While rewatching Skyfall last night, I've noticed a few very very subtle references, especially in the Casino scene:

    -When Bond entered the casino he told Moneypenny "Don't touch your ear." It's reminiscent of Bond's orders to Carter in Madagascar.
    -I'm not sure if I've heard it correctly, but Severine told Bond that if he survived, she will wait for him at the dock called Palmyra. Plamyra is also the name of Largo's estate in Thunderball.
    -Bond using a reptile as a step is like the famous crocodile-stepping scene in Live and Let Die.
  • 00Ed00Ed
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    -- When I saw YOLT on the big screen I noticed, for the first time, the body flying out of the last helicopter that Bond shot down in the Little Nellie scene.

    -- When I saw GF on the big screen, I was shocked at how obvious the strings on the airplane were. They were never that visible on VHS.
  • SlyFox007SlyFox007
    edited March 2013 Posts: 414
    Would take forever for me to list them. One of the reasons I love the Bond movies so much: no matter how many times I watch them, I'm always catching new "little things."

    One of the most recent: in Skyfall, Bill Tanner mentions "rats" long before Silva does.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited March 2013 Posts: 4,399
    emilbertillo wrote:
    -I'm not sure if I've heard it correctly, but Severine told Bond that if he survived, she will wait for him at the dock called Palmyra. Plamyra is also the name of Largo's estate in Thunderball.[/i]

    close..

    but she actually says "i'm on the Chimera" (pronounced Ky-mir-ah)... that was the name of the boat.. there is a track on Newman's score called the same as well.

    it may not be something you miss upon first watch, but it's something that always makes me laugh..

    @1:50... not only the sissy punch that Bond throws, but the fact that the guard was laid out with it... no wonder the Soviet Union collapsed lol..



    sometimes i have a habit of noticing similar sound effects repeatedly used...

    like in TND, when Bond sneaks into Carver's building - the same sound effect used for the roof door opening into Gupta's office, is the same sound effect used in TWINE when Christmas gets the control panel for the bunker doors working.... sadly i noticed that the first time watching TWINE in the theaters.

    also.. in DAD, during the hovercraft chase - Bond side swipes another hovercraft, sending it pinwheeling through the air, crashing onto a bunker, thus making the bunker explode.... however, the hovercraft lands nowhere close to the bunker, but the bunker manages to explode anyway.

    Mod edit: quadruple post merged into one. Please use the edit button.
  • TuuliaTuulia
    edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    SlyFox007 wrote:
    Would take forever for me to list them. One of the reasons I love the Bond movies so much: no matter how many times I watch them, I'm always catching new "little things."

    One of the most recent: in Skyfall, Bill Tanner mentions "rats" long before Silva does.

    Me too.

    And yes, there's always far too much to take in on first viewing. The second time I was watching it, as soon as Tanner says "Quite fascinating if it wasn't for the rats" I believe I grinned... :D I think I didn't notice the "smell the rat" bit the first time, either - possibly reading subtitles and thereby distracted, the idiot that I am... (the "rat" doesn't translate in that expression), but honestly it's sort of automatic when you're used to reading them, and ignoring them is difficult.
    HASEROT wrote:

    --- but she actually says "i'm on the Chimera" (pronounced Ky-mir-ah)... that was the name of the boat.. there is a track on Newman's score called the same as well.

    I love little things like that and Bond films are full of them. Severine's boat being called Chimera, the fire-breathing female creature consisting of different animals is just perfect. About as perfect as her employer's real first name being Tiago. The paintings. (I admit I wouldn't have recognized any of them, so needed help with them.) The two songs Silva plays and so on. Who knows how many things there are one may never even realize. When watching Sam's commentary on Revolutionary Road I had to laugh at his little Titanic reference (picture taken off the wall, waiting to be packed), which I certainly never would have noticed if he hadn't mentioned it. Some day (sigh) I'll be able to watch the Skyfall commentary and will probably learn something new again.

  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    Tuulia wrote:
    I love little things like that and Bond films are full of them. Severine's boat being called Chimera, the fire-breathing female creature consisting of different animals is just perfect. About as perfect as her employer's real first name being Tiago. The paintings. (I admit I wouldn't have recognized any of them, so needed help with them.) The two songs Silva plays and so on. Who knows how many things there are one may never even realize. When watching Sam's commentary on Revolutionary Road I had to laugh at his little Titanic reference (picture taken off the wall, waiting to be packed), which I certainly never would have noticed if he hadn't mentioned it. Some day (sigh) I'll be able to watch the Skyfall commentary and will probably learn something new again.

    and Skyfall also apparently might continue the tradition in the Craig Bond films, of having a villain with a color reference to their name..

    Mr. White - White (CR, QOS)
    Dominic Greene - Green (QOS)
    Edmund Slate - Slate (QOS)
    Raoul Silva - Silver (SF)

    i do believe the Silva/Silver connection is stretching it a bit.. Silva is not spanish for Silver, but it does sort of sound like Silver when you say it.

  • TuuliaTuulia
    edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    Oh thanks, I didn't even know slate was a color, and my Brit dictionary didn't mention that, either, but the American one did (describing it as "dull, dark bluish gray"). One learns new stuff every day. :)

    I agree with you about Silva, it's streching it, though I can sort of grudgingly accept that interpretation (I never would have thought of it myself and don't like it). Still, I don't think it sounds like silver, either (if pronounced in the "regular" way, regional accents are another matter). The name is more Portuguese than Spanish, anyway, I guess I should check if the meaning of the word is the same in Portuguese as it is in Spanish...
    Tuulia wrote:
    fire-breathing

    Writing things down is helpful. I only now realized why she had to be shown smoking and blowing out smoke. :\">
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    HASEROT wrote:
    and Skyfall also apparently might continue the tradition in the Craig Bond films, of having a villain with a color reference to their name..

    Mr. White - White (CR, QOS)
    Dominic Greene - Green (QOS)
    Edmund Slate - Slate (QOS)
    Raoul Silva - Silver (SF)

    i do believe the Silva/Silver connection is stretching it a bit.. Silva is not spanish for Silver, but it does sort of sound like Silver when you say it.
    While we're on the topic, here's all the non-Craig era characters with colours in their name:

    Donald 'Red' Grant
    Auric Goldfinger
    Willard Whyte
    Sir Frederick Gray
    Achille Aubergine
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Tuulia wrote:
    Oh thanks, I didn't even know slate was a color, and my Brit dictionary didn't mention that, either, but the American one did (describing it as "dull, dark bluish gray"). One learns new stuff every day. :)

    I agree with you about Silva, it's streching it, though I can sort of grudgingly accept that interpretation (I never would have thought of it myself and don't like it). Still, I don't think it sounds like silver, either (if pronounced in the "regular" way, regional accents are another matter). The name is more Portuguese than Spanish, anyway, I guess I should check if the meaning of the word is the same in Portuguese as it is in Spanish...
    Tuulia wrote:
    fire-breathing

    Writing things down is helpful. I only now realized why she had to be shown smoking and blowing out smoke. :\">

    Silva is the name given commonly in portuguese to the wild spiked plants that produce berries, usually blackberries. It is however most commonly associated with the thorns than with the berries ;)
    It is also the most common portuguese surname.
    QBranch wrote:
    HASEROT wrote:
    and Skyfall also apparently might continue the tradition in the Craig Bond films, of having a villain with a color reference to their name..

    Mr. White - White (CR, QOS)
    Dominic Greene - Green (QOS)
    Edmund Slate - Slate (QOS)
    Raoul Silva - Silver (SF)

    i do believe the Silva/Silver connection is stretching it a bit.. Silva is not spanish for Silver, but it does sort of sound like Silver when you say it.
    While we're on the topic, here's all the non-Craig era characters with colours in their name:

    Donald 'Red' Grant
    Auric Goldfinger
    Willard Whyte
    Sir Frederick Gray
    Achille Aubergine

    That's very interesting, this obcession with colour-sounding names /:)
  • TuuliaTuulia
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    Sandy wrote:
    Silva is the name given commonly in portuguese to the wild spiked plants that produce berries, usually blackberries. It is however most commonly associated with the thorns than with the berries ;)
    It is also the most common portuguese surname.

    Thank you. Perfect. :)

  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    this isn't something little, but something i noticed while recently going back and watching Tomorrow Never Dies...

    as you recall in the PTS, Admiral Roebuck launches a cruise missile to destroy the arms bazaar - 007 shows mi6 that there is nuclear torpedoes on one of the fighter jets... now, once the abortion of the missile fails, everyone becomes paranoid about the missile explosion triggering the torpedoes - so now it's up to 007 to get them out quickly..... and how does he start off doing it? - BY EXPLODING ANY AND EVERYTHING SURROUNDING THE BLOODY THINGS!!... they just should've rolled the dice and hoped the missile wouldn't have detonated the torpedoes - it's not like Bond did any less damage beforehand lol..
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    This is so cool:
    http://007underthemangotree.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/woman-with-fan/comment-page-1/#comment-58

    Just goes to show you that Skyfall is full to the brim with little winks and clever references.
  • 00130013
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    This is so cool:
    http://007underthemangotree.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/woman-with-fan/comment-page-1/#comment-58

    Just goes to show you that Skyfall is full to the brim with little winks and clever references.

    That's interesting @0Brady!
    I knew Modigliani and his art is easy to recognize but I didn't knew that this one was stolen (and therefore that was a connection with DN). I thought it was choosen because of the similarity with Severine.
  • Skyfall007silvaSkyfall007silva
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    I finally get Skyfall in three days :D but watching clips online and stuff, I noticed lots of very subtle product placement, which I didn't take in any of the numerous times I first seen the film.

    -There is a crate full of Heineken when Patrice spins his bike around and prepares to go up the stairs.
    -You have the obvious ones such as Bond, Tanner drinking Heineken.
    -When Bond is at the bar in Shanghai, over the counter in the bridge, is a full shelf of Heineken.
    -When Bond is on the train chasing Silva, he walks past a man, holding coke Zero, and the man does his best to secretly display the bottle.
    - 'His keen to get home', over on the wall of the station is a large banner for coke.
    -When Silva is given the package by his men dressed as police, he walks past a poster for Omega.
  • TuuliaTuulia
    edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    Has that painting stuff not been discussed here months ago? Oh, ok. I thought it would have been, I haven't had a chance to read everything. But if it hasn't been, then maybe the painting in the new M's office hasn't been discussed, either? Apparently it shows the Battle of Trafalgar with HMS Victory (where Nelson got fatally wounded from a gunshot, got to hear of British victory before dying, was kissed goodbye by his captain...), and with Temeraire - the same ship as seen earlier being towed for scrap, but here in full battle mode. :)

    No idea what Moneypenny's painting is. If anyone has any idea, do share.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited March 2013 Posts: 28,694
    Tuulia wrote:
    Has that painting stuff not been discussed here months ago? Oh, ok. I thought it would have been, I haven't had a chance to read everything. But if it hasn't been, then maybe the painting in the new M's office hasn't been discussed, either? Apparently it shows the Battle of Trafalgar with HMS Victory (where Nelson got fatally wounded from a gunshot, got to hear of British victory before dying, was kissed goodbye by his captain...), and with Temeraire - the same ship as seen earlier being towed for scrap, but here in full battle mode. :)

    THAT. IS. AWESOME!!! Where do we see the painting at of M's? Do you have any links on the paintings and their relation to Skyfall?
  • TuuliaTuulia
    edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    ^^ The final scene, it's seen for several seconds, between M and Bond, right after M asks "Are you ready to get back to work?" Here from 1:11.


    Moneypenny's painting is seen earlier in the same clip, also impossible to miss since she walks and stands right in front of it. A meaningful painting, too, in some way, for sure. Who's that little bust of, seen behind M's right shoulder? His lions are there on the sides of his table now and facing forward... they were sideways in his earlier office and not on his desk, either. Now lions... hmmm... Lots of animals in this movie - not actual animals, but statues big and small (stags, lions), then the dragons, and purely symbolic (rats, and a chimera - mythic creature and a combination of several animals=Severine)... Oh and an Animals track. :))
    I'll check for links in a minute...
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Here is a great link talking about some of the paintings and how it connects to the film:
    http://jibridgland.blogspot.com/2012/11/skyfall-and-painting-in-ms-office.html
  • TuuliaTuulia
    edited March 2013 Posts: 2,081
    ^^ Was just about to post that, too... :) The rest below. Some interpretations get weird - really, really weird - and go too far, IMO, but on the other hand it's all subjective. The art history stuff is interesting even when I don't agree with what people make of it sometimes.

    http://jibridgland.blogspot.fi/2012/10/new-q-in-skyfall.html
    http://jibridgland.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/that-stolen-modigliani-painting-in.html
    http://jibridgland.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/name-that-painting.html

    http://blogs.fin24.com/bertieduplessis/tag/skyfall/

    http://007underthemangotree.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/a-bloody-big-ship/

    http://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/articles/art-skyfall

    http://matchajelly.tumblr.com/post/36723538309/behind-the-beautiful-paintings-featured-in

    http://thefineartdiner.blogspot.fi/2012/11/skyfall-englands-greatest-painting.html
    http://thefineartdiner.blogspot.fi/2012/11/skyfall-notations.html
    http://thefineartdiner.blogspot.fi/2012/11/last-rat-standing-skyfall-question-of.html

  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    TOFANA007 wrote:
    thuough not immeditly evident, in AVTAK roger moore has actually been repleced with an ANCIENT mummy of old

    Hahaha, that was actually pretty funny.
  • hullcityfanhullcityfan Banned
    edited June 2013 Posts: 496
    I swear I saw Roger Moore in OHMSS I was reading this Bond books and it showed Bond and Tracy married and I'm sure Moore was in the background. But I can't find a picture I will find more! Also you see Bernard Lee's portrait in the background of TWINE. Also you see Michael G. Wilson in loads of films: GF tall Korean guard, MR, walks past the Venini glass window in Venice and then later in the control room at NASA. FYEO , Greek Orthodox priest. OP, tourist on the boat after being chase by Kamal Khan. TLD , you see him behind Saunders , GE you see him at the Russian Defence Council . TND you see him at Carvers party in Hamburg. TWINE , he is at the Casino. DAD ,you see him leaning against the car in Havana, then as a US General in the command bunker South Korea. CR he is the corrupt chief of police in Montenegro. QoS you see him about 2 rows behind Mr. White at the Opera.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    hullcityfan wrote:
    I swear I saw Roger Moore in OHMSS I was reading this Bond books and it showed Bond and Tracy married and I'm sure Moore was in the background. But I can't find a picture I will find more! Also you see Bernard Lee's portrait in the background of TWINE. Also you see Michael G. Wilson in loads of films: GF tall Korean guard, MR, walks past the Venini glass window in Venice and then later in the control room at NASA. FYEO , Greek Orthodox priest. OP, tourist on the boat after being chase by Kamal Khan. TLD , you see him behind Saunders , GE you see him at the Russian Defence Council . TND you see him at Carvers party in Hamburg. TWINE , he is at the Casino. DAD ,you see him leaning against the car in Havana, then as a US General in the command bunker South Korea. CR he is the corrupt chief of police in Montenegro. QoS you see him about 2 rows behind Mr. White at the Opera.

    MGW is also in the lobby of the hotel in Haiti reading a newspaper when Bond gets the briefcase.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    And he is standing just behind Tanner when he says to M that they have to leave the "funeral" in SF.
  • hullcityfanhullcityfan Banned
    edited June 2013 Posts: 496
    MrBond wrote:
    And he is standing just behind Tanner when he says to M that they have to leave the "funeral" in SF.

    Which bits that I thought he might be in SF. @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 I'll have to look out for him next time.
    Also aren't them lumps of rock in TND when their setting off to the stealth boat the same as the ones near Scaramangas island in TMWGG?
  • hullcityfanhullcityfan Banned
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    I've also noticed another one in the book Drax was a Nazi (hope no one minds me saying this) and then got changed into an English man. Hitler thought the perfect race was people with Blonde hair and blue eyes and most of the people on board the space ship had exactly that!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    hullcityfan wrote:
    I've also noticed another one in the book Drax was a Nazi (hope no one minds me saying this) and then got changed into an English man. Hitler thought the perfect race was people with Blonde hair and blue eyes and most of the people on board the space ship had exactly that!

    That does surprisingly make a lot of sense. Hitler has his "genetically perfect" army of men, and Drax (of the film) was trying to start humanity anew by having subjects with the best genes mate after the rest of human life on earth had been wiped out. They differ in areas, but there are also a lot of similarities there too, I must say.
  • hullcityfanhullcityfan Banned
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    hullcityfan wrote:
    I've also noticed another one in the book Drax was a Nazi (hope no one minds me saying this) and then got changed into an English man. Hitler thought the perfect race was people with Blonde hair and blue eyes and most of the people on board the space ship had exactly that!

    That does surprisingly make a lot of sense. Hitler has his "genetically perfect" army of men, and Drax (of the film) was trying to start humanity anew by having subjects with the best genes mate after the rest of human life on earth had been wiped out. They differ in areas, but there are also a lot of similarities there too, I must say.

    The stuff you notice when your asleep. :)
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    edited October 2013 Posts: 7,314
    This is completely random and probably unrelated but in Moonraker when Bond finds the Drax Air Freight patch it made me think of the initials DAF. These are the initials for another Bond movie that doesn't take itself seriously. Perhaps there is some connection?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I noticed for the first time that the boat James Bond is brought in on in TWINE to the Maiden's Tower is called Seventh Heaven, an interesting phrase associated with Bond in Double-O Seventh Heaven.
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