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I'd have to agree as well. Baldwin's debut as Trump was hilarious, but since then both he and SNL have been very poor in covering the election, the above clip being the low point of their election coverage thus far.
All the show had going for it in the last decade-plus was that it did a great job of satirizing our presidential elections. Now that they can't even do that right, I don't see much point in tuning in to the show at all. NBC will probably never cancel it, but it's window of relevance has closed and it exists purely for nostalgia at this point.
There's no subtle and nuanced way to discuss Trump at all. It's like approaching a rhino with feather duster. Just get your shotgun & blast away before Hillary confiscates all the shotguns...
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Just so happens Hitler is the most extreme example of disastrous consequences following a democratic election. Kind of handy to have these examples to hand when discussing potential political election of extreme candidates.
Are you contradicting yourself? Very well then, you are contradicting yourself, you are vast, you contain multitudes.
Paraphrasing Walt Whitman though I may be, you can't have it both ways, @bondjames. Either Trump is showing us his true self, or he isn't. Either we take his campaign statements as honest indications of what he'd try to do as President, or they aren't. If they are indeed open indications of his character then he's reprehensible and you try to defend him at your own (dare I say moral?) peril. If it's all just a ploy to get his message across without spending millions of $$$ on advertising then maybe he should go ahead & spend the money. For a while there he was raising all kinds of $$$ until he went into the serious melt-down mode he's in now. He's not going to be able to keep the $$$, campaign law forbids that sort of behavior. Of course, the law has never been an obstacle to The Donald before, why should it be so now?
When I was referring to his openness, I was referring to his character, warts and all. He doesn't hide his true self. She does, like Gore did. She's just as bad as he is or worse in my view, but she's just better at hiding it.
I wouldn't worry about it. As I said before, he'll start his new tv channel, new third party or be back to running Trump Organization soon enough.
Be careful what you wish for, because you're about to get it.
Not sure either candidate is particularly likeable. Surely going to be an interesting last few weeks that's for sure. Feels like we're living in strange times at the moment with one thing and another.
Someone like Trump OR Hillary would have long been forced to step down from the race in probably every European Country.
I'm not sure there is a line. Politics are a heightened form of reality TV, which America is absolutely addicted to. I think they'd have to catch a candidate on film actually committing a crime (not simply talking about committing one, as what happened with Trump) for any supposed line to be crossed.
I just hope that the 2020 election is a hardline reaction against this election. I hope that both the bases of the Republican and Democratic parties are so disgusted with what has happened this time around that when the time comes for them to put forward their next nominee (one will do so in 2020, the other in 2024), that we get candidates that can actually inspire people and run idea-driven campaigns, rather than just trash their opponent and engage in races to see who can get to the gutter first.
Then again, we know that won't happen.
So how much of that from him do you not take literally, and how much do you take to be the real Trump? You say he doesn't hide who he is, but a person's brand is seldom who they are, so which is it?
As I mentioned months back on this thread, he is from the WWE school of marketing. Take an element of your personality that people see (even if it's not truly who you are) and blow it up for emphasis. I posted this a few months back but am doing so again here. Listen from 10:30 onwards to 11:45
Was Trump marketing himself to the American electorate as an entertainer, then? I don't think so. He was marketing himself as a businessman...only he could fix the mess that is our tax system, and our rotten business deals with China. If he was trying to market a businessman using an entertainer's promotional model, then that was a fundamental error on Trump's part. Perhaps his first, but certainly not his last.
Some of us understood the gist of his remarks. Others took offence, because they were looking at his comments literally. As I said months back on this thread, his border wall and ban from various countries were security measures which would be clarified, and not religious or racial tests. That has been clear to me from the start.
Ultimately, he fought this campaign the only way he could. He was laughed off the stage from the very start and yet confounded the odds by playing to the microphone and doing what he knew best. As I said earlier, he's made several mistakes along the way, but so does every candidate, and that's why they become so scripted and secretive as they stay in the political world. They also improve with each campaign. Keep in mind that he is a first time candidate for the highest office, and has done a remarkable job to get this far. I continue to respect his ability to communicate freely and openly, while amplifying important issues. He cannot be taken literally while campaigning, but if you listen to what he says and dial it back to reality, he is often not wrong.
Outside of his experience and your opinion on his expertise, this is a seriously flawed human being, can you see how some of us have problem grasping your support of him?
I'm actually shocked at your relaxed attitude to such a man.
For the record, in case anyone cares, I don't condone any sexually predatory behaviour at all. If it occurred, the perpetrator (no matter who he/she is) should be incarcerated.
Funny, I thought he was "open" and "honest". Where I come from, you can take open and honest people at their word.
Hmmm, funny, because I found it hilariously funny :D.
Sanders was not a member of the Democratic Party. Can't leave a place that you never were...
This is news to ONLY you.
Same question for me. It seems that both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump tried to become succesful within the Democratic and Republican Party frame. But isn't it more......logical that both Trump and Sanders start their own...party? I mean, look what Trump is doing now to the GOP. The Republican Party is basically rotting away from the inside out thanks to Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump this time will start a new political party.