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fff-ing tremendous :-P?
SPECTRE has a great first hour, reminds me of the start of Thunderball with Bond off solo in a fast pace hunt. The second half of the movie is not as strong, it felt like it lost its way. Because of that it does not sit well with Dan's prior films it's a bit too Holywood, there is a real lack of dialog. Score as people have already said lazy copy and paste effort from Skyfall, more Fleming is definitely required.
The film is no CR but it's not awful I just felt it rushed, and considering it's 2hr 20 mins long you wonder why that is.
Highlight: Ben Wishaw 's Q is fantastic
Downer: Harris is just not right for MP
5/10 same score I would give to TND.
Yes I though the linger running time meant more characterisation. But it doesn't....it just means more globe trotting and sequences. The pre title sequence is good mind.
Craig's Bond is closer to Fleming than any other I think, although the pacing and the plotting of the film has definitely evolved along different lines. The first half deliberately unfolds slowly - not all wall-to-wall action - although that allows some of the most beautiful cinematography ever seen in a Bond film to develop - as well as some gorgeous cues in the score. Felt a bit more like Lawrence of Arabia in that respect - old fashioned film-making... and in that it sits very highly in the Bond series (up there with OHMSS). Although the Action sequences are all a bit ubiquitous these days - particularly with the pounding drums that has to accompany them. I don't blame Thomas Newman for that, but if you look at the fight scenes in FRWL, for example, they are often scoreless with occasional stabs. The way they are cut now that wouldn't really work and it seems that Hollywood expects to hear pounding drums beating the whole way through.
A lot to like and a lot to admire... although I'd still love him to "get a mission" and go on it, rather than every plot contriving around vendetta, personal circumstances, rescuing M etc...
I need to sit with it for a bit and then go again to be able to see it in the context of the series, but I think you're all going to like it.
Because that is one of his trademarks as a writer: dialogues and characters are stronger than the plot. Sometimes he glosses over things.
I have habitually seen every Bond film (commencing with Dr No) six times upon its release. I shall not be watching SPECTRE a second time.
But point taken!
Although not intended to sound positive, I think this is actually what most people wanted - a good old fashioned 'set-up' opening hour (à la TB, TSWLM) followed by an action packed second half with less emphasis on character (less than SF in any case).
To be honest, I'm not looking to be wowed by incredibly deep, thought provoking cinema - this isn't a proposition by Wittgenstein, it's a James Bond movie.
There was never going to be a win-win situation for the new movie on this forum – either SP was going to have too much angst & introspection (thus displeasing the ‘get back to basics & spectacle’ crowd) or it was going to be lighter on the dialog & subtlety and more spectacular - thus being dismissed as too 'flash-bang' or not deep enough…
Dialog has never been 007's strong suit anyway… not since the glory days of early Connery at least, and CR was the only film since OHMSS that had a decent script.
" This organisation does not tolerate failure ! " :D
Welcome to MI6, by the way. :)
Now this I'm pleased to hear. Always like a bit of an edge to Bond, LTK style... :>
This makes me optimistic. I'll be seeing it on the 7th. But another train sequence..? Did we really need another train. Ugh.
I always like train sequences in a Bond film. And considering how long it's been since Bond went mano a mano with a henchman, it's well worth the wait.
Oh alright then, I'll reserve judgement.
I just find trains so... 'un-sexy'. Probably due to having used them to commute to work far too often in the past (:|
Being across the Atlantic, I won't be able to see SP until Nov 6th, sadly. It's been years since I've watched a Bond film at Odeon Leicester Sq in London, and it's one of my biggest regrets with moving to the other side of the pond. Having said that, there are compensatory benefits in the form of lower taxes, higher net incomes, bigger roads, cheaper cars and all that jazz etc. etc. (I'm trying to rationalize it obviously.......unsuccessfully).
It looks like the totality of reviews coming in from MI6 fans is not dissimilar to the critics.....most like it very much and some aren't all that happy. Some elements work and others seem a little contrived. Oberhauser seems forgettable (which is interesting given most reviews have not focused on him and he's played by Waltz of all people). Many have said that the pretitles and train fight are the best thing about this film, which is curious.
On the 6th, I guarantee you that I will cover my ears during Smith's song (no matter what anyone says here), and after that ordeal is over, I look forward to having a blast!
Yes, it's impossible to please all Bond fans. If you want gritty and semi-realism and you don't get it - you're going to be a bit unhappy,
and if you want a lighter more over-the-top fantasy Bond film and you don't get it - you're going to be a bit unhappy.
The producers/writers have to go with their gut instinct and make the film they want to make, and hopefully, this will please the majority of fans. :) You can't please everyone.
I haven't seen it, so I don't know, but based on the reviews of others, it looks like they tried to do both with SPECTRE. That is my main concern, they tried to have their cake and eat it. Again, maybe that's not the case, but it would certainly be disappointing if it was. I myself have been eagerly awaiting a return of the larger than life, classic elements of Bond and if the film ends up being another personnal mission that attempts bind the Craig era into a neat package, as apposed to simply telling its own story, I would be devastated. :(
If anyone could put my fears to rest without spoiling anything, It would be deeply appreciated.
I'm not sure if that's an insult or a compliment to Sam Smith.
Apart from the technically excellent opening tracking shot this so called best ever opening title sequence was dull.
Thomas Newman's score is not a score. It's like an arrangement of unused cues from Skyfall. There is a constant drone of orchestral bars that just hang about all movie.
Craig is excellent as always and maybe he has one more movie in him but then that would be the right time to hand over the reigns.