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With it, even the remain campaign wanted reforms, and several other EU countries
are demanding a referendum of their own.
Also what's done is done, it's over ! We have to work with what we've got. ;)
No, seriously ? Words fail me. And to think they are my cousins (I'm breton).
I simply enjoy arguments ) :))
The rants from the uneducated are always amusing :))
Precisely!!
@Gustav was referring to the Weimar lection in 1932 in which the Nazi's became the largest party, in his never relenting efforts to drag them into any argument about the EU. But one should not forget, they never got the majority, as it was a multy party system. The communists were second, but never the twain would meet for forming a government. In the end, the Nazi's seized power through a coupe.
Now, the real lessons learned should be, that if government goes in a direction the people don't like, they will express this in elections. This is exactly what happened. The EU wasn't reforming fast enough, and going into a direction most people in Europe don't want. It has taken 4 (!) referendums to show them this. We had the EU constitution referendums (Holland and France, both said no, but it got pushed through with only cosmetic changes) and the association with the Ukraine one (Holland again, no again) with which they still don't know what to do. And no Britain has voted to leave.
This all means that it's time Britain starts it's own reforms as quickly as possible, finding ways to become innovative and efficient again in all regions without EU money. Can they do it? Sure they can, I don't see why not. There are many modern countries capable of beeing competitive and thriving.
Instead it seems the political elite seem to want to take revenge on the people. No focus on the future, but condescending comments on how stupid everyone has been. Sad really, but also a great example of why things should change.
The EU has had it's final warning. Hopefully it's enough, and if so, in time Britain will rejoin in, say, ten years time. If not, the EU will crumble, with the countries with the highest potential getting out first, leaving a poor, highly debted (southern) EU.
Those condescending enough to claim that these matters are too complicated for a referendum ('the little people') should wonder why it's 'too complicated'. Maybe your education system isn't on par then. Perhaps that's where those 350 million should go to first?
You reap what you sow. This has been a long way coming and you've turned a blind eye, as has the EU. Now open your eyes and go work on a prosperous Britain without whining (if you do, the Scots may want to remain in Britain). Or watch as Great Britain will fade away in history. It's your choice.
Might be voter fatigue ?
http://www.therebel.media/shock_video_i_was_attacked_by_anti_fascist_thugs_in_london
In 1215. Which I think k is a little before the EU was formed. :)) Once again
" Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story " ;)
This.
Maybe the Exit vote, which was democratically chosen, has a lot to do with the EU failing to earning trust and respect from the people of the countries that compose it.
Yes, quite right. Fancy letting those scummy working class English people have a say. They should never have been trusted to do what the politicians, and their Big Business paymasters,, told them to do
And that Corbyn fellow is useless. He totally failed to ensure his Labour supporters voted the way they were told. How can anyone have confidence in a leader of a political party whi cannot control his supporters
The poor man was murdered by a 'nutter' who had fascist sympathies. Yes, you have to be crazy to kill someone. That goes for EVERYONE who kills. But the man did shout 'Britain First'. I find it rather pathetic that we simple....erase that fact from our collective minds. Shameful really.
I agree. Those on here who claim there is no connection are wrong.
Mad or not, the man was motivated by forces or hatred stoked by this leave campaign.
What you fail to acknowledge is simply that you guys haven't won by a large margin. You barely took victory by a bit more than half. Meaning you take half the country hostage on your journey down Mosley's memory lane. And judging by the vile comments of some Bratzis I can perfectly understand why the other half of the country doesn't want to indulge you in toeing your party line. As a jock I wasn't surprised at all, I expected no different from my so-called English brethren. But you will find it's a great deal more difficult to make good on the promises of Murdoch's Sturmer press and Toady's campaign. I don't give much of a sh** if you guys want to cut off your noses. Come and try to make me. :D
The leave campaign was lead by hatred, but the Remain campaign was lead by fear. Either way you look at it, the entire campaign was a big piece of sh*t, by both sides.
and Once again Getafix, the guy was mentally ill, and had threatened
Mrs Cox before, the police new about it, and he didn't shout "Britain first".
This is all infomation from the Police. Although as always.....
" Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story " :))
And not just that. If he wasn't otherwise occupied by now he'd no doubt celebrate Britain's awakening with his chums around here. And they wouldn't be in the least bothered, would they?
For the record, any bloody Nazi is an enemy of mine. And of every decent character, be they Britons, Europeans or any other nationality. If you even dare arguing that you need not expect any sympathy from me.
But it must be hard typing with a pencil held in the mouth, as the jacket
your wearing is strapped up the back ! :))
Some where over the rainbow, way up high............ :D