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I think the one we can ALL agree on, is Casino Royale- whats a tour de farce !!
Calvin Dyson... a troll such as yourself would have no idea who he is.
He is the exception confirming the rule. FRWL is praised by fans, critics and also (and this is a very important point) by many people that are or were involved in the series. Connery said it was his favorite, Brosnan kept saying he wanted a FRWL-type Bond movie, etc. I take Michael Apted thought little of it, since he said Elektra was the first credible female villain, but again this is an exception. And a crass comment that made me lose a lot of respect for the man and see TWINE in a much more negative light,
Most reviled: DAD
There's really no argument here. This is how it is.
On the bottom : DAD, QOS
QOS has also many defenders, way more than DAD. I also think that many people who are critical about it wouldn't go as far as saying it is the worst. If anything, QOS is one of the most divisive Bond movie.
True. I'm one of those QoS defenders. It may be flawed, but it has many good sides too. I still rank it in my top 10.
I am one of its defenders too, not that I find it that great, but certainly underrated. I think it is still a solid Bond. We may be in the minority thinking this, but not to the point of being marginal.
Well as a whole it might not work that well, but I find the acting terriffic (with extra respect for Olga, as she was hardly an actress when she was cast and I think she did a hell of a job!) and some scenes are bound to be classics, the Tosca scene in particular. A film with those qualities just can't be considered as bad as DAD, in which you find Starwars, Robocop and Bond all combined into one film. It just isn't Bond's world (and neither is Moonraker, which might be universally be rated low as well).
I agree that QOS is controversial and divisive rather than consensual.
Okay, a tipsy one.
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It is still very consensual to loathe DAD, moreso than QOS. Every Bond movie, good or bad, has its share of detractors or defendors. But I doubt you will find many Bond fans or even critics thinking FRWL is bad, or even mediocre.
General public, yes. I think when it comes to movie critics and professionals, probably more FRWL.
I think OHMSS is pretty consensual among the fans, maybe now among critics: it's considered one of the best ones. Among the general public, it is more divided, maybe even consensual, but on the polar opposite side.
Yes, I agree. Fleming purists such as myself view OHMSS as if it were manna from heaven, but Joe Public is not as clued up on James Bond and so is more familiar with the Lewis Gilbert directed (and universally known) James Bond films of "a man jumping out of a plane" variety, as a customer recently described his awareness of the James Bond films to me!
And Joe Public is coming around to OHMSS. Once they actually agree to see it and then actually watch it, they become fans.
I often heard people not liking it because Bond fell in love in it and that should not happen and so on and so forth. But that was a while ago and obviously before CR. I actually had to explain this to a friend, why in CR it made sense that Bond fell in love, because for him, it was simply unthinkable.
The original version of the film was released on VHS toward the end of the '80s and public opinion has been slowly but inexorably moving in the opposite direction ever since.
Many people--and I'm one of them--consider GF dramatically overrated.
It's really gone down in my ranking though. After Bond slaps Dink, there is no pizazz.
Other Bond-related matters where the media in my country seem to be in almost complete agreement:
-- Ursula Andress as the best Bond Girl.
-- Shirley Bassey's 'Goldfinger' as the best Title Song.
-- Timothy Dalton as a lousy Bond (the media have always seemed to nurse a grudge against this guy because of how things went down in '86).
-- Pierce Brosnan as an essentially perfect James Bond, just a hair behind Connery.
It's always pissed me off, too. How is it Dalton's fault NBC wanted to renew their crappy TV series with Brosnan? They got what they wanted in the end anyway, four movies with the worst choice for Bond ever, so I've never understood why they continue to castigate Dalton for no reason at all.
Obviously the sooner this cretin is gone the better but on this occasion he has actually nailed this thread.
I don't think there's anyone dead or alive including hardcore fans, critics, the general public and even poor old Charlie Feldman himself who wouldn't say that CR67 is an absolute aberration of cinema.
Mind you illUMA69N4UGHTY69 is probably referring to CR06.
Would the average non-Bond fan have much memory of TLD or OP and would many younger people today have even seen the Connery films?
Among critics and general public it is considered the very best though. I would say among the fans it is not so unanimous. I find TB in many ways superior, but this is also a controversial opinion.
Most say Goldfinger is a fine watch and 'one of the best', but I always fail to see that, in that's it's simply a poor and dull viewing, totally devoid of movement or action. If that's not the peoples favorite, then Dr No, From Russia With Love, OHMSS for example would have to join in, or take over. All about age perspective and your actual level of enthusiasm for the James Bond franchise and all it entails, I guess