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IMO, the three REALLY silly Bonds are:
DAF- a poor excuse for endless puns & one-liners.
MR- a poor excuse for a bad Star Wars film.
DAD- a poor excuse for employing a lot of SFX guys.
And the winner is:
Moonraker. Face it, nothing beats the bad zero-G and the laser battle in space. :))
We are running from an allmighty villain who can do about anything, bombing an office through cyberspace, escape from prison, have preplanned bomb waiting for 007........ And we are running of to the Highlands together unplanned because it makes sense, how exactly I still do not know but some think it is cool. For me this was the proof that they should fire M and they found somebody to do it in such a way I would call him a moron too.
SF please................ They should have called for the space-marines they would even have made sense in this movie. Albeit not as cool as in MR.
MR, on the other hand, dived into sheer spoof territory.
MR
TMWTGG
DAF
DAD
I can barely watch TMWTGG, it annoys me and the silliness ruins the film; I can watch Moonraker sometimes but fast forward it a good deal and it still contains the absolute biggest amount of pure silliness, DAF is just neon trash for much of it, and parts of DAD are good, but the stupid/silly parts do ruin the entire film (including Jinx in that).
You know I missed the spoof territory you so clearly seem to dislike. It might be the one movie in the 007 series that has been taken the mickey taken out of it the most but it is not a spoof of anything.
MR was decided to do when the Star Treks & Star Wars of that time showed that there was money to be made out of space adventures. Cubby made the right choice at that time to do MR. The movie rarely goes into the outragiousscifi territory and it is all played fairly straight forward about a billionaire with an obsession for space and recreating the world to his ideas, not unlike Stromberg in TSWLM.
The science of MR was actually quite close to reality, if we have the abilities shown in MR will undoubtely be closer to the truth than we think. And the effects of MR are still standing up today as bloody good.
The one annoying thing is the demasculation of JAWS at the end, before he was a pretty scary guy, as shown in that alley in Rio.
OTT sure, as in most 007 movies, spoof not really s the movie contains to many grim moments.
DAD is silly yet hateful.
But how the Bond fan feels? Hmmm.
DAD makes me feel ... embarrassed, sick to my stomach at times, want to slap Jinx and punch the director ... oh yeah, well, I can see what you mean a bit. ;)
I don't hate it, though, thanks to some good moments and Brosnan in it was fine.
Just a silly, waste of a film.
I enjoy outrageous Bond (TND is in my top 5), I can deal with crappy Bond (DAD), but I draw the line at stupid Bond.
Silliest overall is either DAD, DAF or MR.
That's one of the reasons I rate MR lowly actually, it's too similar to TSWLM. They even bought back the same henchman. I love TSWLM but why would I want to see a retread of it, in space, with added silliness? MR has some great moments but overall I do think it's pretty poor.
But what kills me, it's ALMOST a great movie... when I read Christopher Wood's novelization of his screenplay, I see what it COULD have been.
Awesome miniatures, even better score, Rog in top form, and they had to go and wreck it with that dopey kid-friendly ha-ha, pew-pew Major Matt Mason crap... ~X(
MR does contain some truthfull sequences like the Shuttle launches, which had not taken place at the moment the movie was released. And it smuggled a wee bit with the truth not unlike Silva's cyberbomb attack.
The invisible car is stupid, but also harmless fun, it did not bother me so much. JAWS was always a rather impossible character but a menacing one for most of two movies.
Okay laser rifles do not excist, quite a few 007 movies have lasers in them that are a wee bit impossible, even Connery did have one in his car.
The space marines were the cavalary needed to help 007, why not he got help from ninja's before and a whole platoon of marines in Cuba of all palces in GE.
The Flint movies are more a spoof as it preyed on 007 popularity.
TND is not that outrageous imho, DAD is a great actioner with a lot of fun in a way no other franchise can ever hope to get away with. And this franchise has done so a lot of times. Brosnan played his best 007 peronage in that movie.
I never found MR stupid Bond, it was more epic Bond. In SF there was a stupid Bond that made choices that were well...............stupid................even if he makes it look cool.
In MR he dates a woman called Goodhead, now there is a potential promise which is just too good to resist. Not doing it is stupid. ;)
If I had the software, I'd do a fan edit of MR, remove about ten minutes and make it a much better movie.
I have always had a problem with movies edited by folks not involved in its original production, or when studios decide that they know better for example Alien3.
That said the James Cameron extended version of his movies did make sense and even Ridley Scotts version of "Kingdom of Heaven" trumps the studio version everytime.
Fans and their cuts I steer clear of out of respect for the original makers. But I will admit that several years back I found a copy on internet of NSNA in which somebody from MI6, the site, had replaced all music in put John Barry's music and it did make the movie a lot better. Sadly I lost that copy in a computercrash and have never been able to find it again.
;)
But you'll never convince me about MR as it is my 1st love when it comes to the 007 franchise, and am perhaps rather stubborn in my defense of this epic, beautifull filmed and outrageous movie.
However, for me, QOS was just plain dumb(silly) from start to finish.