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A pint everyday and a rather large miss of that Ebola stuff.
The forum police can just not defend the Newman/Arnold over Barry argument is is like comparing Mozart to the Cheeky girls.
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Bang on Sir.
Would Hitler be given a free pass just because 'he's entitled to his opinion'?
Of course not and this is just as insane.
Newman I can at least understand (but not agree with) since it's possible that you may not like the Barry approach or sound, and Newman is definitely different and more low key.
I'm curious why you prefer Arnold over Barry though. Surely a creative original who defined a sound for a generation is always superior to an uninspired (imho) replica.
I agree in all three cases.
Are you being quite serious?
I'm all for respecting opinions, horses for courses and all that, but that is pretty much akin to preferring Coldplay over Pink Floyd/Beatles/Stones/Clapton etc. (take your pick).
So you prefer the Arnold & Newman's scores to the vastly superior quality of one of the best film score composers of the 20th century?
And the vastly superior qaulity is - forgive my non-PC'ness but it is just is - musical fact.
I've said it before some people just don't have a clue when it comes to music and saying you have different tastes is not a get out of jail free card.
Barry's genius melodies compared to some generic wall paper, the man's music literally a genre in itself, he is a pioneer and those early films would be nowhere as memorable without his touch, in some cases it's the score that is the only thing worth bothering with.
Then again I'm sure there are those that think Oasis are better than The Beatles.
Well said. Different tastes cannot account for superior talent. You can 'like' Oasis more than The Beatles, but that does not make their output of better quality.
That's a bit harsh, but the back lashing you suggested is probably sufficient. Or just put the OHMSS soundtrack on loop for a few hours as punishment. ;)
I think that was going to be Jimmy Saville's defence if he was ever brought to trial. Doesn't make it right though does it?
Christ!! Well maybe one day society will be enlightened enough to embrace both your and Jimmy Saville's little peccadilloes but currently you are both regarded as deranged!!
Ouch. That's a tad hash :>
@Gettler, don't sweat it, the 'lashing' is all in good nature, it's just necessary banter - compare it to someone on a Star Wars fan forum singing the praises of EP II's screenwriter over Kasdan's The Empire Strikes Back screenplay. Similar kind of lashing will ensue.
In fact, I'd say he saved that car chase - Backfire gave the somewhat dull proceedings unfolding on the screen some energy, at least to me.
The only place where I think he really messed up was at the end - from the part where Bond enters the MI6 building onwards. There is a repetitive motive that he uses there (don't know the name of the track) which sort of builds on an SF track (I think it's Moors or something) and it just goes on and on, and becomes very annoying to me. Again, it does add some energy to the proceedings on the screen, but it's the only instance where I found Newman's work jarring to the ear.
I don't really want him back - at all, but I think his score fit the film.
Me too. I think it's better than anything he did in SF. I also like the second half of the track 'detonation'.
I know it's been mentioned here before somewhere, but did anyone notice the sort of homage to the Barry slide whistle when the helicopter does it's twirl? It's definitely paying respect to that scene.
I love that bit, but I never thought of it as an homage (although I've heard a few people mention it). It seems to me like the sort of moment that just necessitates a musical flourish. It could well be intentional, but unless I hear it from the horses mouth I'd personally chalk that one up as coincidence. I'd have to watch it again (tonight) as I've not seen it in a while, but I'm pretty sure the same cue is used during Bond's escape from the base, which also suggests it's a little motif rather than a nod to the slide whistle.
Therefore said soundtrack is great. :D