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I worked (but indirectly, long story) a little bit (a very little bit, because the prototype of the tool I worked upon was not satisfying enough) for some guys in the VFX industry, in the previsualisation on set department.
Turn it the other way round : if Craig and Rapace had invested the energy to prepare a 20 second long fight choreography that's quite intense, they would have made it very clear it was them on the screen, and therefore no silhouette :)
This ends with a 20 second long shot with no cut. The Bond/Slate fight in QoS or the stairway fight in CR ? Well, it's 1 or 2 seconds long at best when it's Craig on screen I think. Not because he can't handle more, but because you won't risk so huge budgets on a stuntman hitting him in the face and so on.
And it would be even more risky to have non-professional stuntman Ola Rapace "hitting" Craig. Here they had a professional stuntman "hitting" Rapace, Rapace could use all his energy to reply :)
In this scene, you have also obviously CG when Patrice falls (and I still wonder why they didn't use the images from the trailer instead, frankly), and before that Bond under the lift during the vertical shot was IMO 100% CG too (I think the avatar looks a bit too shiny). But Bond running and jumping on the lift at the beginning is 100% the real Craig - although I'm sure there are also CG to remove matresses and wires, and that he didn't put his right feet on something as narrow as what we see on screen.
You are too cautious be a tabloid journalist or a webzine author : the line about the skidoos chase could be turned into a scoop :) Never mind it's a beispiel from the author !
@parachute: Overall the logic is right, but you can see clearly its DC much more then a few seconds in the stairwell fight and there ARE a lot of cuts and bruises due to risky fight scenes, even on the main stars.
Yes, but I was talking about the length of each shot : only 1 or 2 seconds. They can stop the shooting between each shot (that's why it's so boring on set). If they had wanted to do a 20 second shot of 50 years old non-professional stuntman at all Isaac de Bankole trying to "hit" Craig with a machete... hm... was it worth it ? They have to choregraph everything, they're not just thinking only about not really hitting the other guy.
For instance, when Craig is really thrown on the wall near the end of this stair scene, you can see it's not Isaac de Bankole who's throwing him like a rugby player, but a professional stuntman who knows what he's doing. They can give Craig some protection on his back only for this 2 seconds shot, etc.
Also, when Craig really jumps under the lift in SF, there's room for bruises and aches if he misses his jump, even with matresses and safety wires.. The same obviously for the train scenes in the PTS. But a bad punch on the face by a fellow actor is another matter for the close-up scenes in the next days ! :)
Great find @Germanlady. Three days are enough for a few close up shots for a bigger scene or for a small scene. We'll see.
http://screencrush.com/pierce-brosnan-jimmy-fallon/?trackback=tsmclip
Thanks for bringing that second vid to our attention and yes, it's a very poignant tidbit in relation to the topic if discussion.
The article @Germanlady found also says that filming is planned of a chase on skidoos and that a mountain village will be built above the village of Obertilliach.
About skidoos and mountain village, the first is an example from the author of the column from what I understand, the second looks like a more reliable piece of information, but finally, like in Roma, they hope Bond will come here that's why they want to stay quiet about it.. Well, in Roma, the guy bragged a lot Bond would come to Italy thanks to him :)
A UK production blog that loans out vehicles and equipment to film people has updated when Bond 24 will start filming.
Is this a reliable source?
www.theknowledgeonline.com/
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I'm sure the first day of filming will be posted elsewhere online soon.
Bond on skis ... I hope DC is a quick learner. And I personally don't need constant cutting to close ups to make the scene exciting. Just saying ...
And I know it is not confirmed yet. But looking more likely.
As for when filming begins, my guess is Monday 1st December.
Hope it's a well written scene and not a complete homage to OHMSS or TSWLM.
I want it to have its own character, something memorable (whether dramatic, or chase, or romantic, or whatever).
And for the OHMSS theme during the ski chase, I personally really do not want that. I don't; it would take me out of the scene too much - I do not need a musical cue homage during some scene.
http://www.theknowledgeonline.com/the-knowledge-bulletin/post/2014/08/19/Bond-24-start-date-confirmed
What if Kate Upton really ends up being the Bond girl? :) Something else: JamesPage, what do you make of David Arnold's tweet about him not composing the score of Bond 24?
If they want to top Majesty's ski sequence, they're only going to do it by having Blofeld chase Bond down the alps again, but bigger and better. And I don't think that's happening here. It's going to be snowmobiles after Bond. I don't doubt it should be great.. but I'm hesitant to say we'll ever top Majesty's sequence.
And they are to build an entire convincing mountain village in Austria by a shoot date in January? It is 5 months away, but for us to only have 1 report of it is interesting. That's going to take a lot of work.
Also, for those who think it may be just a minor scene, Craig was only on the Skyfall lodge set for less than a week if I remember correctly. They just need him for some running shots, slow skiing shots, closeups, etc. Hopefully we get a great stunt team, which I have yet to be disappointed with the team thus far.
Earlier this week I reported that I was more excited for MI:5. The promise of a ski chase in the Austrian Alps and the possibility of a car chase through Rome may have swayed me, finally, back to being excited for this production. I just can't have too much faith in Mendes.
Well @JWESTBROOK, you can also top the Majesty's ski chase by doing what I have mentioned in my own topic, right here :-): http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/5596/bringing-skiing-to-new-levels-in-bond-24-bring-in-julian-carr-halvor-angvik#latest
This is just nitpicking really. Today's CGI has improved so much.......that I don't give a shit. We don't live in the "Die Another Day"-era anymore. So criticism about CGI should still be there, but it's way less relevant than 12 years ago.
Also, when DID we actually start criticising that tiny bit of CGI in "Skyfall"? Yes, exactly, once entire articles appeared about the subject of CGI in "SK". We, simple humble posters on this forum, didn't see those CGI-elements ourselves.