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  • jobojobo
    edited October 2015 Posts: 7,507
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I find it inconceivable (and on the strength of one film at this point!) that Mendes is beating Lewis and Hamilton. Let's see Mendes do three or four and we'll count the classics v dodgy ones. I will take GF, LALD and TSWLM all over SF (which is still a Top Ten Bond film). And YOLT is pretty high up there.


    The quanity argument does not hold up. Remember we are judging raw directing ability just as much as the sum of each film put together. It is my opinion that Mendes made much more out of the material he had to work with than the other two. And honestly, some subjective opinions has to be allowed in a game like this! If not here, where else?
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
    edited October 2015 Posts: 805
    I can't fathom how Lewis Gilbert has gone already. Whatever you think of YOLT, TSWLM and MR script/story-wise, they're undeniably well directed movies with many iconic scenes.

    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 4
    04. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27 (+1)
    05. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 23 (-2)
    06. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 54
    07. Sam Mendes SF - 9

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD

  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    Posts: 3,336

    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 4
    04. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27 (+1)
    05. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 23
    06. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55 +1
    07. Sam Mendes SF - 7 -2

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Let's be honest, the Craig era will almost always be over proportionally favoured in such games, this is not about objectivity but subjectivity. It works the other way around too with the Brosnan era who is hated on here.

    I'm surprised QOS didn't rank higher, but then even the most avid Craig fans can't deny that this movie is a clunker direction wise I guess.

    I have made my peace with it and enjoy these games. It's a bit like democracy. You might not agree with the party that wins the election but if you don't vote at all you can't complain.

    It would be nice if more than the usual suspects would participate in those elimination games, especially those who see certain eras with a bit more objectivity, sadly a lot of those members don't seem to play the elimination games.

    That's why the outcome can always be pretty much predicted.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 5 (+1)
    04. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    05. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 23
    06. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55 +1
    07. Sam Mendes SF - 5 (-2)

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 3 (-2)
    04. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    05. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 23
    06. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55 +1
    07. Sam Mendes SF - 6 (+1)

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD[/quote]

    By the way, wouldn't it be more fair to judge every direction for one particular film? I mean, it's a bit unfair to compare John Glen's 5 films, with so far only 1 film for Peter Hunt. There's not more material to really judge how good a director Peter Hunt was.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    And @GG wasn't OHMSS Hunt's first film ever as director? I know FYEO was Glen's first.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited October 2015 Posts: 4,585
    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 3
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 21 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 7 (+1)

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    @BondJasonBond006

    This honestly just reads like blind criticism. I and several Craig fans gave Marc Forster -2 right out of the gate. His directorship was a bit of a mess.

    If you really think about it, this is the perfect game to fault the directors, save one, for the Brosnan era. Aside from half of Roger Spottiswoode's film, Brosnan wasn't given many situations to win people over critically.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Mansfield wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006

    This honestly just reads like blind criticism. I and several Craig fans gave Marc Forster -2 right out of the gate. His directorship was a bit of a mess.

    If you really think about it, this is the perfect game to fault the directors, save one, for the Brosnan era. Aside from half of Roger Spottiswoode's film, Brosnan wasn't given many situations to win people over critically.

    Let's be honest, if Campbell had only directed GE he'd be gone as fast as Spottiswoode.

    It's not blind criticism but an observation I've made over all the games held since June when I first started to read through this forum.

    People "fight" to keep Mendes above Gilbert and Hamilton which is ridiculous.

    Well, I've made my point, I certainly don't expect people to agree and maybe I'm wrong or too touchy but I'm not the only one that has complained in the past.

    Maybe there's a reason why these games have less and less participants. I for one, will skip the next games, and shut up about it in the future.

    PS: I'm not referring especially to this game, I too would rank Tamahori and Apted at the bottom. Spottiswoode should maybe have been over Forster, maybe not. So it's not that I don't agree in this game with it.
  • dragonskydragonsky
    Posts: 2,491
    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 58 (-1)
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 3
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 28 (+1)
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 21
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6 (-1)

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • ChirazChiraz
    Posts: 1,066
    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 58
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 3
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 28
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 19 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 56 (+1)
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    By the way, wouldn't it be more fair to judge every direction for one particular film?
    Probably. Some of the directors were inconsistent and it hasn't been easy to judge their work as a whole. However, if we ranked them individually then there wouldn't be much difference from the Bond Film Elimination Game. I'm okay with doing it this way.


    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    Let's be honest, if Campbell had only directed GE he'd be gone as fast as Spottiswoode.
    You don't speak for everyone. I happen to think he did a great job on GE and would definitely rank him over Spottiswoode.



    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 58
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 3
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 28
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 17 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 57 (+1)
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited October 2015 Posts: 4,116
    pachazo wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    By the way, wouldn't it be more fair to judge every direction for one particular film?
    Probably. Some of the directors were inconsistent and it hasn't been easy to judge their work as a whole. However, if we ranked them individually then there wouldn't be much difference from the Bond Film Elimination Game. I'm okay with doing it this way.


    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    Let's be honest, if Campbell had only directed GE he'd be gone as fast as Spottiswoode.
    You don't speak for everyone. I happen to think he did a great job on GE and would definitely rank him over Spottiswoode.



    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 58
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 3
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 28
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 17 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 57 (+1)
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD

    Me too. Campbell understands you have to be a leader and convey your story to your team.

    Although not all Spottiswoode's fault TND's production was notoriously turbulent.

  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    edited October 2015 Posts: 3,236
    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59 +1
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 3
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 28
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 15 -2
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 57
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    W

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 1 (-2)
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 29 +1
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 15
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 57
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • CowleyCowley
    Posts: 486
    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 59
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 1
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 29
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 16 (+1)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55 (-2)
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
    edited October 2015 Posts: 538
    Wednesday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60 (+1)
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 1
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27 (-2)
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 16
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 6

    Eliminated:
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD

    To the point that @Birdelson made, don't like that Gilbert and Hamilton are going under before the the one-time directors. TSWLM and GF are up there with SF and OHMSS, in my opinion. Do the remaining films bring down Hamilton and Gilbert? No boost at at all? In a head-to-head vote, I like Mendes' work with SF more than Hunt's with OHMSS. But other people think differently. And that's cool. No tears. Vote on.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    02. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG - 0 (-1) Eliminated
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 15 (-1)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 55
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 7 (+1)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,474
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 13 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 56 (+1)
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 7

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 14 (+1)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 56
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 5 (-2)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 15 (+1)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 56
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 3 (-2)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited October 2015 Posts: 45,489
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 13 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 56
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 4 (+1)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    Posts: 3,336
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 13
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 57 +1
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 2 -2

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 11 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 58 (+1)
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 2

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • ChirazChiraz
    Posts: 1,066
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 27
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 9 (-2)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 58
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 3 (+1)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • daltondalton
    Posts: 1,631
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 26 (-1)
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 10 (+1)
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 58
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 2 (-1)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD


  • JBDHJBDH
    Posts: 16
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 60
    03. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 24 (-2)
    04. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 10
    05. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 58
    06. Sam Mendes SF - 3 (+1)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
    Posts: 538
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 61 (+1)
    02. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 22 (-2)
    03. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 10
    04. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 58
    05. Sam Mendes SF - 3

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
  • jobojobo
    edited October 2015 Posts: 7,507
    Thursday

    01. Terence Young - DN / FRWL / TB - 62 (+1)
    02. Peter Hunt - OHMSS - 22
    03. John Glen - FYEO / OP / AVTAK / TLD / LTK - 10
    04. Martin Campbell - GE / CR - 58
    05. Sam Mendes SF - 1 (-2)

    Eliminated:
    06. Guy Hamilton - GF / DAF / LALD / TMWTGG
    07. Lewis Gilbert - YOLT / TSWLM / MR
    08. Marc Forster - QOS
    09. Roger Spottiswoode - TND
    10. Michael Apted - TWINE
    11. Lee Tamahori - DAD
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