Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    If they're getting Charlize for Jamie Bond, at least keep the Bond Girls. ;)
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Right on, @ClarkDevlin!
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Is that Howie Ryder in the back?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    No that's Johnx.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I thought it was supposed to be Craig.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Is that Howie Ryder in the back?

    No it is 10 inch John comes alot

    I hope fleming would be proud of that title
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Article from London's Daily Telegraph (reprinted in stuff.co.nz).

    This one mirrors my own thoughts and opinion almost to a tee.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/95264995/007-why-its-time-for-the-sky-to-fall-on-craigs-bond
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Article from London's Daily Telegraph (reprinted in stuff.co.nz).

    This one mirrors my own thoughts and opinion almost to a tee.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/95264995/007-why-its-time-for-the-sky-to-fall-on-craigs-bond

    I have to agree with you here @bondjames. Ouch, though.
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    Ow indeed,but I can see their point.
  • I don't agree with all of that (I think he's been very good in his last two) but I do see where they're coming from, a lot of what was originally appealing about his Bond is gone. He does play it very differently now (still brilliantly though imo). It was this bit though that really struck a cord with me

    "For all their pros and cons, every one of the candidates who have been dangled to succeed Craig – Tom Hardy, Tom Hiddleston, Idris Elba, Michael Fassbender – has a massive advantage over him: novelty. The formula is getting stale"

    Agree 100% with that. By the time Bond 25 comes out he'll have been Bond for longer than Roger Moore. I know we unfortunately didn't get as many films from him as we should have done but his era still feels played out and finished imo. Isn't helped by the fact that SP felt like a finale.

    I think since we've got another four year gap on our hands, a new actor is definitely needed. Time for a fresh start. I don't want to have waited four years for a Spectre sequel and I say that as someone who loved that film and who's favourite of the novels is YOLT. So how is joe piblic who was disappointed in SP, thought Craig sleepwalked his way through it and has never read a Fleming in his life (so even the garden of death and all that can't win them over) going to feel? Especially after two years of speculation over who the next Bond will be. It'd just feel very anti climatic imo.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Whilst I can see the point of the article above. And it is one that has long been on my mind as to how things go forward. I'm hit and miss as far as Craig's tenure goes.
    Going into a fifth film, does he command enough clout and fan respect to pull off a fifth assignment. Connery and Moore both did, but audiences were different then. Brosnan was a mega Bond with TWINE and DAD despite the films that they delivered.
    Does Craig still have the appeal to be Bond to the general public. Not forgetting they're not die hard fans like we are.
    I think he could win them over. But at the same time, I don't think Joe public would care too much if they re-cast.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Why people keep on saying SP is a dissapointment is beyond me. The fact that they couldn't keep on budget doesn't mean it didn't perform well. it did. And most of the public will have forgotten about the film by now anyway. They'll be happy to go to a new film, especially if the critics are positive, and Craig is still one fine actor.
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    @CommanderRoss

    Very true, see LTK to Goldeneye, Die Another Day to Casino Royale, Quantum to Skyfall. Bond can survive a lesser entry and still remain extremely popular.

    (I don't see LTK or SP and lesser entries but clearly the public, at least critically, do).
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    Great article I thought

    connected to this, I was thinking about other actors (both inside and outside Bond) and how, really great performances are produced by actors who are 100% committed in every way. Even the very best of actors can show that their heart is not in it. Even though they maybe 100% professional, there is something about acting that requires 100% commitment and mental immersion in the role to produce the best performances. it maybe even subliminal in the actor wants to do their best but if they "have lost their mojo" for the role, then there is little that can be done.

    I'm not convinced that DC is really up for another performance. And how many of the previous Bond actors have produced their best performances at the end of their tenure? If DC does have to be persuaded, then IMHO, that answers the question. (He should be chomping at the bit to re-holster the PPK).

  • RC7RC7
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    Craig can do a fifth and make it a monster hit, likewise they could just as easily cock it up. The same applies to hiring a new actor. There isn't a correct answer for me at this point in time. I don't subscribe to the Craig 'Doomsday' scenario that is increasingly popular.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I think it is worth repeating: The only one I would prefer over Craig at the moment is Fassbender.
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    Technically because of Craig's age it should be time for a new Bond actor. I'm just not convinced by any of the possible successor so far.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig can do a fifth and make it a monster hit, likewise they could just as easily cock it up. The same applies to hiring a new actor. There isn't a correct answer for me at this point in time. I don't subscribe to the Craig 'Doomsday' scenario that is increasingly popular.

    I think the problem is that, yes Craig could deliver another good performance, but I feel like I'm just over it. Just because one particular film is great, doesn't mean you are able to watch it ad infinitum without ever getting bored. That's sort of how I feel about Craig. He could definitely deliver another great performance but I think Spectre should be his swan song. My opinion of course.
  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig can do a fifth and make it a monster hit, likewise they could just as easily cock it up. The same applies to hiring a new actor. There isn't a correct answer for me at this point in time. I don't subscribe to the Craig 'Doomsday' scenario that is increasingly popular.

    I think the problem is that, yes Craig could deliver another good performance, but I feel like I'm just over it. Just because one particular film is great, doesn't mean you are able to watch it ad infinitum without ever getting bored. That's sort of how I feel about Craig. He could definitely deliver another great performance but I think Spectre should be his swan song. My opinion of course.

    I understand people are over it.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig can do a fifth and make it a monster hit, likewise they could just as easily cock it up. The same applies to hiring a new actor. There isn't a correct answer for me at this point in time. I don't subscribe to the Craig 'Doomsday' scenario that is increasingly popular.

    I think the problem is that, yes Craig could deliver another good performance, but I feel like I'm just over it. Just because one particular film is great, doesn't mean you are able to watch it ad infinitum without ever getting bored. That's sort of how I feel about Craig. He could definitely deliver another great performance but I think Spectre should be his swan song. My opinion of course.

    Agreed...it ended as if it was the end of Craig's tenure and I think it should be....if we had less time to wait than over another 2 years then I might have been persuaded but i'm not so sure now.

    Or sure he would put in a 100% performance .
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    If these were the good old days, Daniel could be starting filming his seventh around now.
  • RC7RC7
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    Craig always puts in 100%.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig always puts in 100%.

    So did Connery before YOLT.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    How about an animated Bond set in the 50's, voiced by Toby Stephens?
    barryt007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig always puts in 100%.

    So did Connery before YOLT.

    I have never got the sense that he was in anyway coasting through YOLT, DAF on the other hand...
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    How about an animated Bond set in the 50's, voiced by Toby Stephens?
    barryt007 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig always puts in 100%.

    So did Connery before YOLT.

    I have never got the sense that he was in anyway coasting through YOLT, DAF on the other hand...

    Later on you could see inklings of it in his facial expressions and he didn't look the fittest during the whole production.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    patb wrote: »
    Great article I thought

    connected to this, I was thinking about other actors (both inside and outside Bond) and how, really great performances are produced by actors who are 100% committed in every way. Even the very best of actors can show that their heart is not in it. Even though they maybe 100% professional, there is something about acting that requires 100% commitment and mental immersion in the role to produce the best performances. it maybe even subliminal in the actor wants to do their best but if they "have lost their mojo" for the role, then there is little that can be done.

    I'm not convinced that DC is really up for another performance. And how many of the previous Bond actors have produced their best performances at the end of their tenure? If DC does have to be persuaded, then IMHO, that answers the question. (He should be chomping at the bit to re-holster the PPK).
    Fully agreed with you. One has to embrace everything about the character completely, or else ignore it. A half assed embrace will be felt by members of the audience.
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Craig can do a fifth and make it a monster hit, likewise they could just as easily cock it up. The same applies to hiring a new actor. There isn't a correct answer for me at this point in time. I don't subscribe to the Craig 'Doomsday' scenario that is increasingly popular.

    I think the problem is that, yes Craig could deliver another good performance, but I feel like I'm just over it. Just because one particular film is great, doesn't mean you are able to watch it ad infinitum without ever getting bored. That's sort of how I feel about Craig. He could definitely deliver another great performance but I think Spectre should be his swan song. My opinion of course.

    I understand people are over it.
    I'm sure he can deliver a reasonable performance (he's an excellent actor), but the aura's gone as far as I'm concerned. That je ne sais quoi which he had when he was new to the role. It was fresh. It was different. 14-15 years (time since his announcement to B25's release in most markets) is a hell of a long time to be Bond.

    I can see myself standing in for Mallory in a particular apropos exchange:

    ME: "There's no shame in saying you've lost a step. The only shame would be not admitting it until it's too late."
    Craig: "Hire me or fire me. It's entirely up to you."
    BABS: "If he says he's ready, he's ready."
    ME: "Perhaps you can't see it, or maybe you won't."
    BABS: "What exactly are you implying?"
    ME: "You're sentimental about him."

    What we don't want to be saying 2 years from now is the following:
    "Mommy was very bad!"
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    This just in :

    Halle Berry: James Bond should be a man .

    Halle Berry doesn't think there should ever be a female James Bond.

    The 50-year-old former Bond girl has joined the debate about casting a woman in the role of the iconic British spy but, for her, the character is "steeped in history" and should always be played by a man.

    Speaking to 'Entertainment Tonight', Berry said: "I want women to be tough but I don't know if Bond should be a woman. I mean, that series is steeped in history, you know from Ian Fleming's stories. I don't think you can change Bond to a woman. We can create a new Bond character that's a woman, and give her a new name, based on that theory, but I don't know if Bond should be a woman."

    Berry played starred as NSA agent Giacinta 'Jinx' Johnson alongside 007 Pierce Brosnan in the 2002 Bond movie 'Die Another Day' and appeared in one of the most memorable Bond girl scenes when she emerged from the sea in an orange two-piece bikini complete with a white belt and knife. The scene was a homage to the white bikini Ursula Andress wore as Honey Ryder in the 1962 James Bond film 'Dr. No', a swimsuit so iconic it has its own Wikipedia page.

    Her comments come after Chris Hemsworth claimed Charlize Theron would be the ideal candidate to replace Daniel Craig as Bond following her performance in new American spy thriller 'Atomic Blonde'.

    But while Charlize appreciates the compliment, she is less than convinced about the idea and laughed off his statement.

    The Oscar-winning star joked: "Chris, so, you got that cheque I sent you? Thanks, dude. I got your back."

    Charlize, 41, subsequently addressed the idea in a more serious tone, suggesting it's not something she'd ever previously considered.

    She said: "It's so insanely generous and nice [to be mentioned]. But I don't even know what to do with that. That's really sweet."

    Theron said taking the role of Bond would be "cray cray", adding: "Daniel, you got the job. I am not going to take that job away from you."

    Hemsworth - who starred with Theron in 'Snow White and the Huntsman' - had originally said: "She's smart as hell. She's physically able. I worked with her on 'Snow White and the Huntsman'. Watching her in those fight scenes, doing it in high heels, by the way, and an eight foot long gown was even more impressive."
  • Posts: 19,339
    This just in :

    Halle Berry: James Bond should be a man .

    Halle Berry doesn't think there should ever be a female James Bond.

    The 50-year-old former Bond girl has joined the debate about casting a woman in the role of the iconic British spy but, for her, the character is "steeped in history" and should always be played by a man.

    Speaking to 'Entertainment Tonight', Berry said: "I want women to be tough but I don't know if Bond should be a woman. I mean, that series is steeped in history, you know from Ian Fleming's stories. I don't think you can change Bond to a woman. We can create a new Bond character that's a woman, and give her a new name, based on that theory, but I don't know if Bond should be a woman."

    Berry played starred as NSA agent Giacinta 'Jinx' Johnson alongside 007 Pierce Brosnan in the 2002 Bond movie 'Die Another Day' and appeared in one of the most memorable Bond girl scenes when she emerged from the sea in an orange two-piece bikini complete with a white belt and knife. The scene was a homage to the white bikini Ursula Andress wore as Honey Ryder in the 1962 James Bond film 'Dr. No', a swimsuit so iconic it has its own Wikipedia page.

    Her comments come after Chris Hemsworth claimed Charlize Theron would be the ideal candidate to replace Daniel Craig as Bond following her performance in new American spy thriller 'Atomic Blonde'.

    But while Charlize appreciates the compliment, she is less than convinced about the idea and laughed off his statement.

    The Oscar-winning star joked: "Chris, so, you got that cheque I sent you? Thanks, dude. I got your back."

    Charlize, 41, subsequently addressed the idea in a more serious tone, suggesting it's not something she'd ever previously considered.

    She said: "It's so insanely generous and nice [to be mentioned]. But I don't even know what to do with that. That's really sweet."

    Theron said taking the role of Bond would be "cray cray", adding: "Daniel, you got the job. I am not going to take that job away from you."

    Hemsworth - who starred with Theron in 'Snow White and the Huntsman' - had originally said: "She's smart as hell. She's physically able. I worked with her on 'Snow White and the Huntsman'. Watching her in those fight scenes, doing it in high heels, by the way, and an eight foot long gown was even more impressive."
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    kudos to her.
    Smart woman

  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    #ImWithHalle

    Also, what is "cray cray"?

    giphy.webp
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