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I find the PTS fight with Mitchell rather too much reliant on CGI to be honest. It could give the dire DAD a run for its money in that regard!
Yes, the CGI used in QoS was shockingly bad and on a par with the worst of DAD. I thought that the Bond producers would have learned their lesson from DAD but obviously not! Still, despite all of that, QoS is in my Top 5 Bond films of all time.
I agree that there is way too much CGI in QoS, but on a technical level I don't think it's as bad as the kite surfing in DAD. That said, any CGI is really too much CGI in my view.
Someone was telling me the other day that the cranes chase in CR is mainly shot for real with wires etc. It does look quite CGI to me, but apparently not.
To me it looks like stuntwork with close-ups as it used to be in the old days and to be fair,apart from the odd CGI moments,the Craig Bond films are at least using proper stuntwork again,which is promising.
Whenever we see anything now,we are dubious that its not CGI !!
I always hated the tank chase - daft and not tthe kind of thing I expect Bond to do - i.e. go round destroying one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Leave that kind of thing to Team America.
Any way, what freefall scene are you talking about in GE? The bungee? Pretty sure that is done for real.
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I thought the tank chase was entertaining. Its well directed and doesn't outstay its welcome unlike the cheesy action in the other Brosnan films.
I remember watching the Russia chase in Die Hard 5 thinking: "this was done far better in GE".
I was talking about the silly cliff dive rather than the bungee jump.
The tank chase is fine from a technical perspective. I just think it's naff and not what I expect Bond to do. It's the point where Bond just becomes another cheesy action franchise. Bond is not supposed to be a philistine. I just disliked what that scene implies about his values and attitude. What if he'd driven a tank around the streets of London or Paris smashing up historic buildings - would that have been cool as well?
The fact that he spends half the film blazing away on machine guns added to my feeling that this was no longer what I regard as a Bond movie.
And before you say anything, Roger never did stuff like this.
I agree on the tank chase. And I never thought about the destruction of that beautiful city too - that's a very good point!
No the bit when he dives after the plane at the end of the PTS.
Well Bond has been causing destruction of sorts in Paris before...in AVTAK. A rather poor tired action scene in comparison.
As for London, maybe not in a tank but a car or even a chase in a bendy bus would be good.
What I'm saying is if a Bond movie had Bond driving a tank through (as in through the structure) of Admiralty Arch or historic Paris, would that be cool?
Hmm...probably not ;) Nonetheless if Connery or Moore did I suspect you wouldn't be nearly as harsh on them :p
Even so. Love the tank chase for its spectacle.
Now you see how deep my frustration with the Brosnan era goes! For me, they totally forgot who and what Bond is about.
Thinking about it.. The tank chase is really the first clear example of the new producers and new age Bond 'switching things up' in the franchise. It does seem as though it should be Ouromov driving the tank chasing Bond, but then they thought 'No, let's switch it up and have Bond do it.' It worked out far better with making Craig the sex symbol in CR than it did here though.
For me I'd take that chase hands down over some of the lesser chases in the later Roger Moore films (Bond driving round San Francisco in a fire engine for example). I do understand what you're saying but I think they get away with it to an extent in GE. I find the chase enjoyable despite its ridiculousness.
If you were talking about the bike chase in TND I'd agree with you. Regardless of the vehicle being more plausible I don't find that chase scene half as entertaining. It goes on too long and most of it is just explosions.
Since when did the premise move to GE?
Its QoS we're talking about now. And as for the TOSCA scene?
Magnificent
That said this particular scene is easily the best the movie has to offer, before and after the movie is a shambles. And then to my great surprise nothing these scene delivered like all the faces of Quantum operatives gets ever mentioned in the movie. Kinda odd considering the important person from the Uk being involved.
For me, loudness in action scenes are not necessary at all, in fact it can actually work against the scene. The producers should always look for imaginative and substancial ways of building suspence, not only go for the easy solution; loudness and magnitude.