Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 2017 Posts: 8,395
    bondjames wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    At this rate, I'm fairly certain a large number of fans will be disappointed with the casting of the next Bond

    Yep. I mean there are even a surprising amount of people on social media that don't even want Craig to return. People will never be happy.
    If that's the case I'm not surprised at all. Perfect opportunity to shake it up. I have faith, despite recent rumblings. Otherwise, this could be the most anticlimactic two year wait in history after all that's been percolating over the previous two.

    I agree, very anticlimactic. And the way they have chosen to announce it, if it is Craig, is baffling also. No matter how popular a Bond actor is, there is an inherent excitement and drama when they leave the role and we are between actors. For them to invoke that by saying "James Bond will return" instead of "Daniel Craig will return as James Bond", doesn't make any sense. Their phrasing suggests that their is some surprise or mystery involved, so to "reveal" that Bond will be indeed be played by the guy that's played him for the last decade... What?

    A better way of saying it would have just been "Bond 25 will premier on November 8th 2019 in the US." And leave it at that. Can't help but feel they are creating a rod for their own back with this deliberately ambiguous phrasing.
  • RC7RC7
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    Benny wrote: »
    If Daniel Craig isn't coming back in 2019 for Bond 25, then you can bet that EON has a short list, and is potentially looking at candidates for Bond #7

    It's my belief they've been doing this for some time. After all DC has been around for over a decade, it's a natural move for a producer, especially when talent is non-committal at a juncture such as this. Despite this, I'm 99.9% certain that Barbara wants him back (she said as much to an acquintance of mine at the turn of the year) and from what I've heard it's likely.
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    It will be Craig. They wait for Mendes to direct Spectre! They will wait for Craig to headline Bond 25 as they know it will be his last, and I believe that will play massively in the campaign when they market it!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    It will be Craig. They wait for Mendes to direct Spectre! They will wait for Craig to headline Bond 25 as they know it will be his last, and I believe that will play massively in the campaign when they market it!

    And then Nolan Bond 26?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    bondjames wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    At this rate, I'm fairly certain a large number of fans will be disappointed with the casting of the next Bond

    Yep. I mean there are even a surprising amount of people on social media that don't even want Craig to return. People will never be happy.
    If that's the case I'm not surprised at all. Perfect opportunity to shake it up. I have faith, despite recent rumblings. Otherwise, this could be the most anticlimactic two year wait in history after all that's been percolating over the previous two.

    I agree, very anticlimactic. And the way they have chosen to announce it, if it is Craig, is baffling also. No matter how popular a Bond actor is, there is an inherent excitement and drama when they leave the role and we are between actors. For them to invoke that by saying "James Bond will return" instead of "Daniel Craig will return as James Bond", doesn't make any sense. Their phrasing suggests that their is some surprise or mystery involved, so to "reveal" that Bond will be indeed be played by the guy that's played him for the last decade... What?

    A better way of saying it would have just been "Bond 25 will premier on November 8th 2019 in the US." And leave it at that. Can't help but feel they are creating a rod for their own back with this deliberately ambiguous phrasing.

    Well with the last actor, who was at the time hugely popular, they just threw him out (sort of). So with this one beeing not so popular (still making the highest grossing in the frenchise ever) they will certainly pick someone else. That makes absolutely (no) business sense.

    All in all, I'm willing to bet it's Craig again.

    And about the announcement, i think you read it wrong. the sentence is "James bond will be back in cinema's". Which is a fair way of sayin it I think. No ambiguety. Just a way to tell people the date and the writers. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    bondjames wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    At this rate, I'm fairly certain a large number of fans will be disappointed with the casting of the next Bond

    Yep. I mean there are even a surprising amount of people on social media that don't even want Craig to return. People will never be happy.
    If that's the case I'm not surprised at all. Perfect opportunity to shake it up. I have faith, despite recent rumblings. Otherwise, this could be the most anticlimactic two year wait in history after all that's been percolating over the previous two.

    Agreed. As for now, I'm glad we've got confirmation of a release date but creatively (so far) with the confirmation of P+W returning I'm just not that enthused at all.
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 4,619
    The question people here should be asking is "whom would Christopher Nolan pick?", and I don't think Hardy is the answer. He will be too old by the time the next era starts. How about Harry Styles? Forget his singing career for a second, and focus on his looks and his performance in DUNKIRK.
  • RC7RC7
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    If Harry Styles is ever Bond I will pack it in. I've never said that before, but it would be game over.
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    I'd be deeply disturbed and depressed. Please never let that happen...
  • Posts: 4,619
    You are focusing on his singing career &celebrity status, guys.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Styles was fine in Dunkirk. But as Bond? Frankly, I'd rather break this glass and slash my wrists. He'd best stick to garbage music.
  • RC7RC7
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    You are focusing on his singing career &celebrity status, guys.

    There's a little thing called 'context' which has a massive impact on how popular art/culture is received.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    At this rate, I'm fairly certain a large number of fans will be disappointed with the casting of the next Bond

    Yep. I mean there are even a surprising amount of people on social media that don't even want Craig to return. People will never be happy.
    If that's the case I'm not surprised at all. Perfect opportunity to shake it up. I have faith, despite recent rumblings. Otherwise, this could be the most anticlimactic two year wait in history after all that's been percolating over the previous two.

    I agree, I'm a fan of Craig but I'm hoping he's done at this point. Waiting two years just for an announcement that he's returning would be anti climatic enough and then waiting another two years to see it? Followed by another three or four years before we do finally get a fresh start? No thank you. New Bond in 2019 please EON.

    I think Jack O Connell could be very good. He oozes intensity and charisma, he's got that natural swagger that's essential to play Bond. Does still look quite young but I'm sure they could weather him a bit for his first film or two (like when Campbell encouraged Brosnan's stubble in GE) and he could age into the role.
  • mreamemreame United States
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    bondjames wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    At this rate, I'm fairly certain a large number of fans will be disappointed with the casting of the next Bond

    Yep. I mean there are even a surprising amount of people on social media that don't even want Craig to return. People will never be happy.
    If that's the case I'm not surprised at all. Perfect opportunity to shake it up. I have faith, despite recent rumblings. Otherwise, this could be the most anticlimactic two year wait in history after all that's been percolating over the previous two.

    I agree, I'm a fan of Craig but I'm hoping he's done at this point. Waiting two years just for an announcement that he's returning would be anti climatic enough and then waiting another two years to see it? Followed by another three or four years before we do finally get a fresh start? No thank you. New Bond in 2019 please EON.

    I think Jack O Connell could be very good. He oozes intensity and charisma, he's got that natural swagger that's essential to play Bond. Does still look quite young but I'm sure they could weather him a bit for his first film or two (like when Campbell encouraged Brosnan's stubble in GE) and he could age into the role.

    I love Craig but I don't like the direction his Bond has moved in. I think he is perfect in Casino Royale and Quantum. I have been a little disappointed by the direction they have taken his character since. I feel they are too eager to get back to a Roger Moorish feel. Some praised him in Spectre saying things like he was "at ease" in the role. To me though, that's kind of a problem. I think he turned in better performances in his earlier films. While he is still great, when he is "at ease", it's not quite the same. Honestly, the character feels slightly retconned to be more "classic".

    I have thought about Jack O Connell also. I'd be interested to see that. His age doesn't bother me. I mean Sean Connery was (I think) 32 when Dr. No came out. Lazenby was 29 when OHMSS came out. They never struck me as too young. I think screen charisma can make up for the age factor. A younger actor would work if the performance and script are good. Bond actors have to age into the role anyway. In my opinion, its better to err on the young side (28-32 years to start).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 2017 Posts: 8,395
    The question people here should be asking is "whom would Christopher Nolan pick?", and I don't think Hardy is the answer. He will be too old by the time the next era starts. How about Harry Styles? Forget his singing career for a second, and focus on his looks and his performance in DUNKIRK.

    Come to think of it, actually not a bad choice. I'm guessing Bond 26 is at least 5 years away - that puts him at 28. Not much younger than Connery and Lazenby when they started. If 51 isn't too old for Bond, then surely 28 isn't too young? He is English, tall, darkhaired and certainly has the right face for Bond. They would have no problem bringing the young female audience back into the fold with Styles that's for sure.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    For those who've seen Dunkirk, what do you think of Jack Lowden? I posted his pic on the last page (doesn't do him justice). He was quite memorable in the film imho. He was the other pilot.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The question people here should be asking is "whom would Christopher Nolan pick?", and I don't think Hardy is the answer. He will be too old by the time the next era starts. How about Harry Styles? Forget his singing career for a second, and focus on his looks and his performance in DUNKIRK.

    I knew this suggestion would catch some flack but with a bit more age I can see it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    talos7 wrote: »
    The question people here should be asking is "whom would Christopher Nolan pick?", and I don't think Hardy is the answer. He will be too old by the time the next era starts. How about Harry Styles? Forget his singing career for a second, and focus on his looks and his performance in DUNKIRK.

    I knew this suggestion would catch some flack but with a bit more age I can see it.
    I have read about this chap but I can't even recall who he was in the film. That Tommy fellow was memorable, and perhaps the Frenchman, but nobody else on 'ground' caught my attention.
    mreame wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    At this rate, I'm fairly certain a large number of fans will be disappointed with the casting of the next Bond

    Yep. I mean there are even a surprising amount of people on social media that don't even want Craig to return. People will never be happy.
    If that's the case I'm not surprised at all. Perfect opportunity to shake it up. I have faith, despite recent rumblings. Otherwise, this could be the most anticlimactic two year wait in history after all that's been percolating over the previous two.

    I agree, I'm a fan of Craig but I'm hoping he's done at this point. Waiting two years just for an announcement that he's returning would be anti climatic enough and then waiting another two years to see it? Followed by another three or four years before we do finally get a fresh start? No thank you. New Bond in 2019 please EON.

    I think Jack O Connell could be very good. He oozes intensity and charisma, he's got that natural swagger that's essential to play Bond. Does still look quite young but I'm sure they could weather him a bit for his first film or two (like when Campbell encouraged Brosnan's stubble in GE) and he could age into the role.

    I love Craig but I don't like the direction his Bond has moved in. I think he is perfect in Casino Royale and Quantum. I have been a little disappointed by the direction they have taken his character since. I feel they are too eager to get back to a Roger Moorish feel. Some praised him in Spectre saying things like he was "at ease" in the role. To me though, that's kind of a problem. I think he turned in better performances in his earlier films. While he is still great, when he is "at ease", it's not quite the same. Honestly, the character feels slightly retconned to be more "classic".

    I have thought about Jack O Connell also. I'd be interested to see that. His age doesn't bother me. I mean Sean Connery was (I think) 32 when Dr. No came out. Lazenby was 29 when OHMSS came out. They never struck me as too young. I think screen charisma can make up for the age factor. A younger actor would work if the performance and script are good. Bond actors have to age into the role anyway. In my opinion, its better to err on the young side (28-32 years to start).
    I completely agree with you on Craig, particularly in SP but also in SF.

    Regarding O'Connell, I don't have a problem with his age, but he hasn't really caught my attention in anything. I saw that film he did with Roberts and Clooney last year and they owned the screen while he disappeared.

    I agree with you age as well. As long as the actor has presence, I have no problem with a young chap. In fact, perhaps it's preferable. Moore, Brosnan, Dalton and even perhaps Craig were brought on too late imho. They would have all been better a bit earlier.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    For those who've seen Dunkirk, what do you think of Jack Lowden? I posted his pic on the last page (doesn't do him justice). He was quite memorable in the film imho. He was the other pilot.

    He was fine (everyone was), but I didn't find him particularly memorable, and I can't even comment based on that performance if he could be Bond material some years down the line. - Oh and you're correct, that pic doesn't do him justice, he looks much younger and different in it, more boyish instead of an actual grown-up.

    Cillian Murphy is wonderful, and very versatile - equally convincing as a transgender woman as a ruthless crime boss, and not one note as either. (Red Eye is just a very mediocre movie, btw, I wouldn't make any conclusions based on that. Every actor has those.) But he is indeed very slight in build for Bond, that might be an issue. Though then again, I don't remember thinking, "oh he's tiny" or something when watching Peaky Blinders. I could imagine it, yes, but... Plus he's 41 already, I think a new guy should preferably be younger when starting out. He's obviously much better than some suggestions, though, and I like him a lot as an actor.

    But if Craig is continuing anyway...
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    The question people here should be asking is "whom would Christopher Nolan pick?", and I don't think Hardy is the answer. He will be too old by the time the next era starts. How about Harry Styles? Forget his singing career for a second, and focus on his looks and his performance in DUNKIRK.

    He was fine as well, but again there was too little to make any conclusions regarding another, very different, and huge role a decade or more from now when he has grown up some. Obviously he's far too young now or anytime soon, and looks it. I don't have anything against the guy and I have no idea what he has done for people to bash him. I saw a couple of interviews for Dunkirk and he seemed like a nice young man in those. I haven't come across anything negative, but then I don't know much. As an actor, in 10 - 12 years... ? I haven't got the slightest clue.
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    Basically if Craig is back for one (or two) more then his successor could be almost anyone. We don't have a clue.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Tuulia wrote: »
    Cillian Murphy is wonderful, and very versatile - equally convincing as a transgender woman as a ruthless crime boss, and not one note as either. (Red Eye is just a very mediocre movie, btw, I wouldn't make any conclusions based on that. Every actor has those.) But he is indeed very slight in build for Bond, that might be an issue. Though then again, I don't remember thinking, "oh he's tiny" or something when watching Peaky Blinders. I could imagine it, yes, but... Plus he's 41 already, I think a new guy should preferably be younger when starting out. He's obviously much better than some suggestions, though, and I like him a lot as an actor.
    He's a very good actor, but he doesn't seem to have the presence of the big guns. DiCaprio and Hardy owned him in Inception, and Bale similarly in Batman Begins. He strikes me as a character actor rather than a lead.
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 11,425
    He looks odd as well. Not a Bond.

    Very good actor though. Always higjly watchable.
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Basically if Craig is back for one (or two) more then his successor could be almost anyone. We don't have a clue.

    Of course we don't. Even if he isn't we still don't, not really.
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    I think it was Mendes who said that if there's a new Bond Babs will take us by surprise with the casting.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I saw an old interview of Mendes at the SP premiere yesterday. He was asked about Craig and whether he would persuade him to return. Mendes said it was up to Craig, but also said something about the publicity and fame being a bit tough for him. He used the example of walking down the park or something along those lines, saying that he (Mendes) could do it, but Craig couldn't given 007 is always followed around.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,715
    Harry Styles is less than half the age of Daniel Craig. No way he's going to be the next Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Harry Styles is less than half the age of Daniel Craig. No way he's going to be the next Bond.
    Unless they are starting with a clean slate, which is probable and want to show Bond as a young agent
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Harry Styles is less than half the age of Daniel Craig. No way he's going to be the next Bond.
    Unless they are starting with a clean slate, which is probable and want to show Bond as a young agent
    Where's that glass or sharp object when you need one?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I'm sure there's something near. ;)
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