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  • 1. Dalton
    2. Craig
    3. Connery
    4. Lazenby
    5. Brosnan



    6. Moore
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    1) Connery
    2) Moore

    Three thru five are all interchangeable
    3) Lazenby
    4) Dalton
    5) Craig

    6) Brosnan
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Objectively, I would put them in this order.
    1) Connery
    2) Craig
    3) Moore
    4) Dalton
    5) Brosnan
    6) Lazenby

    As far as my personal list goes...
    1) Moore
    2) Connery
    3) Craig
    4) Brosnan
    5) Dalton
    6) Lazenby
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Any list that does not include Dalton in the top two is null & void IMO. :))
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited January 2014 Posts: 45,489
    Some have asked for an average ranking, and here it is. I went back through this thread until October 2012 when SF was released and added every ranking up, giving 4p to each no1, 3p to no2, 2p to no3, 1p to no4, 0p to no5 and minus 1p to last place. Just to make it more interesting and see if George could manage a positive end score.

    1.Sean Connery 328 p
    2.Daniel Craig 248 p
    3.Timothy Dalton 213 p
    4.Roger Moore 118 p
    5.Pierce Brosnan 84 p
    6.George Lazenby 15 p

    Personally I would have swapped George and Pierce, but some of you will be happy to see that you are in the majority with your ranking, others not so much.
  • I don't think it's really fair to include Lazenby in a ranking of the Bond actors simply for lack of source material. He only did one movie in which he was perfectly fine, nothing special, but the movie happens to be probably the best Bond film of all time from a cinematic perspective, if not at least the best pre-reboot. However, there's not enough time to judge him fairly. With that in mind, I have ranked the Bonds by category:

    Overall (strength of movies combined with all other factors):
    1. Dalton
    2. Connery
    3. Craig
    4. Brosnan
    5. Moore

    Portrayal (how the character is approached and acted):
    1. Dalton
    2. Craig
    3. Connery DN-TB
    4.Brosnan
    5. Connery YOLT/DAF
    6. Moore

    Douchiness (an often overlooked but IMO important characteristic of Bond)
    1. Connery
    2. Craig
    3. Brosnan
    4. Dalton
    5. Moore

    Action (Including Lazenby)
    1. Craig
    2. Lazenby
    3. Dalton
    4T. Brosnan/Connery
    6. Moore

    Swagger:
    1. Brosnan
    2. Connery
    3. Craig
    4. Moore
    5. Dalton

    Sex Appeal:
    1. Connery
    2. Brosnan
    3. Craig
    4. Moore LALD-TSWLM
    5. Dalton
    6. Moore MR-AVTAK

    Acting Credentials (strength outside Bond):
    1. Connery
    2. Dalton
    3. Craig
    4. Moore
    5. Brosnan
    6. Lazenby
  • Overall

    Dalton
    Connery
    Craig
    Moore
    Brosnan
    Lazenby

    Portrayal

    Dalton
    Connery
    Craig
    Moore
    Lazenby
    Brosnan

    Action

    Craig
    Moore
    Brosnan
    Connery
    Dalton
    Lazenby

    Swagger

    Brosnan
    Craig
    Moore
    Connery
    Lazenby
    Dalton

    Appeal

    Connery
    Dalton
    Moore
    Craig
    Lazenby
    Brosnan

    Acting credentials

    Dalton
    Connery
    Moore
    Brosnan
    Craig
    Lazenby
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    1. Brosnan
    2. Craig
    3. Dalton
    4. Connery
    5. Moore
    6. Lazenby
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    There is only one Bond actor who never ever has been at the bottom of any ranking. You know his name, I guess.
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    There is only one Bond actor who never ever has been at the bottom of any ranking. You know his name, I guess.

    I actually saw Connery ranked worst one time. Only one time, ever.
  • Posts: 1,052
    There is only one Bond actor who never ever has been at the bottom of any ranking. You know his name, I guess.

    I actually saw Connery ranked worst one time. Only one time, ever.

    perhaps they had only seen DAF and NSNA.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    There is only one Bond actor who never ever has been at the bottom of any ranking. You know his name, I guess.

    I actually saw Connery ranked worst one time. Only one time, ever.

    perhaps they had only seen DAF and NSNA.

    One has to wonder. Maybe it was his wife?
  • 1. Daniel Craig
    2. Sean Connery
    3. Roger Moore
    4. Timothy Dalton
    5. Pierce Brosnan
    6. George Lazenby
  • I always find it unfair to put Lazenby in last place, as he was in fact a very good James Bond, and On Her Majestys Secret Service is a very good James Bond release, but as George only did the one film, there wasn't an awful lot to evaluate. Say if Lazenby had done another two or three releases, all of the same caliber of OHMSS, I would place him in at least fourth place, maybe deserving of higher. Brosnan was a poorer Bond than George I sometimes find, but as Pierce did four releases, there is so much more work to search through, and every now and again, he did in fact (Brosnan) do a very good job of portraying the iconic character. So even though Lazenby often finds himself in last place, it's never an indication that he was a poor Bond. Just didn't have an opportunity to present himself in the role in a wider enough capacity so there isn't always much to comment on..
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    The harsh truth though is that Lazenby had zero acting experience and it shows painfully at times in OHMSS, although ironically he is very good in the two biggest scenes in the film - his proposal to Tracy and her subsequent murder, but for the most part his acting is at best described as wooden and at worst bloody awful. That's why most, quite rightly, have him in either last or penultimate place on their lists.
  • Lazenby was the best pugilist of all the James Bond actors that tried their part in the role. Sure George may not have been the best overall actor in the part of 007 and it's sometimes easy to see why the man gets ridiculed for his one and only appearance, but he had those certain qualities that weren't always evident in the other five actors who played their part. Single or minor qualities - but significant nonetheless
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    It's a very fine list to appear at the bottom of IMO. It still means 'awesome'.
  • Good enough. There has never been a 'bad' James Bond, as in poor. They all at one time or another gave us at least one outstanding adventure or presented a performance that Fleming would of been proud of
  • I love them all, but I have to, here's my ranking.

    1. Moore
    2. Connery
    3. Brosnan
    4. Craig
    5. Lazenby
    6. Dalton
  • edited January 2014 Posts: 5
    We tend to elevate or bury actors over any other person in the production of the movie, as if they are the most important part, when in reality there are many other factors that make for a bad film, or even a bad acting performance. Actors are just cogs, subject to the direction they are given. I would think directors, editors, cinematographers, etc. have more control over whether a movie is good, more control over the overall presentation. Here's a paragraph from a nice little write-up about OHMSS by Steven Soderbergh:

    So what’s wrong with it? George Lazenby, but not for the reasons you might think. I actually like him—a lot—and think he could have made a terrific Bond had he continued (allegedly he decided before the shoot was over he would only play the part once). What seems obvious to me, though, is no one was helping him during the shoot or the edit (they won’t even let him finish a fucking sentence onscreen). It feels like everyone was so focused on what he wasn’t (Sean Connery) that they didn’t take the time to figure out what he was (a cool-looking dude with genuine presence and great physicality). For instance, they should have known that a lot of the one-liners that would have worked with Connery don’t work with Lazenby. This isn’t because he’s bad, it’s because his entire affect is different, less glib. This, to me, is a lack of sensitivity and understanding on the part of the filmmakers and not a shortcoming of the lead actor, because Lazenby has one thing you can’t fake, which is a certain kind of gravitas. Despite this, there is no attempt to bring it out or amplify it, which is a huge missed opportunity. Also, Lazenby has a vulnerability that Connery never had—there are scenes in which he looks legitimately terrified and others in which he convinces us that he is in love with Tracy (particularly in the final scene), which brings us to another reason OHMSS is so distinctive—it’s the only Bond film with a female character that isn’t a cartoon, and the only film in which Bond is so completely frustrated with his bosses he wants and tries to quit. In fact, everything about the film suggests a reboot before the idea of rebooting was even in the air, much less fashionable (especially the ending, which you could never get away with today).
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
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    I actually made a Petrarchan sonnet on who the best James Bond is.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I actually made a Petrarchan sonnet on who the best James Bond is.

    So are you Italian? Go ahead and post it. Not off topic here.
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    #001. Daniel Craig
    Barely edging out the original for me is the current Bond - Mr. Craig. Fans were initially outraged to hear Craig was cast, mostly because of the way he looks (ex: blonde hair); Craig silenced most of his critics, delivering a spectacular performance as 007 in 2006's Casino Royale. So far he's also done Quantum of Solace and Skyfall, and was terrific in both. The most hard-edged and serious, if I ever imagined the most realistic Bond, it would be Craig's. In my opinion, actually, CR was his best performance, followed swiftly by SF and finally QoS (still the best part of all 3 films). Craig is perfect as the modern Bond, and I expect more great things from him in Bond 24 and 25.
    #002. Sean Connery
    If I could cheat, I'd say #1 and #2 are tied; Craig may overall be my favorite, but Connery is the most well-rounded Bond; he's good-looking, suave, lethal, charming, cunning, and smart all in one package. Though he didn't seem as excited to play Bond in YOLT and DAF, you couldn't ask for better in his first four films. Connery is legendary as the first man to play 007, and has rightfully been picked as the favorite/best Bond among many fans.
    #003. George Lazenby
    My most controversial placing pins the one-hit-wonder George Lazenby high at #3. Why? Well, first of all, he handled action sequences exceptionally well. He was certainly handsome enough for the role. He had the awesome, funny quips and charm. But most importantly, he innovated in the sense that he was the most human and compassionate Bond; examples include when he's worn and scared at the village, his marriage proposal to Tracy, and the heartbreaking final scene with his wife's death. I'm not sure any other Bond actor could have pulled off those scenes as well as the under-appreciated Lazenby.
    #004. Pierce Brosnan
    It was hard to pick between 4 and 5; again, if I could have a tie, these two places would be. I give the advantage to the sometimes underrated Pierce Brosnan, who played Bond for four films. The issue is that 3 of his 4 films are generally regarded as some of the series' weakest films; though it may be true, it has nothing to do with Brosnan. GoldenEye, his debut Bond picture, is widely regarded as a series' classic, and he's one of the movie's biggest merits. It's just so easy to accept him as Bond, from his good work in action sequences to his funny and memorable lines. My biggest issue with Brosnan is that I felt like he didn't innovate in the role as Bond as much as he could have, likely the least different of all the actors. Overall he was a very solid Bond though.
    #005. Roger Moore
    I'm definitely not a Roger Moore hater, but it's no secret the Roger Moore era was not the best time of the Bond series. Actually, LALD/TMWTGG/TSWLM are my favorite films of his tenure, with the last four being some of the series' weakest in my opinion. The problem is simply that he was too silly a lot of the time, and also too old in his last couple films. He's still charming and mostly believable as Bond, just not the character Ian Fleming created.
    #006. Timothy Dalton
    Don't get me wrong, I also don't hate Timothy Dalton; I enjoy all the Bond actors to some extent; it's simply that I prefer the other 5. Timothy Dalton is even closer to Fleming's Bond than Moore and Brosnan, but I just feel like he came up flat a lot of the time. Also, it could just be me, but I didn't think he was that good/Bond-looking. The action scenes he did were good, but I thought he was the most wooden and dull of all 6 (don't jump on me Lazenby haters). He's still not that bad though, but always the most forgettable and dull of all 6 to me. Still a decent Bond.
  • edited January 2014 Posts: 107
    Brosnan had zero swagger.
  • I've already posted on this thread, but looking over it I decided to justify my choices, because in the end, without justification, it's just a list of names. I've also decided to sort them into 4 tiers where I think individual ranking is difficult for me.

    Tier 1
    Timothy Dalton
    Dalton is Bond. As well as being a fantastic actor, who portrays the dark violent side of the character just as well as the light-hearted side (people who say he has no humour clearly haven't watched his films, or at least are judging him solely on LTK). He also looks great in the action scenes. He is what every Bond should be, and I don't think anyone will ever top him as Bond.

    Tier 2
    Daniel Craig and Sean Connery
    These two switch places depending on which I have seen more recently. They are good for completely different reasons, but they are fantastic. Sean Connery is the actor who defined the role, and no-one can beat his portrayal of the smooth womanizing agent, whereas Craig takes his role as a blunt instrument perfectly. I can't differentiate between these two, but at the moment, Craig edges it slightly into the No. 2 spot.

    Tier 3
    George Lazenby and Pierce Brosnan
    Brosnan is definitely a better actor, but Lazenby just about does it better for me as he feels less like a cardboard cutout of a secret agent and much more human. Also it does help Lazenby that he was in one fantastic film, whereas Brosnan was in one very good, one okay, one not great and one downright awful film. All in all, Lazenby manages to take No.4 for me at the moment, but as I am due to rewatch the Brosnan films soon, that could change.

    Tier 4
    Roger Moore
    Oh dear. What happened here. If they were trying to go for humour, I never found Moore funny. If they were trying to go for attractive/womanizing, I never found him convincing (I mean, which woman in their right mind would want to have sex with a 50+ year old Roger Moore?). He's also very wooden, although in his defence he did have some very poor material to work with. The endless quips just got boring after about five minutes, and you can pretty much play 'Spot the Stunt Double' from his third film onwards. And this is of course ignoring the most important thing - he got way, way too old. If you see what he was like in The Saint, he should have been the perfect Bond. Unfortunately, it was the exact opposite.
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    1.CRAIG
    2.MOORE
    3.CONNERY
    4.BROSNAN
    5.DALTON
    6.LAZENBY
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Funny that Lazenby is seen as the worst Bond by most, whereas his one film is competing with FRWL as the best Bond film of all time around here.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Uniqueness implies value for me, and Lazenby and OHMSS are both definitely unique in the series. Give him two or three more films(not scripted by Mankiewics, but as true to Fleming as Majesty) and I am pretty confident he would be seen as a great Bond by many more, so agree with what you said,@Birdleson.
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    Yeah thinking about it now, my list is Craig > Connery > Lazenby > Moore = Brosnan > Dalton. And again, I liked them all.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    1. Connery
    2. Craig
    3. Dalton
    4. Moore
    5. Brosnan
    6. Lazenby

    Give us another CR or SF performance, and Danny moves into the top spot.
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