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  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    NSGW wrote: »
    I've noticed a lot of lists featuring TLD, QOS, FYEO and OP much higher up than I expected, seems that Bond fans seems to like those films more than general audiences. I like all of them a lot as well I can just never quite justify them making my top 10. Perhaps with time they'll continue to edge further up. Interesting how rankings change for people over the years, its only those top few, and bottom couple, for me that are usually secure.

    For me,out of those films you mentioned,TLD will always be rock bottom of my list,and im not greatly keen on FYEO,but QOS is #4 and OP #6 .

  • NSGWNSGW London
    edited March 2017 Posts: 299
    barryt007 wrote: »
    For me,out of those films you mentioned,TLD will always be rock bottom of my list,and im not greatly keen on FYEO,but QOS is #4 and OP #6 .

    Although I'm still relatively new here, I've come across your distinctive taste when it comes to TLD and a certain Bond girl many a time thus far..
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    NSGW wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    For me,out of those films you mentioned,TLD will always be rock bottom of my list,and im not greatly keen on FYEO,but QOS is #4 and OP #6 .

    Although I'm still relatively new here, I've come across your distinctive taste when it comes to TLD and a certain Bond girl many a time thus far..

    You will,alas.

  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    NSGW wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    For me,out of those films you mentioned,TLD will always be rock bottom of my list,and im not greatly keen on FYEO,but QOS is #4 and OP #6 .

    Although I'm still relatively new here, I've come across your distinctive taste when it comes to TLD and a certain Bond girl many a time thus far..

    There are also those of us, that place TLD in a higher regard. Top five for me. I also actually like Kara. Not sure why you gets so harshly criticised. It's refreshing to see a leading lady that wasn't part of another spy agency, or was Bonds equal.

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Benny wrote: »
    NSGW wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    For me,out of those films you mentioned,TLD will always be rock bottom of my list,and im not greatly keen on FYEO,but QOS is #4 and OP #6 .

    Although I'm still relatively new here, I've come across your distinctive taste when it comes to TLD and a certain Bond girl many a time thus far..

    There are also those of us, that place TLD in a higher regard. Top five for me. I also actually like Kara. Not sure why you gets so harshly criticised. It's refreshing to see a leading lady that wasn't part of another spy agency, or was Bonds equal.

    +1.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    TLD used to be much higher in my ranking. It has declined precipitously with each watch recently. I must give it another try and see if it can be salvaged in my mind.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    NSGW wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    For me,out of those films you mentioned,TLD will always be rock bottom of my list,and im not greatly keen on FYEO,but QOS is #4 and OP #6 .

    Although I'm still relatively new here, I've come across your distinctive taste when it comes to TLD and a certain Bond girl many a time thus far..

    There are also those of us, that place TLD in a higher regard. Top five for me. I also actually like Kara. Not sure why you gets so harshly criticised. It's refreshing to see a leading lady that wasn't part of another spy agency, or was Bonds equal.

    +1.
    +2
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    bondjames wrote: »
    TLD used to be much higher in my ranking. It has declined precipitously with each watch recently. I must give it another try and see if it can be salvaged in my mind.

    Perhaps one of the most overlooked films in the James Bond series, this one brought things back down to Earth for the series. Timothy Dalton is perhaps the most underrated actor to play James Bond, due to his rather brief stint as the character. He is terrific in both his films, and gives 007 a brooding that Bond has not had in any of his previous films. The movie is also good because the romance between Dalton and Mariam D'abo is there and is wonderful to see. As soon as he got the part Dalton went straight back to the source material..ie Ian Fleming's novels & it shows on the screen...the bond in the Living Daylights is the Bond character jumping right out of the books. I love it.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,134
    suavejmf wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    TLD used to be much higher in my ranking. It has declined precipitously with each watch recently. I must give it another try and see if it can be salvaged in my mind.

    Perhaps one of the most overlooked films in the James Bond series, this one brought things back down to Earth for the series. Timothy Dalton is perhaps the most underrated actor to play James Bond, due to his rather brief stint as the character. He is terrific in both his films, and gives 007 a brooding that Bond has not had in any of his previous films. The movie is also good because the romance between Dalton and Mariam D'abo is there and is wonderful to see. As soon as he got the part Dalton went straight back to the source material..ie Ian Fleming's novels & it shows on the screen...the bond in the Living Daylights is the Bond character jumping right out of the books. I love it.

    I agree, TLD has always been in my top 10. I don't think that will ever change.

    The post-credits sequence is also one of the series' very best scenes.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Agree @GoldenGun.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    The post-credits sequence is also one of the series' very best scenes.
    This is really not in question imho. It's certainly one of the best post-credits sequences.
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited March 2017 Posts: 19,339
    It is good...it won the elimination game as well,dont forget,peeps,although I could be wrong..
  • NSGWNSGW London
    Posts: 299
    I have always really liked Dalton's portrayal and applaud him for trying to get back to Fleming's original vision. I just happen to prefer how relentless he is in LTK (#8 on my list) and I think the material suits his Bond a little better.

    I also agree that Kara is a superb Bond girl, I think the final act in Afghanistan and somewhat forgettable villains restrict it from being up there with the very best of Bond for me. The pre and post credit sequences have always stood out as two of my favourite scenes since I was a kid and that scene in the hotel room Pushkin is simply Bond at his best.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    NSGW wrote: »
    I have always really liked Dalton's portrayal and applaud him for trying to get back to Fleming's original vision. I just happen to prefer how relentless he is in LTK (#8 on my list) and I think the material suits his Bond a little better.

    I also agree that Kara is a superb Bond girl, I think the final act in Afghanistan and somewhat forgettable villains restrict it from being up there with the very best of Bond for me. The pre and post credit sequences have always stood out as two of my favourite scenes since I was a kid and that scene in the hotel room Pushkin is simply Bond at his best.
    I much prefer LTK as well. It seems much more organic and natural to Dalton's intense portrayal.

    I disagree on Kara though. I think she brings the whole film down a few notches. Right idea, but wrong actress, again imho.
  • NSGWNSGW London
    edited March 2017 Posts: 299
    bondjames wrote: »
    I much prefer LTK as well. It seems much more organic and natural to Dalton's intense portrayal.

    I disagree on Kara though. I think she brings the whole film down a few notches. Right idea, but wrong actress, again imho.

    I can understand how some may have issues with her but I thought the actress did a good job and I tend to prefer Bond girls that allow Bond to shine, rather than trying to compete as his equal like Jynx or Wai Lin. She reminds me a little of Tatiana in FRWL; Kara is admittedly less useful but one of the more human bond girls imo.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    NSGW wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I much prefer LTK as well. It seems much more organic and natural to Dalton's intense portrayal.

    I disagree on Kara though. I think she brings the whole film down a few notches. Right idea, but wrong actress, again imho.

    I can understand how some may have issues with her but I thought the actress did a good job and I tend to prefer Bond girls that allow Bond to shine, rather than trying to compete as his equal like Jynx or Wai Lin. She reminds me a little of Tatiana in FRWL; Kara is admittedly less useful but one of the more human bond girls imo.
    I personally think Bianchi is one of the best. I agree that this is probably what they were going for with Kara, but sadly D'Abo didn't have the appeal for me and just appeared too whiney (as did Lowell's Pam in LTK).

    I too don't have time for 'equal to Bond' b/s. Nobody can equal Bond and it's about time some of these Bond 'girls' come to terms with that.
  • deucelowdeucelow
    Posts: 40
    @suavejmf

    +1

    TLD is brilliant. It's got everything in it. Necros might be the last great Bond henchman. Exploding milk bottles, speaks accents and languages flawlessly, the walkman providing his own personal killing soundtrack - and extremely prescient seeing how many people I see headphones on these days!)
    The car is brilliant. Dalton is intense, dangerous and violent. But he's also alternately compassionate, caring, suave intelligent and loyal. TLD features John Barrys final Bond score and it's brilliant as well.
    I dug Kara and Bonds relationship. The films direction here is not great, but initially Bond is just using her to get to Koskov. His coldness to her following Saunders murder in Vienna is telling. Her betrayal of him in Tangier similiarly so. But they come to genuinely care for each other, as evidenced by the cliff hanger at the end, when we're meant to believe Bond has stood her up.
    I wrote elsewhere that I understand due to his health, Walter Gotell was only briefly in the film. The character of General Gogol was meant to be the central figure on the Russian side; instead the writers were forced to write Mishkin, John Rhys-Davies character into the film. This is a shame, I think he would have leant weight to the plot and helped bridge the gap between Moore era Bond and the new era.
    The film slows down in Afghanistan, and it's not TLD fault that subsequent events in that country have made much of the second half of the film uncomfortable viewing. Horse riding mujahideen toting guns, transporting and protecting opium to bay the bills, and waging jihad against the evil Soviet juggernaut. In light of the Taliban that followed the Soviet withdrawal, it comes across as more naive nonsense than it ought to. But that is not the films fault.
    Luckily the fight between Necros and Bond saves the last half of the film. It is jaw dropping stuff, literally awe inspiring. With Roger Moore in the role, scenes like this were no longer plausible. Dalton has no such issues. He is utterly believable throughout. TLD has also aged really well IMO better than GoldenEye that followed eight years later.
  • GamesBond007GamesBond007 Golden Grotto
    Posts: 66
    I'm on the TLD love boat. I think it's a great film that straddles the line between summer blockbuster and gritty spy thriller. It manages to keep a mostly serious tone while still retaining some of the more indulgent elements of the series.

    I can understand that Dalton isn't everyone's cup of tea but I can appreciate his more vulnerable/frustrated turn as Bond. Even looking back to Connery, the character rarely ever felt in danger or capable of sympathy. Every actor since has been informed by Dalton's more human take on the character.

    As for Kara, she deserves more credit. Not Bond's equal, not out for revenge, simply endearing. She is exactly what we needed in my opinion.
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    GamesBond007 wrote: »
    I'm on the TLD love boat. I think it's a great film that straddles the line between summer blockbuster and gritty spy thriller. It manages to keep a mostly serious tone while still retaining some of the more indulgent elements of the series.

    I can understand that Dalton isn't everyone's cup of tea but I can appreciate his more vulnerable/frustrated turn as Bond. Even looking back to Connery, the character rarely ever felt in danger or capable of sympathy. Every actor since has been informed by Dalton's more human take on the character.

    As for Kara, she deserves more credit. Not Bond's equal, not out for revenge, simply endearing. She is exactly what we needed in my opinion.

    I like her but can see why some people (@barry007) hate her. For me it is better to have a leading lady who is actually relevant to the plot. I also like that there is some mystery about her and that she is quite credible as a young musician who is a bit naive being brought into a completely new environment where she doesn't know whom to trust. I also like her vulnerability. Some people might call her dull because of that, I would call her realistc. I must say that I don't care much about all the very tough Bond girls, especially those who are not really essential to the plot and are just there for the sake of tradition. I don't care much about all the other female agents who actually do not add much to the plot but just team up with Bond since they more or less have the same mission. I rather prefer the more mysterious Bond girls: Vesper, Elektra, Severine, Melina, Octopussy, Andrea, Solitaire and also Kara.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,169
    Updated ranking:
    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    3. DR NO
    4. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. THUNDERBALL
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. CASINO ROYALE '06
    8. OCTOPUSSY
    9. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    11. LIVE AND LET DIE
    12. GOLDENEYE
    13. A VIEW TO A KILL
    14. LICENCE TO KILL
    15. SKYFALL
    16. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    17, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    18. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    19. SPECTRE
    20. MOONRAKER
    21. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    22. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    23. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    24. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    25. CASINO ROYALE '67
    26. DIE ANOTHER DAY



  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Time for an update :

    1.OHMSS
    2.FRWL
    3.CR
    4.QOS
    5.TB
    6.OP
    7.SF
    8.GE (+2)
    9.TWINE (+2)
    10.LTK (-2)
    11.TSWLM (-2)
    12.SP (+1)
    13.DN (+1)
    14.TND (-2)
    15.GF
    16.AVTAK
    17.LALD
    18.DAD(+2)
    19.YOLT(-1)
    20.TMWTGG (+1)
    21.FYEO (-2)
    22.DAF
    23.MR
    24.TLD
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    01. TLD
    02. FYEO
    03. FRWL
    04. GE (+1)
    05. OHMSS (+1)
    06. SF (+8)
    07. GF (-3)
    08. AVTAK (-1)
    09. YOLT
    10. LALD
    11. TSWLM (+6)
    12. CR (-4)
    13. OP
    14. DAF (+5)
    15. TWINE
    16. DN (-5)
    17. TB (-5)
    18. TMWTGG (-2)
    19. LTK (-1)
    20. MR
    21. SP
    22. TND
    23. QoS
    24. DAD
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 1,263
    That's a steep fall for DN. Having just seen it, I am pretty sure it will be on the upswing for me! It is one of those films that doesn't always sit perfect for you, but it has all of the right ingredients.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,169
    Birdleson wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Updated ranking:
    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    3. DR NO
    4. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. THUNDERBALL
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. CASINO ROYALE '06
    8. OCTOPUSSY
    9. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    10. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    11. LIVE AND LET DIE
    12. GOLDENEYE
    13. A VIEW TO A KILL
    14. LICENCE TO KILL
    15. SKYFALL
    16. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    17, YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    18. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    19. SPECTRE
    20. MOONRAKER
    21. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    22. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    23. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    24. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    25. CASINO ROYALE '67
    26. DIE ANOTHER DAY

    I really like your Top Seven.

    Thanks! The rest of my top 10 are mostly nostalgia. I imagine in a few years when SF and SP become older I'll get a nostalgia kick for those as well and up their rankings.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    Benny wrote: »
    Well this is how my ranking looked after my Bondathon from earlier in the year.

    1. Dr.No
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. From Russia With Love
    4. Octopussy
    5.The Living Daylights
    6. Casino Royale
    7. Goldfinger
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9. Thunderball
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    11. GoldenEye
    12. Spectre
    13. Live And Let Die
    14. Licence To Kill
    15. You Only Live Twice
    16. Skyfall
    17. Diamonds Are Forever
    18. The Man With The Golden Gun
    19. Moonraker
    20. Die Another Day
    21. Tomorrow Never Dies
    22. A View To A Kill
    23. Quantum Of Solace
    24. The World Is Not Enough

    Few moves on my Bond ranking. About six months since I did this so...

    1. From Russia With Love (+2)
    2. Dr.No (-1)
    3. Casino Royale (+3)
    4. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (-2)
    5. The Living Daylights (-)
    6. Octopussy (-2)
    7. Goldfinger (-)
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me (-)
    9. Thunderball (-)
    10. Goldeneye (+1)
    11. Live And Let Die (+2)
    12. For Your Eyes Only (-2)
    13. You Only Live Twice (+2)
    14. Spectre (-2)
    15. Licence To Kill (-1)
    16. Skyfall (-1)
    17. Diamonds Are Forever (-1)
    18. Die Another Day (+2)
    19. Moonraker (-)
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun (-2)
    21. Tomorrow Never Dies (-)
    22. A View To A Kill (-)
    23. Quantum Of Solace (-)
    24. The World Is Not Enough (-)

    Few jumps in the middle of the ranks. Nothing too drastic.
    Top 10 remains largely the same. Though GE has finally cracked the 10.

  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,197
    Mansfield wrote: »
    That's a steep fall for DN. Having just seen it, I am pretty sure it will be on the upswing for me! It is one of those films that doesn't always sit perfect for you, but it has all of the right ingredients.

    That's true. I usually like it a lot when I watch it but I haven't watched it for a while. The thing is that all the films between 8 and 20 do not differ sp very much in quality for me so bigger changes do not mean that I don't like these films anymore.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    Posts: 1,263
    GBF wrote: »
    That's true. I usually like it a lot when I watch it but I haven't watched it for a while. The thing is that all the films between 8 and 20 do not differ sp very much in quality for me so bigger changes do not mean that I don't like these films anymore.
    Yeah, I'm guilty of the same thing with similar approximate places in my rankings. For me, those spots are occupied by second half Connery films, Moore films, and Brosnan films.
  • Jazz007Jazz007 Minnesota
    edited May 2017 Posts: 257
    Updating....

    1. Casino Royale
    2. Thunderball
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. From Russia With Love
    5. Skyfall
    6. Quantum of Solace
    7. The Living Daylights
    8. Dr. No
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me
    10. Spectre
    11. Licence To Kill
    12. For Your Eyes Only
    13. Goldfinger
    14. You Only Live Twice
    15. Moonraker
    16. Live and Let Die
    17. The Man With The Golden Gun
    18. GoldenEye
    19. Diamonds Are Forever
    20. Octopussy
    21. A View To A Kill
    22. Die Another Day
    23. Tomorrow Never Dies
    24. The World Is Not Enough
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2017 Posts: 23,883
    A few updates after a pseudo mini-Bondathon.

    1. FRWL
    2. TB
    3. CR
    4. TSWLM
    5. OHMSS
    6. DN
    7. GE
    8. SF
    9. OP
    10. LTK
    11. LALD
    12. FYEO
    13. TLD
    14. QoS
    15. GF
    16. TMWTGG
    17. TND
    18. DAF
    19. YOLT
    20. MR
    21. SP
    22. AVTAK
    23. DAD
    24. TWINE
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,473
    I love GF
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