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It's more common than you might think, the same way you get gay Christians despite everything the bible says. For a lot of people, religion is an identity; it's the community they were raised within and a basic code of ethics, nothing more. There's no pressure from his parents, his mother is Catholic, it's just how he sees himself.
I also long for a world free of religion. But there's a difference between criticising Islamic teachings and enciting hatred. Muslims are often wonderful people who contribute a great deal to our society, and I'm simply saying that people shouldn't be abused, prejudged, or lectured because of their identity. Arguing that they "aren't a race" is utterly meaningless semantics, although I'm not saying that you did that Wiz.
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What makes Ludovico think, that the muslims society in its beliefs are unjustified?-They can be more Human than Yourself because they fear God in a way You Never WILL do.
The Sloppiness of todays western society turns the stommacs of Rightful and justified Muslims wherever they live-but they are forced by supply reasons to consummate their lives in a way that their beliefs does not RECCOMEND..!
This is eating them, and if You were in their position it WILL eat You too..!
Your ignorance is not better than theirs.(Generally Speaking).
And even IF there was a god and it happened to be the Muslim god, worshiping him or obeying him would be entirely up to them, not me or anyone else. And I would add that their god is a rather unpleasant a petty ruler who does not deserve to be worshiped or obeyed.
Most moderate religious people I've met seem to identify with the Muslim or Christian God, but usually accept that their holy books were written by men as a basic moral guide for uneducated sand dwellers two thousand years ago. I suppose you could say that they subscribe to an "inner truth", rather than following it all word for word.
I think it's all as mad as you do, but I'm concerned about a growing attitude that says Muslims should be punished or be apologising for the actions of terrorists.
What a bold post.
-"The Burdon of Proof" is; Nobody on this earth have any concluding last EVIDENCE of Gods EXISTENCE; Likewise NOBODY are able to leave any concluding last EVIDENCE of God's UN-EXISTENCE..! (that is the matter of fact as we know it.).
And I notice that you refuse to acknowledge the rather dubious moral nature of said worshiped God, existing or not.
I would rather have a moderate Muslim or Christian as a fundie one as neighbour, but that does not change the fact that they decide to follow a faith they themselves know is flawed. If the holy book is mistaken on many issues, if its doctrin cannot be applied in the modern world, why call it holy? What's the inner truth they subscribe to?
Corbyn. Although he's a bit right wing, believes in Slavery and killing gay
People, but everyone gets a bit more right wing as they get older.
@Ludovico, correct, sir.
@MyNameIsMyBondRn, as secular people who have already witnessed the gruesome consequences of being slave to the mass hysteria called organised religion, we have a duty to wash those brain slugs from the minds of people currently making the same mistake. These aren't medieval times any more with only a handful of humans in the entire world, no weapons of mass destruction and no dramatic climate change at hand, where delusional people can affect, at worst, their local village. Instead we're living in a world that's overpopulated (mainly because of ridiculous cultural and religious mandates to keep women around as uneducated child factories), that has the tools to destroy half a continent at the push of a button and that's facing one of its worst ecological (and consequently economical, political, ...) crises since the dawn of Man. So yes, Muslim beliefs are unjustified, insane and dangerous, passing them on to their children is a form of child abuse that furthermore puts those children in a competitive disadvantage and facilitates their sympathy for terrorism, and the fact that they "fear god" is perhaps the single most powerful tool evil people have to agitate their followers and send them out to blow themselves up. Furthermore, how, in the face of compelling scientific evidence that nullifies every . single . detail in those so-called holy books, one can still cling to archaic doctrine, is beyond me. But then, if you fail to properly educate the young, if you replace maths, astronomy and physics for teachings in religious dogma, then you're deliberately building an army of frustrated, misguided, dangerous and delirious folks. It happens in the Islamic world, it happens amongst Jehova's Witnesses, it happens in the USA, it happens everywhere. We should no longer condone this but then, we, secular folks, WE are the true prophets of peace. We don't live by the sword, we don't mix in other people's affairs, we don't blow up churches or shoot people. Our weapons are education, information, public fora... Raising our voice is the most violent thing we can be accused of doing. We don't decapitate "infidels". We don't crucify heliocentric cosmologists. We don't kill reason, truth and logic; we don't make up stories, false promises and reasons for terror. We kindly leave that to the followers of the "religion of peace", which almost every religion claims to be by the way. Book burners, suicide bombers, wife enslavers, homophobic hate preachers in Baptist Churches, ... they are, indeed, spreaders of the word of a "religion of peace", the word of a fictitious supernatural being that loves us all yet apparently wants us all brutally slain the minute we start using the brain that 'He' sarcastically blessed us with. Open your eyes, use your brain, unbuckle yourself from the clutches of dogmatic authority. Understand that you were put here for no reason, by no-one and that the cosmos will never know you exist nor care about you. And then, you can finally start making a difference by being a modest, kind, rational person.
No; UN alludes to; Urbi N(N=14)= You can divide 14 in 2 parts and the result is 7; 7 can NOT be divided with Wordly means; according to the old greeks 7 is the old greeks definition of where NATURE starts to Produce discord in form of DISTORTION; URBI means CITY; and in its turn CITIZEN; Are; According to the Urban citizen this is a common knowledge..!= UN-EXISTENCE..!
So the defintion of humanity is to live in fear and behave yourself? What a perfect justification for a dictatorship and, at the same time, undermining the ability for humans to do good things whilst not living in fear. Also, wonderfully insulting to all atheists as, by definition, they dont live in fear of God and, so , cant be as human as someone living under the fear of God.
I love these posts as they provide clear and concise evidence of how far we have to go and just how muddled our thinking still is.
That is really nasty, and God like.
-Actually it is in latin terms ; UN EXO FACTO! (Urbi N/14 Excelcior 'X'(=unknown) Omnibus(=wordly) F/6 Aurii 'C'(=100 senators in the parliament) Thesis Omnibus(=wordly); Even the urban citizens knows that 14 can only be divided Once the question has an unknown factor Wordly that can not be helped by using the number 6 to divide it so it becomes 3; (as) Seen by the one hundred Senators in The Parliament deciding over the matter..!
Who the hell is this guy and what on Earth is he banging on about?
-I have nothing to do with hell; The Sciences knows what I have told You here.
It belongs to worldly facts that most peoples have forgotten.
This earth are depending on facts like that.
-Actually it is; METAPHORA; apropos- are Your glass half full or half EMTY?!
Form of human contact. Apart from. His Mom shouting down into the basement. :D
I'm certain we'll read about him some year, another sad, inadequate, loner going off
On one. :))
I've come to think of him as MI6's own " Nutter on the bus" ;) always laughed AT
and never With ! :))
With adequate knowledge One Seldom needs to be at a staggering loss; IGNORANCE killed the cat; curiosity without knowledge is contraproductive..!-how was it; is Your Glass Half FULL or just half EMTY?!..?
-No; The Question was; Is Your Glass Half Full or Just Half Emty?