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Man, I want some good news in these categories, asap (I think I will have a long wait):
Deakins confirmed, then main villain announced.
Eliana Alexander
Isabelle Huppert
Catherine McCormack
Do Thi Hai Yen
Connie Nielsen
Andie MacDowell
Vanessa Redgrave
Jane Fonda
Connie Nielsen http://images.tvrage.com/news/boss-s-connie-nielsen-joins-the-following-possibly-major-spoiler-included.jpg
From my Bond girl nominations i consider those also as villian:
Samantha Lockwood
Leelee Sobieski
Alma S. Grey
Rachel Skarsten
Jennifer Lothrop
Amy Hunter
Patti D'Arbanville
That's why if they go that route, I would prefer to have an older woman.
Interesting to read about the original concept for Octopussy. Sounds a bit John Gardner though...
Yes, good one. I actually thought that Elektra King had a bit of Lady Macbeth about her in a recent viewing of TWINE. Just look at how she goads her Macbeths (Renard AND Bond) into getting her own way on pain of death! Her name "King" is in itself rather male (i.e. removing from her breast the "milk of human kindness") and making her both an honorary male and regal with it too. It also smacks a bit of the Emperor's New Clothes in that she kills her father to avenge her mother and her mother's heritage and usurps her father's male dominating place as place as patriarch and head of the King oil business, Elektra-like. I still think that film stands up very well even now, although it gets a very poor rap here on MI6 Community and other Bond forums for reasons I've never fully fathomed myself. It pre-dates the more serious road taken by the Craig Bonds, although it is very unfashionable to say that nowadays of course. As one of the Bond film books says, it's almost as if they sat down and thought about it with TWINE when compared with previous more lightweight Bond capers. The very same is true of SF of course. A lot of thought went into that one to make it the very best Bond film in years.
The John Gardner one - do you mean Nena Blofeld there? I see a link between Octopussy and that too - in the way she is revealed. Octopussy as a character and indeed the film of the same name is itself in essence Gardneresque in places (right down to the very convoluted plot-line, too!) and presumably that is not a coincidence given the fact that the novel For Special Services and film Octopussy appeared in 1982 and 1983 respectively.
When was the last time we had a truly fine and memorable female villain ? Sophie Marceau did an adequate job, but she was simply the best of a poor lot going back far enough to characters such as Paluzzi's Volpe or Ilse Steppat's Bunt in On Her Majestys Secret Service
I don't know if a female "main" villain would work now. We certainly need a marked improvement in the 'bad girl' department after recent years, as they've been disappointing, but would be content to see them continue as allies of the main adversary and nothing more. No need for change on this issue you truly feel
The trick would be to create a female enemy that seemed to be a match for Bond and a real threat to him without making her some kind of outlandish ninja-woman or anything similarly campy that wouldn't fit with the more down-to-earth tone of the Craig films.
Perhaps a mature woman in a position of political power who happens to be pulling the strings on some vast conspiracy, like a cross between Thatcher and Blofeld. Jodie Foster's performance in Elysium might be along the lines of what I have in mind.
That's not a bad shout.
Maybe Bond 24 can take place on Island in Thailand. :))
Tilda Swinton would be an excellent villain!
Tilda, yes. Helen Mirren is still my first choice, though.
Like others have stated, I don't want a martial arts demonstrating, super fit evil female villain - I want a powerful, charismatic and lethal female villain. An actress who has the strength of personality and acting chops to make this role memorable. And let's hope the script does her justice.
Having just written that, I realize of course that Logan may well not have a female head villain for Bond 24. But it is still a good idea and I hope it happens soon enough. I would love for the head of Quantum to be a female, and I do hope they bring Quantum back in a good way, with a smart script.
Even then, people argue who the main villain in the film was, Elektra or Renard, and since it seems that the latter was the main villain, we're all talking about a main female villain this time around.
Yes, I can see that argument though I consider Elekta as the main villain in TWINE and the puppet-master. Look at how she goes about manipulating both Bond and Renard, if any proof of her cold and calculating nature were needed.
So does Michael Apted, that's what he said in interviews anyway, but in TWINE it is rather unclear. One of the main problems I have with TWINE: instead of making two main villains well and give them justice, like in FRWL (both novel and film), it goes from one to the other and does not decide. I am rather unconvinced by Elektra anyway and I would much, much rather see a female villain with more gravitas.
Well, I think that it was Michael Apted and his wife that rewrote the part of Elektra King in TWINE to beef up the drama of her part in the plot. Apted was a documentary director, so he was well used to drama and that is what TWINE is in many parts in between the overuse of action scenes. I think Renard was the surrogate villain at the start in order to take us off the scent of Elektra being the villain, but later the roles were reversed and it's clear that Elektra is the manipulator/dominatrix that pulls the strings of Renard to such an extent that the dying anarchist is willing to commit suicide to see her plan to irradiate the area and leave her in charge of the monopoly of oil that will result.
He was. It was outacted in every scene by Marceau. But since Apteds (or Apteds wife) attempted to bring melodrama to a Bond film ended in a big wet splat for everyone. He shouldn't take the blame.
I always think Klebb is the main villain in FRWL. Blofeld is too in the shadows.
How about Shirley Carter in EE for the next villainess. She looks pure evil.
Yes, most certainly. Blofeld is merely in the background just like in TB the film (and novel) too.
Makes me wonder if anyone related to the films reads these pages and thinks of our ideas...