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I think it's regarded as a classic usually because of its commercial success and how it brought Bond worldwide (not saying the franchise wasn't a global phenomenon before Thunderball, but it definitely helped the franchise's globalization immensely).
You're missing Dr No :) @WaltherPPK
We almost got a streak of 24th for DAD until 4 members placed it higher. It's highest is now 22nd for now :P
The median ranks are actually not that different from the 2012-2015 ranking list, mostly only 1-2 places off, so this will be a good preliminary idea of where Spectre will fit it.
Highest 2 / 24
Lowest 22
Median 7
Mode 7
Average 10
I haven't read any reviews in depth (ie no spoilers), only the general gist of things, but I get the impression that anyone going in with the expectation of a deep emotional story will be very disappointed, and that SP is a back to the formula affair.
Not long now until I find out for myself.
Edit: Ooops, yes I may have included that WhatCulture list, didn t see it was an external one, too engrossed in the work. Thanks, hopefully you will fix it.
1. THUNDERBALL
2. GOLDFINGER
3. DR. NO
4. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
5. GOLDENEYE
6. CASINO ROYALE
7. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
8. OCTOPUSSY
9. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
10. MOONRAKER
11. LIVE AND LET DIE
12. SKYFALL
13. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
14. A VIEW TO A KILL
15. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
16. SPECTRE
17. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
18. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
19. LICENCE TO KILL
20. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
21. DIE ANOTHER DAY
22. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
23. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
24. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
25. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
Category I. Excellent
1. TB
2. SF
3. CR
4. GF
II. Very Good
5. FRWL
6. DAF
7. QoS
8. LTK (#6-8 are guilty pleasures)
9. YOLT
10. LALD
11. TSWLM
12. OHMSS
13. SP
14. TMWTGG
(#5-14 are virtually tied for fifth place)
III. Good (will not turn the channel if I find it on TV)
15. DN
16. AVTAK
17. OP
18. GE
19. TLD
20. TND
IV. Bellow Average
21. TWINE
22. FYEO
23. DAD
24. MR
But I meant "classic" as in quality, which I think it lacks, and thus don't equate quality with commercial success. I don't think there is anything nearly as classic in Thunderball as its predecessors.
From Russia with Love (1963)
Dr. No (1962)
Casino Royale (2006)
The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
Goldfinger (1964)
License to Kill (1989)
GoldenEye (1995)
Thunderball (1965)
The World Is Not Enough (1999)
Skyfall (2012)
For Your Eyes Only (1981)
Live and Let Die (1973)
The Living Daylights (1987)
You Only Live Twice (1967)
Octopussy (1983)
Moonraker (1979)
Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
The Man with the Golden Gun (1974)
Quantum of Solace (2008)
Die Another Day (2002)
Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
A View to a Kill (1985)
Haven't seen Spectre yet.
Woah, harsh. But I respect your opinion nonetheless.
Respect your list but I loved SP for the same reasons I loved TSWLM.
1. Skyfall
2. GoldenEye
3. Goldfinger
4. Live and Let Die
5. Spectre
6. Tomorrow Never Dies
7. Casino Royale
8. The Man with the Golden Gun
9. The World Is Not Enough
10. A View to a Kill
11. The Spy Who Loved Me
12. Die Another Day
13. Octopussy
14. From Russia with Love
15. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
16. You Only Live Twice
17. License To Kill
18. Never Say Never Again
19. Dr. No
20. Moonraker
21. The Living Daylights
22. Quantum of Solace
23. For Your Eyes Only
24. Thunderball
25. Diamonds Are Forever
1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. Casino Royale
4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
5. GoldenEye
6. Skyfall
7. The Spy Who Loved Me
8. Dr. No
9. Licence to Kill
10. For Your Eyes Only
11. The Living Daylights
12. You Only Live Twice
13. Tomorrow Never Dies
14. Thunderball
15. Quantum of Solace
16. Spectre
17. Octopussy
18. The World is not Enough
19. Live and Let Die
20. Diamonds are Forever
21. A View to a Kill
22. Die Another Day
23. The Man with the Golden Gun
24. Moonraker
The mediocrity's finest accomplishment was to make me consider dropping Skyfall a place in retrospect.
A full review will be up in the morning.
There were some things I liked in it! That's why I put it on the tier with TB and QoS. Interesting, great at times, but horribly flawed.
@FoxRox, I feel bad too, and really have no answers. I'll peruse our review thread in the morning to get a feel for the more positive takes among the community.
It hurt in my case. Maybe it will do the opposite for you.
Hopefully, SP doesn't become DAD overnight. In all fairness, there's room for error. I had the thing at #2 after first seeing it. Not going to bother ranking again until I own it and watch all the others as well.
It's hard to really bury Spectre in the rankings in my opinion. It has enough good things going for it to spare it from bottom dweller status.
Thanks, Jake.
1. Casino Royale
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
3. The Spy who loved me
4. For your eyes only
5. Licence to Kill
6. Goldfinger
7. Skyfall
8. You only live twice
9. The Man with the golden gun
10. The Living Daylights
11. Moonraker
12. Diamonds are forever
13. Die Another Day
14. Octopussy
15. Dr. No
16. The World is Not Enough
17. Live and let die
18. A View to a Kill
19. Quantum of Solace
20. Thunderball
21. From Russia with love
22. Tomorrow never dies
23. Goldeneye
I really dig this ranking (apart from FRWL being so low and DAD so high).
01. License to Kill (1)
02. Casino Royale (11)
03. From Russia With Love (1)
04. Thunderball (1)
05. Goldfinger (1)
06. Quantum of Solace (6)
07. Spectre (2)
08. Goldeneye (1)
09. Tomorrow Never Dies (1)
10. Skyfall (5)
11. The Living Daylights (1)
12. Dr No (3)
13. The Man With The Golden Gun (1)
14. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1)
15. Die Another Day (2)
16. You Only Live Twice (1)
17. Diamonds Are Forever (1)
18. Live and Let Die (1)
I haven't seen The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, A View to a Kill and The World Is Not Enough yet. Thinking about it, I might have seen The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker but I simply don't remember.
I have a feeling Spectre will go down on my list. I wasn't as enjoyable the second time around, and I see more of its flaws the more I discuss it. Though, I still enjoyed it.
Fair pint on Domino...not the best performance. Disagree with regards to Largo though...A truly sinister and charismatic villain. I don't see any change in Connery....He seems even more self assured and suave than ever.
PERFECT: 5 stars
1. Thunderball
2. The Living Daylights
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
4. Licence to Kill
5. From Russia with Love
EXCELLENT: 4 stars
6. GoldenEye
7. Goldfinger
8. Casino Royale
9. Spectre
10. Tomorrow Never Dies
GOOD: 3 stars
11. Skyfall
12. The Man with the Golden Gun
13. Dr. No
14. The Spy Who Loved Me
15. For Your Eyes Only
16. Diamonds Are Forever
OK: 2 stars
17. You Only Live Twice
18. Live and Let Die
19. The World Is Not Enough
20. Quantum of Solace
21. A View to a Kill
22. Octopussy
POOR: 1 star
23. Moonraker
24. Die Another Day
JAMES BOND
1. Sean Connery
2. Timothy Dalton
3. George Lazenby
4. Pierce Brosnan
5. Daniel Craig
6. Roger Moore