SPECTRE: It grossed $880 Million Worldwide (..and 2015 was the biggest box office year so far)

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    bondjames wrote: »
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    RE: the MI/Bond comparisons, keep in mind that MI3 came after Cruise's tragic meltdown/couch jumping incident. So that was the beginning of a long fall from the top for him.

    He regained his footing with the exceptional MI-GP, but is still fighting an uphill battle with the press/public due to his religious affiliations.

    If it wasn't for those things, the results could be quite different. He is his biggest enemy, despite all his hard work and efforts. Been at the top or near the top for way too long (since the mid-80's). To be commended.

    True, but I think another factor was that MI2, which though popular at the time, fell out of favor in the intervening years when the OTT/slo-mo John Woo style became old hat.

    MI3 also didn't have that one standout sequence or money shot or Cruise doing something outrageous that all the others had.
    That's true. From my view, MI3 was a bit like SF in the sense that it was more concerned with the personal relationships. It didn't connect so well with the audience unlike SF though.....I always thought that was because of the couch incident (it was around the same time....shortly after) but you could be right.....there was no real standout action sequence.

    It's also true about Woo's film being very dated now.

    The standout sequence that comes to mind from MI3 is the building pendulum swing. I don't know what the trailers focused on showing of the movie way back when, but that was pretty nuts, as was Davian's escape on the bridge.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    RE: the MI/Bond comparisons, keep in mind that MI3 came after Cruise's tragic meltdown/couch jumping incident. So that was the beginning of a long fall from the top for him.

    He regained his footing with the exceptional MI-GP, but is still fighting an uphill battle with the press/public due to his religious affiliations.

    If it wasn't for those things, the results could be quite different. He is his biggest enemy, despite all his hard work and efforts. Been at the top or near the top for way too long (since the mid-80's). To be commended.

    True, but I think another factor was that MI2, which though popular at the time, fell out of favor in the intervening years when the OTT/slo-mo John Woo style became old hat.

    MI3 also didn't have that one standout sequence or money shot or Cruise doing something outrageous that all the others had.
    That's true. From my view, MI3 was a bit like SF in the sense that it was more concerned with the personal relationships. It didn't connect so well with the audience unlike SF though.....I always thought that was because of the couch incident (it was around the same time....shortly after) but you could be right.....there was no real standout action sequence.

    It's also true about Woo's film being very dated now.

    The standout sequence that comes to mind from MI3 is the building pendulum swing. I don't know what the trailers focused on showing of the movie way back when, but that was pretty nuts, as was Davian's escape on the bridge.
    That's true. Particularly the bridge sequence. I remember that now.... Cruise literally being blown against the car. That was pretty intense. There was something at the Vatican too, but it wasn't quite as impressive as the other films.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    RE: the MI/Bond comparisons, keep in mind that MI3 came after Cruise's tragic meltdown/couch jumping incident. So that was the beginning of a long fall from the top for him.

    He regained his footing with the exceptional MI-GP, but is still fighting an uphill battle with the press/public due to his religious affiliations.

    If it wasn't for those things, the results could be quite different. He is his biggest enemy, despite all his hard work and efforts. Been at the top or near the top for way too long (since the mid-80's). To be commended.

    True, but I think another factor was that MI2, which though popular at the time, fell out of favor in the intervening years when the OTT/slo-mo John Woo style became old hat.

    MI3 also didn't have that one standout sequence or money shot or Cruise doing something outrageous that all the others had.
    That's true. From my view, MI3 was a bit like SF in the sense that it was more concerned with the personal relationships. It didn't connect so well with the audience unlike SF though.....I always thought that was because of the couch incident (it was around the same time....shortly after) but you could be right.....there was no real standout action sequence.

    It's also true about Woo's film being very dated now.

    The standout sequence that comes to mind from MI3 is the building pendulum swing. I don't know what the trailers focused on showing of the movie way back when, but that was pretty nuts, as was Davian's escape on the bridge.
    That's true. Particularly the bridge sequence. I remember that now.... Cruise literally being blown against the car. That was pretty intense. There was something at the Vatican too, but it wasn't quite as impressive as the other films.

    Oh, definitely. I'll happily concede that MI3 is the most lacking as far as action goes, likely because it chose to focus on the relationships in Ethan's life, which I actually really love about it. The first film was kind of like that too, more focused on character interaction and tension than blown out action. That film has some small sequences leading up to the big train/helicopter finale, while MI3 is just made up of small sequences that don't lead up to any big climax, but work well as a whole in the end. Obviously #2 is just wall to wall action from start to finish, and GP did a great job of having lots of big set pieces throughout leading to the amazing car park sequence that make it such an amazing thrill ride; the action and suspense just never stops. As for RN, I think it's got a bit of 3 and GP in it. There's a lot of character interaction but also some good set pieces that balance it out. One thing I love about this series is how each film tackles the formula differently. And as @Creasy47 has pointed out, Tom's hair fluctuates between short and long every other film. I wonder if that's purposeful or just coincidence?
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    Abrams and his shaky cam don't do well. I loved rogue nation. The third and first ones are my least favorites of the series
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I'm sorry @GG but I don't think the general audience remember the leaks. I think more critics overly dooming and the quality of the film. UK critics more forgiving of the same faults.

    The general public don't give a shit or even remember the leaks. The budget was obviously too high and unfortunately you can't tell as it doesn't 'look' anymore expensive than say Quantum of Solace 'on acreen'.
  • suavejmf wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I'm sorry @GG but I don't think the general audience remember the leaks. I think more critics overly dooming and the quality of the film. UK critics more forgiving of the same faults.

    The general public don't give a shit or even remember the leaks. The budget was obviously too high and unfortunately you can't tell as it doesn't 'look' anymore expensive than say Quantum of Solace 'on acreen'.

    Not directly. But indirectly they do get the news that "Daniel Craig is being Bond one last time" or that "Idris Elba has been cast as the next Bond" or that "Also Tom Hardy mentioned as next James Bond" or that "Ewan McGregor likes to be the next Bond" or that "Daniel Craig hates playing James Bond" or that "Looking at the quality of the film the cistly budget was unnecessary".

    If you want it or not, that narrative will be picked up by audiences, consciously or subconsciously.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Several cinemas struggle financially because of Spectre and all those scandals connected with it.

    So many of the audience have asked their money back. Especially those forum members who saw it 20-30 times became a big, sudden economic burden for the theaters.
  • Several cinemas struggle financially because of Spectre and all those scandals connected with it.

    So many of the audience have asked their money back. Especially those forum members who saw it 20-30 times became a big, sudden economic burden for the theaters.

    Sarcasm...though one of the worst types (:|
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 11,119
    So "SPECTRE" has been in cinema's across the globe for 30 DAYS now. Let's make some comparisons between "SKYFALL" and "SPECTRE". I did that by including the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday grosses from China and the USA/Canada (Though the daily grosses for Wednesday haven't been released yet in the USA/Canada, you can slightly estimate how those figures would look like. Tuesday usually sees a slight rise over Monday, and then on Wednesday it slightly sinks a bit towards the Monday figure).

    All other countries across the globe do not release daily estimates. So below figure includes only the estimates from Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday in the USA/Canada and China:



    "SPECTRE":
    --> 26.10.2015, Monday: UK premiere (countrywide)
    --> 06.11.2015, Friday: USA premiere
    --> 25.11.2015, Sunday: 30 days in cinema's across the globe, 19 days in cinema's across the USA/Canada
    http://deadline.com/2015/11/hunger-games-mockingjay-part-2-spectre-international-box-office-results-1201634041/

    Box office results "SPECTRE" on 22.11.2015:
    --> $158.5 Million: Domestic Box Office (USA/Canada)
    --> $530.9 Million: Foreign Box Office
    --> $689.4 Million: Global Box Office (after 30 days in release, 19 days in the USA/Canada....11 days after UK release)



    "SKYFALL":
    --> 26.10.2012, Friday: UK premiere (countrywide)
    --> 09.11.2012, Friday: USA premiere
    --> 25.11.2012, Sunday: 30 days in cinema's across the globe, 16 days in cinema's across the USA/Canada
    http://www.businessinsider.com/skyfall-crosses-200-million-in-the-us-2012-11

    Box office results "SKYFALL" on 25.11.2012:
    --> $214.3 Million: Domestic Box Office (USA/Canada)
    --> $568.4 Million: Foreign Box Office
    --> $782.7 Million: Global Box Office (after 30 days in release, 16 days in the USA/Canada....14 days after UK release)



    So....30 days since the roll-out of "SPECTRE" across the globe have passed. With that timeframe in mind, "SPECTRE" paces only $93.3 Million behind "Skyfall". Battles with "Hunger Games 4" and "The Peanuts" are now behind us. Mind you, next week: Thanksgiving ;-)! And above figures from "SKYFALL" already had the Thanksgiving figures included. But can "SPECTRE" battle so many new/newer movies this Thanksgiving weekend?

  • Box office results "SPECTRE" on 22.11.2015:
    --> $158.5 Million: Domestic Box Office (USA/Canada)
    --> $530.9 Million: Foreign Box Office
    --> $689.4 Million: Global Box Office (after 30 days in release, 19 days in the USA/Canada....11 days after UK release)

    Typo??
  • kultschar wrote: »
    Box office results "SPECTRE" on 22.11.2015:
    --> $158.5 Million: Domestic Box Office (USA/Canada)
    --> $530.9 Million: Foreign Box Office
    --> $689.4 Million: Global Box Office (after 30 days in release, 19 days in the USA/Canada....11 days after UK release)

    Typo??

    No. 30 days ago the roll-out of "SPECTRE" started in the UK, Monday October 26th. 11 days later it premiered in the USA/Canada (which is now 19 days ago).
  • Only 550 k from China today, but still 4#. Today was The Martian wide release, which has made 7.7 million.
  • This post lists # of tickets sold in US-Canada for last 8 007 films (SPECTRE through Nov. 23):

    GoldenEye (1995): 24,403,900 (6,024,100); average ticket price, $4.35

    Tomorrow Never Dies (1997): 26,911,200 (5,477,800); average ticket price, $4.59

    The World Is Not Enough (1999): 24,853,800 (6,991,900); average ticket price, $5.08

    Die Another Day (2002): 27,584,000 (8,101,900); average ticket price, $5.81

    Casino Royale (2006): 25,428,700 (6,234,100); average ticket price, $6.55

    Quantum of Solace (2008): 23,449,600 (9,405,100); average ticket price, $7.18

    Skyfall (2012): 37,842,000 (10,977,000); average ticket price, $7.96

    SPECTRE (2015): 18,085,500, through Nov. 23, (8,176,900); average ticket price, $8.34

    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/25/007-movies-listed-by-number-of-tickets-sold-1995-present/


  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Gustav_Graves, actually, Thanksgiving is tomorrow, so from now until the end of the weekend, things may prove very interesting for SP! Seems it'll be passing a good bit over $700 million after Sunday, perhaps closer to $750 million if we're lucky, but who knows.
  • SP will have made 740 million on Sunday, believe me.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2015 Posts: 23,883
    Thanks @skullkrusher. I didn't know such figure existed before. Very informative.

    It shows what we suspected......that Bond pretty much has its core audience and only SF seemed to bring in a lot of newbies.......QoS lost a few (understandable because the film was not for everyone). I'm curious to see the final result for SP, once the dust settles and it's all said and done.

    It's interesting to note also that the SP opening weekend was significantly less than the QoS opening as well, in terms of ticket sales.

    Also interesting to note that the GE, TND, CR & SF multipliers (opening weekend to total ticket sales over entire run) are very strong. The others, not so good.....i.e. not the same type of 'legs'.

    TND was probably unfairly hurt on weekend one due to opening against Titanic, so its opening weekend is artificially low.
  • Yes, but SP is going to have better legs than QOS, even if there are more bockbusters running.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Yes, but SP is going to have better legs than QOS, even if there are more bockbusters running.
    If it sells as many tickets as QoS, it should make $195.6m, if those average ticket prices are accurate.

    If it has the same opening weekend multiplier as QoS, then it should make $170m or thereabouts.

    If it has the same opening weekend multiplier as SF, then it should make about $235m.

    The final number is likely to be just in the middle.....so around $200m.
  • TubesTubes The Hebrew Hammer
    Posts: 158
    I'm not sure where Gustav_Graves gets his numbers, but this is the most up to date figures I have.

    US/Canada (thru Tues.): $157,901,967
    China (thru Wed.): $80,691,200
    International (thru Sun.): $445,705,951
    Worldwide: $684,299,118

    That's roughly equal to Quantum's revenue, but with another month or two to go.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 389
    I agree, bondjames ;) I would say 185-200 million, more or less Quantum´s adjusted BO. Anyway, I think that figures above about admissions are not actuals, but estimates, using general average ticket prices of the year and the gross of the movies.
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/
  • I agree, bondjames ;) I would say 185-200 million, more or less Quantum´s adjusted BO. Anyway, I think that figures above about admissions are not actuals, but estimates, using general average ticket prices of the year and the gross of the movies.
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/

    One thing we tend to forget though. The foreign box office. Whereas the domestic gross is way more comparable to QOS, the domestic gross is much closer to that of SF. Way closer.
  • TubesTubes The Hebrew Hammer
    Posts: 158
    I agree, bondjames ;) I would say 185-200 million, more or less Quantum´s adjusted BO. Anyway, I think that figures above about admissions are not actuals, but estimates, using general average ticket prices of the year and the gross of the movies.
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/

    One thing we tend to forget though. The foreign box office. Whereas the domestic gross is way more comparable to QOS, the domestic gross is much closer to that of SF. Way closer.

    Akin to what happened with CR in 2006, with domestic BO in line with the Brosnan films and international BO increasing significantly.

  • Wow. "SPECTRE" grossed $2.2 Million in the USA on Tuesday. Whereas I thought that two days before Thanksgiving it would score around $1.7 Million.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 1,098
    Wow. "SPECTRE" grossed $2.2 Million in the USA on Tuesday. Whereas I thought that two days before Thanksgiving it would score around $1.7 Million.

    tomorrow the daily gross will be higher :)
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Just for the record I'm doing my part and seeing SP tonight so somewhere in that weekend total will be my 10 bucks :D ...I like and enjoy the film ...just wanna make that clear.
  • This post lists # of tickets sold in US-Canada for last 8 007 films (SPECTRE through Nov. 23):

    GoldenEye (1995): 24,403,900 (6,024,100); average ticket price, $4.35

    Tomorrow Never Dies (1997): 26,911,200 (5,477,800); average ticket price, $4.59

    The World Is Not Enough (1999): 24,853,800 (6,991,900); average ticket price, $5.08

    Die Another Day (2002): 27,584,000 (8,101,900); average ticket price, $5.81

    Casino Royale (2006): 25,428,700 (6,234,100); average ticket price, $6.55

    Quantum of Solace (2008): 23,449,600 (9,405,100); average ticket price, $7.18

    Skyfall (2012): 37,842,000 (10,977,000); average ticket price, $7.96

    SPECTRE (2015): 18,085,500, through Nov. 23, (8,176,900); average ticket price, $8.34

    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2015/11/25/007-movies-listed-by-number-of-tickets-sold-1995-present/


    Thank you! This tell a much clearer story of the film's popularity. If only all countries reported tickets sold! Unfortunately, it looks like Spectre has its work cut out just to match the Brosnan films. Then again, this is only two countries and representing approximately 1/5 of moviegoers across the world who have seen the film.

    Looking at the attendance for Skyfall, it seems like at least 100 million people saw it in cinemas worldwide. Now that's a truly mind-boggling figure!
  • TubesTubes The Hebrew Hammer
    Posts: 158
    Domestic Wednesday: $2,700,000
    Domestic Total: $160,601,967

    SPECTRE is tracking right between Thor: The Dark World and Interstellar (movies with similar release date in 2013 and 2014). Expect it to be between $176 and $177 million on Sunday, with a $730 million worldwide take.
  • I would say 173 million in North America and 740 million Worldwide.
  • So "SPECTRE" has been in cinema's across the globe for 30 DAYS now. Let's make some comparisons between "SKYFALL" and "SPECTRE". I did that by including the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday grosses from China and the USA/Canada. All estimates from these territories are in now.

    All other countries across the globe do not release daily estimates. So below figure includes only the estimates from Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday in the USA/Canada and China:



    "SPECTRE":
    --> 26.10.2015, Monday: UK premiere (countrywide)
    --> 06.11.2015, Friday: USA premiere
    --> 25.11.2015, Wednesday: 30 days in cinema's across the globe, 19 days in cinema's across the USA/Canada
    http://deadline.com/2015/11/hunger-games-mockingjay-part-2-spectre-international-box-office-results-1201634041/

    Box office results "SPECTRE" on 25.11.2015 (estimate):
    --> $160.2 Million: Domestic Box Office (USA/Canada)
    --> $531.0 Million: Foreign Box Office
    --> $691.2 Million: Global Box Office (after 30 days in release, 19 days in the USA/Canada....which is 11 days after UK release)



    "SKYFALL":
    --> 26.10.2012, Friday: UK premiere (countrywide)
    --> 09.11.2012, Friday: USA premiere
    --> 25.11.2012, Sunday: 30 days in cinema's across the globe, 16 days in cinema's across the USA/Canada
    http://www.businessinsider.com/skyfall-crosses-200-million-in-the-us-2012-11

    Box office results "SKYFALL" on 25.11.2012:
    --> $214.3 Million: Domestic Box Office (USA/Canada)
    --> $568.4 Million: Foreign Box Office
    --> $782.7 Million: Global Box Office (after 30 days in release, 16 days in the USA/Canada....which is 14 days after UK release)



    So....30 days since the roll-out of "SPECTRE" across the globe have passed. With that timeframe in mind, "SPECTRE" paces only $91.5 Million behind "Skyfall". Battles with "Hunger Games 4" and "The Peanuts" are now behind us. Mind you, next week: Thanksgiving ;-)! And above figures from "SKYFALL" already had the Thanksgiving figures included. But can "SPECTRE" battle so many new/newer movies this Thanksgiving weekend?

    One very pivotal thing needs to be addressed. As you know "Skyfall" came out in China in 2013, whereas for "SPECTRE" we can already update the Chinese estimates as it premiered there November 13th.
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    If it's anywhere near 750 worldwide after this weekend... yeah, that's gnarly. It will hit 850 in another month, maybe 900 by the end of the year. Not a billion but still huge.
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