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...with a brief escape in the mid 90s where he helped thwart a chemical attack on San Francisco. ;)
And stole $7 Billion with the help of an attractive insurance investigator with a Welsh-twanged accent.
Eon didn't pay all that money not to use Blofeld and Spectre liberally now. They've been trying to do just that repeatedly since 1971. (TSWLM, OP, CR, to name three.)
Most people here seem to hate the "code name" theory. So do I.
And I would be happy to see blofeld return in the future. Let me put it this way. If waltz is the villain in bond25, my interest in the film will drop from high to literally zero. Waltz could have made a great blofeld, but as far as im concerned his character in sp was laughable/ irredeemable. I actually can say that charles gray’s incarnation is better. Only a few scenes in sp are watchable imo (opening tracking shot, hinx’s introduction, train fight, a few others).
So let me get this straight. You want them to:
A) Make the code name theory real
and
B) Have ConneryBond’s final fate be that he wound up in prison.
https://imgur.com/gallery/ocrk9o3
Too many dangling threads!
@jake24 I completely agree with you! I doubt fukunaga will make B25 a direct sequel anyway I also think Brexit will in some shape or form play a role.
Cary, quote, wants to finish Daniel's 007 story in an arc. Meaning, it will be continuous to all the other previous films. That's why it made total sense to bring Lea back. From the casting leaks we've received in the Boyle era as well as now the Cary era, they're looking to bring more estrogen in (yes!), thus the idea to have a younger female 00 protege. SO the FALLOUT idea is not that far off. I agree, that Bond is a loner and usually better off alone. But, honestly, this franchise needs more estrogen to have continuous commercial success in the future. Playing the endless guy seduces helpless dumb girl story just doesn't work anymore (#metoo). An honest love story for each episode would get boring and cheap. So adding another strong female team member is not a bad idea imo. Just think about it, Bond already received help from Moneypenny here and there (Istanbul ?, Macau) and it worked well. It still was all about Bond at the end of the day. Just how it was with Ethan in Fallout. But adding another dimension of people to identify with as well as personal struggle just keep things edgy and interesting. Everyone LOVES Casino Royale (my personal favorite), why? Because it's sexy, action-packed, engaging, relatable, human, just a very good story that happens to be super entertaining.
So my guess:
1) Madeleine will be abducted by a male villain and will need to be saved. Bond will receive help from a female young 00 protege, who might be reminding him of Vesper (Fallout esque) relive a Vesper scenario where he has to choose between love and rationale, choose love. He'll die.
OR
2) Madeleine will turn villain, work with another grand male villain. Bond will realize he never truly really loved her all along (please!). He will be teamed up with his younger 00 proteges to bring her down. He will have to choose in a life or death situation between saving the younger protege (who will remind him of himself and/or of Vesper) and will die to save her.
My two cents. Spend it well ;)
Great reasoning and predictions! Tomorrow's Thursday, maybe Baz will have some news!
If done right, it could work. For a long time, I have floated the idea that MI6 had young Bond in its sights and purposely recruited and trained him due to his relationship with Oberhauser. M might have alluded to this in SF, when she says, "Orphans always did make the best agents." In SP, Bond says, when Madeleine asks why does his job, "I never really had a choice." Hmmm.
This would make the Blofeld-Bond connection far less coincidental and a lot easier to swallow.
I guess so if done properly as @jake24 said above it's been 4 years and characters must have aged especially bond's. I am guessing a more Logan like treatment.
Except this is exactly what they must do if bond25 is to be a good movie. Ignore it completely. Pretend that the abomination that is spectre does not exist. Don’t care about what inconsistencies they will have to tolerate- the film only has a chance of being good if it is independent. All ends justify themeans of making this an independent bond film. Despite the news of lea’s return, I still believe that eon/ cary will take the only rational course. Any news of returning characters (other than wright’s felix, who I would like to see return) will therefore catch me by complete suprise.
M speaking to Bond: “You remember your old friend Franz Oberhauser who claimed to be the international terrorist mastermind Erst Stavro Blofeld? The man who eluded even being photographed by us for years suddenly coming out in the open seemed strange to me. Well considering he’s still stuck behind bars and we have a solid lead that Blofeld’s latest plan is well underway, I’m rather convinced he was lying about his identity. The real question is, why? Did the real Blofeld put him up to it, or did Oberhauser just decide one day to assume his name? I’m sending you to [insert location] to investigate [insert plot device] that we believe has connections to Blofeld and Spectre. And Bond, while I do wish that happier circumstances had led to your return, I’m glad to have you back.”
Cut to Bond’s flat. We see Swann finishing up packing and moving out. There’s some curt exchange between them, with obvious hurt feelings underlying. Perhaps they were engaged. She leaves after saying some poignant final word to which Bond perhaps responds with an equally poignant quip. End of Swann.
Or we can just skip all of that.
Cary, at least Cary Fukunaga, did not say he wants to finish Daniel´s 007 Story in an arc. He was quoted to intend to continue the character arc that started with CR. That is something entirely different.
There is no endless guy seduces helpless dumb Girl Story, because there hardly ever were any helpless dumb Girls in Bond films, it´s a myth created by Marketing, and in most of the cases Bond does not unilaterally seduce the Girl but respond to a sense of bilateral attraction.
Bond also received a lot of help from MP in the 60s and 70s, without MP gallivanting around the planet, it worked even better than what she did recently.
Personal struggle on a private Level is in the end merely a lame excuse for not coming up with a decent enough Story for Bond´s professional Level. Bond struggling with the villains is what really keeps Things edgy and interesting.
But in the end what really matters is the execution. We´ve had so many Bond films with flat stories or full of plot holes that nevertheless were highly entertaining.
Story and execution have to fit together. Then everything is possible.
Much more interesting than that melodrama would be a new, female villain.
Amen.
I love Hoyte’s cinematography – it has glamour, opulence and makes excellent use of shadows and darkness.
The production values of both Sam Mendes’s films get an A+
My apathy for Spectre really stems from both its overly ambitious nature and its half-baked execution. It’s trying to be an earnest continuation on the more sombre SF, but simultaneously wants to be frivolous and frothy. Which makes for an uncomfortable tonal execution.
The truth is the film needed a rewrite to streamline the ideas and focus solely on Bond – akin to CR. If you focus on character and get rid of the extraneous nonsense, you can make a stronger film. CR works – not because it’s a noisy action film – but because you care about the people. It’s the central thing that distinguishes a character from someone like Madeleine Swann to Vesper Lynd.
The best example of this was the amazing train fight (probably the film's best scene) what's this incredible sequence followed by? The weirdest love scene since AVTAK, I remember being in the cinema and thinking that scene wasn't given enough time to sink in, like in CR ,after the bathroom fight you see Bond breathing heavy after his first kill. Then we know as an audience that Bond was put through his paces and we appreciate how tough the battle was, without throwing a punch ourselves. An example of Spectre feeling rushed.
Anyway back to Shatterhand, I mean Bond 25
I hope whatever way they bring Swann back it's more creative then redoing OHMSS. We know from the leaked scripts they planned "all the time in the world" to be the last line, which could be a give away as to were Purvis and Wade were planning to take Bond 25 originally. I'm still holding out hope that Swann is villainous, after all she is Mr White's daughter.
As for the female MI6 agent aspect, (hate to say this) I'd hope that would be like MI3, in that it's not another Eve character, and the agent is there to lead Bond to the villain and possibly dies to up the stakes. Although I doubt this will be done better than in MI3 because that was one of the best aspects of that film
Apologies for the long post guys